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07-22-2010, 08:58 AM
As you are aware, Australia is in an election campaign. The Victorian Jewish community made a pollie apologise for saying that the education program would be a holocaust in a years time ....
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Jewish leader accepts Victorian politician's apology for holocaust reference
- By Engel Schmidl
- From: NewsCore
- July 22, 2010 4:21PM
A MEMBER of the Australian Jewish community in Victoria accepted an apology Thursday from a local politician who said the federal government's education scheme would be a holocaust in a years time.
Ballarat Hebrew Congregation honorary secretary Bernie Stone said the choice of words from Liberal candidate Mark Banwell, broadcast on a local television station, were unfortunate.
"He's obviously tried to look for a word with some clout, but he's chosen the wrong word", Mr Stone said.
Mr Stone said he could not speak for all Jewish people but, personally, he appreciated Mr Banwell's attempt to make amends.
In a statement, the politician apologised for any offence he may have caused.
"In describing it I used a most inappropriate characterisation. I apologise for doing so. It was not my intention to cause offence, but freely acknowledge I have done so," Mr Banwell said.
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Now, a bit of research (ie a quick google) tells us this.
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Holocaust was originally used in English for a "burnt offering," a "sacrifice completely consumed by fire" (Mark 12:33, "more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices" in the King James Version of the Bible, was translated by William Tyndale in 1526 as "a greater thing than all holocausts and sacrifices"). John Milton is the first English writer recorded as using it in the wider sense "complete destruction by fire," in the late 17th century, and succeeding centuries its modern application to "nuclear destruction" and "mass murder" - Bishop Ken, for instance, wrote in 1711 "Should general Flame this World consume ... An Holocaust for Fontal Sin," and Leitch Ritchie in 1833 refers to Louis VII making "a holocaust of thirteen hundred persons in a church." The specific application to the mass murder of the Jews by the Nazis during World War II was introduced by historians during the 1950s, probably as an equivalent to Hebrew ḥurban and shoah "catastrophe" (used in the same sense).
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And how glorious it is to see that the online encarta dictionary quoted the King James version of the bible and not an airy fairy interpretation of God's Holy Word.
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Re: Jews do not own the word "Holocaust" -
07-22-2010, 12:58 PM
I also have no problem using the word 'holocaust' to describe the Jewish practice of eating gentile infants.
Also, back in the 17th century, it was a common practice of the Jews to contaminate public water sources with cholera. I would describe the results of those epidemics as 'holocausts' too.
I would like to thank the Victorian Jews for reminding me to make this post.
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07-22-2010, 01:58 PM
Very well done, Sister Charli.
Greedy Joos have spent years trying to grab money off of people, and now they are trying to steal our words. I sometimes use the word "Holocaust" to describe fatal house fires, and I'm not going to stop just because it makes some Jesus killers unhappy.
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Re: Jews do not own the word "Holocaust" -
07-22-2010, 02:01 PM
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Very well done, Sister Charli.
Greedy Joos have spent years trying to grab money off of people, and now they are trying to steal our words. I sometimes use the word "Holocaust" to describe fatal house fires, and I'm not going to stop just because it makes some Jesus killers unhappy.
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I have a good mind to write a letter to this Mr Bernie Stone Jewboy and tell him to pull his head in.
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07-22-2010, 05:04 PM
As a True Christian™, I am not surprised that those greedy, filthy Jews would try to claim ownership over a word. How can someone own a word? Maybe if they were Saved® by the Blood of Jesus Christ, they wouldn't be so morally reprehensible? They need to put down their law books and open up the Word of God© instead.
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08-02-2010, 07:13 AM
...and negros don't own the word "niggardly"
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Re: Jews do not own the word "Holocaust" -
08-02-2010, 08:43 PM
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As you are aware, Australia is in an election campaign. The Victorian Jewish community made a pollie apologise for saying that the education program would be a holocaust in a years time ...
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There are still Victorian Jews around? Good grief, what does it take to kill those people off?
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08-02-2010, 09:52 PM
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Maybe we can trademark the word so we'll own it!!! We should call our joo lawyers right now....
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08-03-2010, 05:06 AM
Hmm I don't really dislike Jews, I've met a few that were nice enough, but it does make me angry when they use the Lord to secure money and power in society, which is against His very teachings (you can't serve God and Mammon) and is an expression of greed, cloaked in holiness. They are the Pharisees that Jesus spoke so profoundly against, I feel. Not all Jews are like that, but the ones that are, let me just say, I will not think many kindly thoughts of them while they are burning in the everlasting fires, for their trespasses against the Lord God, creator and ruler of the Universe and author of all holiness, and righteousness.
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Re: Jews do not own the word "Holocaust" -
08-04-2010, 07:53 PM
They allready own the banks and the media now they have their grasping jew claws all over the Holocaust.
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08-05-2010, 04:31 PM
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Hmm I don't really dislike Jews, I've met a few that were nice enough, but...
