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Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God??? -
02-24-2013, 01:32 AM
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So to summarize..you follow the KJV Bible because you believe it is the most accurate available translation of the Bible from Hebrew texts?
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The KJV1611 has been accepted as the most accurate version ever since it was released in 1611. Why do you hate Jesus so much? Do you enjoy being an online bigot?
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Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God??? -
02-24-2013, 02:19 AM
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The King James Bible is MISTRANSLATED. John 1:1 should read, In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.
The Greek language doesn't have a definite article distinguishing a and the. However, we can know get a glimpse at what the earliest Witnesses of Jehovah believed from the 3rd century translation of the Bible into the Coptic language. Coptic does have definite articles, and it uses "the Word was a god". There is historical precedent for this!
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Koine Greek did have a definite article, equivalent to English the, but no indefinite article, nothing equivalent to English a/ an. Who cares how Coptic manuscripts translate John 1:1? The KJV translates it the right way.
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When he "resurrected" he returned to His SPIRITUAL form, not a human body.
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If he didn't have a human body, how could Thomas have touched His wounds (Jn 20:27-28)?
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[COLOR=Black]And all this nonsense you people go on about, the end of the world, our souls going to heaven when we die. Just WHAT are you going on about and WHERE is it in the Bible. The Bible says the world will NEVER end!
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The world will be destroyed with fire.
2 Pet 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
2 Pet 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
After this world is destroyed, we will get a new heaven and a new earth.
Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
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When we die the first time, we are dead, that's it. Jesus Himself said death is like sleep.
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Really? Paul seemed to think that if he died, he would go to be with Christ, which he described as far better than living in the flesh.
Phil 1:21-24
21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.
22 But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not.
23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better:
24 Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you.
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Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God??? -
02-24-2013, 04:00 AM
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So to summarize..you follow the KJV Bible because you believe it is the most accurate available translation of the Bible from Hebrew texts?
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The King James Authorized Version ©1611 is not only as good as the original Greek and Hebrew, it is better!
There are three "translations" spoken of in the Bible. In all three cases, the translation referred to is better than the original. Since we accept the Bible as our final authority in all matters of faith and practice, the Bible's "practice" will have more authority than any "mere human" opinion.
The first "translation" found in Scripture is found in II Samuel 3:7-10:
And Saul had a concubine, whose name was Rizpah, the daughter of Aiah: and Ishbosheth said to Abner, Wherefore hast thou gone in unto my father's concubine? Then was Abner very wroth for the words of Ishbosheth, and said, Am I a dog's head, which against Judah do shew kindness this day unto the house of Saul thy father, to his brethren, and to his friends, and have not delivered thee into the hand of David, that thou chargest me to day with a fault concerning this woman?
So do God to Abner, and more also, except, as the LORD hath sworn to David, even so I do to him;
To translate the kingdom from the house of Saul, and to set up the throne of David over Israel and over Judah, from Dan even to Beersheba.
After the death of King Saul in I Samuel 31, Abner, who had been the captain of Saul's army installed Ishbosheth as King instead of David ( II Samuel 12:8,9). Later Ishbosheth and Abner had a falling out. Abner, in anger, announces to Ishbosheth that he is going to "translate" the Kingdom of Israel from Ishbosheth to David.
It is obvious by Abner's statement of II Samuel 3:9 that the LORD wanted David to be king over all twelve tribes of Israel. Therefore, the "translation" of the kingdom of Israel to David was BETTER than the "original" state which has a split kingdom with David rightly ruling over one portion and Ishbosheth wrongly ruling over the other section.
The second "translation" found in Scripture is found in Colossians 1:13:
Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
Here the "translation" spoken of is the conversion of a lost sinner to a new life in Jesus Christ. No one in their right mind could even pretend that this translation is not a massive improvement over the "original" condition.
The third "translation" found in Scripture is found in Hebrews 11:5:
By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
The word "translate" only appears five times in scripture. Once in II Samuel, once in Colossians and the remaining three times here in Hebrews 11:5.
A Christian with even a shallow knowledge of the Bible is familiar with the story of Enoch from Genesis 5. Enoch walked with God and is known to have pleased God. He was a prophet ( Judges 14) and a man of faith. God saw fit to physically take Enoch to Heaven so that he would not have to experience death. This individual action is a miniature version of what Christians call "The Rapture," mentioned in I Corinthians 15, I Thessalonians 4, Titus 2 and various other places in the Bible. Since the word "Rapture" appears nowhere in Scripture, a more proper name for this future occurrence might be "The Blessed Hope" ( Titus) or "The Catching Up" ( I Thessalonians) of "Our Translation" ( Hebrews).
It is obvious that Enoch's translation was an improvement over his original condition.
Thus we see that every "translation" in our final authority on all matters is an improvement over the original.
If you are a simple Bible believer you will have no trouble accepting this. If you worship education or just hate to be wrong, you will reject this Bible Fact as easily as you have rejected every Bible Fact that you couldn't agree with.
Now which will you follow son, the Bible or men?
II Thessalonians 1:7-9
And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power
The man who is being progressively sanctified will inescapably sanctify his home, school, politics, economics, science, and all things else by understanding and interpreting all things in terms of the Word of God and by bringing all things under the Dominion of Christ the King. -R.J. Rushdoony
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Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God??? -
02-24-2013, 05:20 AM
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As it happens I have a "new world" Greek testament open now. Strange they should call it New World if they think this one's never-ending.
Mr Pendergast referred to John 1 and it does tell us quite a lot about Jesus. He is God the Creator, He is the Word of instruction, the Logos of Accountability and is even referred to as being what we call Light.
WARNING I am going to quote from the New World 1942 edition. But first I need to edit my friends list .. .. .. .. .. ..
OK. John chapter 1 verse 4
..[NW Greek text, unaccented]
..[corrupt NW English rendition]
..John 1:4 In it was Life; and the LIFE was the LIGHT of MEN.
By their own standard then this "Life" is part of some depersonalised, mechanistic it. The "Light" no more than electromagnetic radiation we hear so much about from physics and oncology. According to these bizarre heresies Jesus brings melanoma, leukemia and death. Perhaps Jesus does not include the UV spectrum? Well if it is what men call light (and that text is reproduced exactly as in my NW, this is what they are saying) and light is electromagnetism then it [Jesus] must include all wavelengths, ultra-violet, infra-red, x-rays, ULF and yes I will back that up with a source [KJV, I think we've had enough NW for now]:
I John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. KJV
NOT and in it is no darkness at all except at 10nm to 400nm so it does include ultra-violet their Jesus would give you cancer that is not the Jesus I know and love.
But there is more. Wave/particle duality in this warped reality admits the dual nature of Jesus. I must be mad to talk like this but physicists declare their "light" [the Logos of John 1] is at once two things BUT ne'er the twain shall meet. Indeterminacy determines that if they measure location they cannot measure wavelength and vice versa. This flies in the face of sound doctrine, the omnipresence of God, the veracity of His Inerrant Word and the ministry of The Holy Spirit. Upon their own petard these fools are hoist.
That is what happens when you depersonalise God, even His Belovèd Son, into the it of NW abomination. That is how we know The Trinity is real. That is how we know all Jehovah's Witnesses are going to hell.
Here is God's English rendition of the passage:
JOHN 1
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
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Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God??? -
02-24-2013, 05:41 AM
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Koine Greek did have a definite article, equivalent to English the, but no indefinite article, nothing equivalent to English a/ an. Who cares how Coptic manuscripts translate John 1:1? The KJV translates it the right way.
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I'm not clicking on some link to something that's just full of heresy most likely!
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If he didn't have a human body, how could Thomas have touched His wounds (Jn 20:27-28)?
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That was for the benefit of Thomas, who had said He wouldn't believe until He saw and felt the wounds himself. In all other appearances Jesus made, nobody noticed gaping wounds in his hands that would have given away his true identity right away. Obviously, Jesus is able to change what his new spiritual body looks like.
(John 21:4) But when the morning was now come, Jesus stood on the shore: but the disciples knew not that it was Jesus.
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The world will be destroyed with fire.
2 Pet 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
2 Pet 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
After this world is destroyed, we will get a new heaven and a new earth.
Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
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From the Watchtower I read, "The Bible also uses the term “day of judgment” to refer to the event that will bring the present system of things to its end. This day of judgment will come as suddenly as the Flood of Noah’s day, which swept away an entire wicked generation. Happily, the imminent destruction of “ungodly men” will clear the way for a new earthly society in which “righteousness is to dwell.”"
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Really? Paul seemed to think that if he died, he would go to be with Christ, which he described as far better than living in the flesh.
Phil 1:21-24
21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.
22 But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not.
23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better:
24 Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you.
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You can't just pull on quote of out context. Paul says he would like to leave the world, yes. But it's not saying when he dies his spirit will immediately go to heaven to be with Jesus.
Psalm 146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.
When he die, we have no more consciousness. On the last day however, God will resurrect us here on earth.
John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
Acts 24:15 there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.
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Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God??? -
02-24-2013, 06:39 AM
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So is Jesus? Clearly he is a SPIRITUAL BEING who has existed with God in heaven since the beginning of time. When he "resurrected" he returned to His SPIRITUAL form, not a human body.
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The Bible teaches that Jesus was bodily resurrected. If He wasn't resurrected, neither will we be.
1 Cor 15:12-22
12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
If you reject the physical resurrection of Jesus, you are still in your sins and your faith is futile. Our resurrected bodies we be like Jesus' resurrected body.
1 Jn 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
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Obviously, Jesus is able to change what his new spiritual body looks like.
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You seem to be contradicting yourself here.
The best way to get through a crisis of faith is to ignore your doubts. Don't feed them, don't think about them, just keep on believing.
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02-24-2013, 08:00 AM
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a perfect earth for the faithful to live on forever.
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The faithful. All 144,000 of them. Of all the people who have ever lived, only that many will inherit your perfect earth according to your kooky cult.
Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.
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Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God??? -
02-24-2013, 11:49 AM
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The faithful. All 144,000 of them. Of all the people who have ever lived, only that many will inherit your perfect earth according to your kooky cult.
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You know, if you are going to laugh at something, you should at least know what it is you are laughing about. 144,000 elected people will be allowed into HEAVEN to rule alongside Jesus. However, the earth itself will continue to exist, in a perfect form with no more death, and will be inherited by the rest of the faithful, which could number into the millions as far as we know.
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Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God??? -
02-24-2013, 11:58 AM
Did anyone mention that the 144,000 are Jews?
What happens to this earth, I presume that this is the "old" earth since there is still sea?
Revelation 21
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
King James Authorized Version
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Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God??? -
02-24-2013, 08:03 PM
Deuteronomy 4:40 That thou mayest prolong thy days upon the earth, which the Lord thy God giveth thee for ever.
Psalm 78:69 The earth which he hath established for ever.
Psalm 104:5 Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be
removed for ever.
Ecclessiastes 1:4 One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.
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02-24-2013, 08:14 PM
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You know, if you are going to laugh at something, you should at least know what it is you are laughing about. 144,000 elected people will be allowed into HEAVEN to rule alongside Jesus. However, the earth itself will continue to exist, in a perfect form with no more death, and will be inherited by the rest of the faithful, which could number into the millions as far as we know.
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Really, I think you're over-thinking this, dear. Why would you want to compete for such a small chance of opportunity in such a tiny job market? The Holy Bible tells us that for True Christians™ (all of us), one of our first jobs will be to judge the angels (1 Corinthians 6:2-3). Afterwards, we, all True Christians™, will be rulers of all the earth (Revelation 5:10), but only if our names are in the book of life (Revelation 20:12; Revelation 20:15; Revelation 21:27). Don't you want your name in the Book of Life?
Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
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Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God??? -
02-24-2013, 08:30 PM
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The King James Authorized Version ©1611 is not only as good as the original Greek and Hebrew, it is better!
A Christian with even a shallow knowledge of the Bible is familiar with the story of Enoch from Genesis 5. Enoch walked with God and is known to have pleased God. He was a prophet ( Judges 14) and a man of faith. God saw fit to physically take Enoch to Heaven so that he would not have to experience death. This individual action is a miniature version of what Christians call "The Rapture," mentioned in I Corinthians 15, I Thessalonians 4, Titus 2 and various other places in the Bible. Since the word "Rapture" appears nowhere in Scripture, a more proper name for this future occurrence might be "The Blessed Hope" ( Titus) or "The Catching Up" ( I Thessalonians) of "Our Translation" ( Hebrews).
It is obvious that Enoch's translation was an improvement over his original condition.
Thus we see that every "translation" in our final authority on all matters is an improvement over the original.
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Everything you quoted was a translation, so how do you know it is actually what the original Bible says? Also, translations can't be improvements upon the original. They might be more agreeable to you, but they can't capture everything from the original language.
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If you are a simple Bible believer you will have no trouble accepting this. If you worship education or just hate to be wrong, you will reject this Bible Fact as easily as you have rejected every Bible Fact that you couldn't agree with.
Now which will you follow son, the Bible or men?
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You're following men who translated the Bible.
And education is useful.
1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23:Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
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02-24-2013, 08:41 PM
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You're following men who translated the Bible.
And education is useful.
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So, according to you any book that is translated to another language is not to be trusted? The international association of language translators is not going to be very pleased to hear about this.
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02-24-2013, 08:42 PM
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Everything you quoted was a translation, so how do you know it is actually what the original Bible says?
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Hey moron: I gave you the link to my Sermon on this very subject days ago. Didn't you study it? I have offered incontrovesial proof on how one can know which Bible version is the one TRUE Word of God. Read it HERE and shut up. Case closed. You're wrong, I'm right.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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02-24-2013, 09:28 PM
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Don't you want your name in the Book of Life?
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Yes, I do. And that is why I'm considering DENOUNCING you and everyone else in this church!
Matthew 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
1 Corinthians 8:5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus
James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well
Mark 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
John 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
John 17:20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Acts 7:55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
1 Corinthians 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
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Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God??? -
02-24-2013, 10:09 PM
Since Satan has turned you into a Jehovah Witless, how does those magic underwears feels?
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Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God??? -
02-24-2013, 10:15 PM
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God??? -
02-24-2013, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel
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Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God??? -
02-24-2013, 10:28 PM
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Well that's not very Christian of you.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: I'm having a crisis of faith! Is Jesus really God??? -
02-24-2013, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel
Well that's not very Christian of you.
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You know what is Christian? Shunning. Which is what I am being encouraged to do, to you. The meeting at the Kingdom Hall last night was quite informative.
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