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Re: Jews do not own the word "Holocaust" -
08-05-2010, 05:34 PM
Having thought this matter over, I think there's a middle way that would keep everyone happy by allowing people to carry on using the word 'holocaust' in its original sense, while still recognising the historical uniqueness of the persecution that the Catholic Hitler inflicted on various groups including Christians and some Jews. All we need to do is tell those Jews that the word 'holocaust' is a part of the language and they cannot claim exclusive special rights over it, but if they feel the need for a specific word to describe the events which are alleged to have occurred in Germany in the 30s-40s, they can just use 'holohoax'.
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08-05-2010, 05:47 PM
Given the Jooish influence in Hollywood, maybe they could lay claim to the word "hollycaust" as a suitable compromise.
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Re: Jews do not own the word "Holocaust" -
08-06-2010, 07:30 AM
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I have a good mind to write a letter to this Mr Bernie Stone Jewboy and tell him to pull his head in.
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Yes, I feel similarly convicted Sister Charli, except my conviction is that he should pull his head OUT if you know what I mean.
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Re: Jews do not own the word "Holocaust" -
08-06-2010, 10:07 AM
Maori Party Co-Leader and MP in the New Zealand Government Mrs. Tariana Turia made the following speech at a Conference in Hamilton, New Zealand on Tuesday 29 August 2000:
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... I understand that much of the research done in this area has focussed on the trauma suffered by the Jewish survivors of the holocaust of World War Two. I also understand the same has been done with the Vietnam veterans.
What seems to not have received similar attention is the holocaust suffered by indigenous people including Maori as a result of colonial contact and behaviour.
The Waitangi Tribunal made such a reference in its Taranaki Report of 1996 and I recollect what appeared to be a "but our holocaust was worse than your holocaust" debate. A debate I must add, I do not wish to enter.
Psychologists, Emeritus Professor James and Professor Jane Ritchie likewise link colonisation with violence.
Native American Psychologist Eduardo Duran suggests in referring to Native Americans that the colonial oppression suffered by indigenous people inevitably wounds the soul.
He also says that for any effective therapy to take place the historical context of generations of oppression since colonial contact needs to be articulated, acknowledged and understood.
Professor Mason Durie identifies the onset of colonisation and the subsequent alienation and theft of the land as the beginning of Maori health issues that manifest themselves today. Issues, that have as a result of inter-generational systemic abuse, become culturally endemic.
Since first colonial contact, much effort has been invested in attempts at individualising Maori with the introduction of numerous assimilationist policies and laws to alienate Maori from their social structures which were linked to the guardianship and occupation of land.
A consequence of colonial oppression has been the internalisation by Maori of the images the oppressor has of them. It is for that reason that I found the negative portrayal of Maori whanau last week to be both spiritually and psychologically damaging.
I know the psychological consequences of the internalisation of negative images is for people to take for themselves the illusion of the oppressors' power while they are in a situation of helplessness and despair, a despair leading to self-hatred and for many, suicide.
The externalisation of the self-hatred on the other hand, is seen with the number of Maori who are convicted of crimes of violence and the very high number of Maori women and children who are the victims of violence.
The film 'Once Were Warriors' and the Keri Hulme novel, 'The Bone People' bring home all too graphically the extreme levels of violence which for many, is seen as culturally endemic behaviour, behaviour which they and the wider society in which they live, see as 'normal'.
The phenomenon of Post Colonial Traumatic Stress Disorder and its effects it appears are now culturally integrated in to the psyche and soul of Maori. It never used to be there. Indeed as Professor Anne Salmond has found, children were indulged and records of early contact show that violence towards children was uncommon. More uncommon than it was in Europe at the same period. A golden age for Maori children it would seem.
Maori tribal commentators and Treaty negotiators like Dr Hirini Mead of Te Runanga O Ngati Awa have alluded to the cumulative generational effects of trauma or as he put it 'damage' which has been passed down from the period of the Land Wars to current generations.
A question Dr Mead has posed was related to the amount of compensation required to repair the intergenerational damage to the people. Damage, the genesis of which resides in the nineteenth century.
The holocaust suffered by many Maori tribes during the Land Wars needs to be acknowledged. Only then will the healing for Maori occur...
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Re: Jews do not own the word "Holocaust" -
08-06-2010, 10:39 AM
It makes me mad the Jews claim the holocaust as theirs. Look at these stats I found.
Holocaust Victims
5,993,900 — Jews killed by Germany
16 million to 20 million — others killed by Germany (non Jews & Non Service Personal)
How many Jewish armies did we see fighting in WW11? The economic cost was very high. Have Jews given any payment to the countries that fought against Germany? They are quick to get life time Holocaust Victims social security payments from Germany.
Cost by some of the countries.
$288,000,000,000 — U.S.
$212,336,000,000 — Germany
$111,272,000,000 — France
$93,012,000,000 — Soviet Union
$49,786,000,000 — Britain
$41,272,000,000 — Japan
$1,600,000,000,000 — direct economic costs of WWII
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08-06-2010, 11:01 AM
Yes Lisa H, they most definitely whingeth too much.
AND! They do not recognise, adore and worship the Lord Jesus Christ as foretold about and prophesied concerning in their own sacred Hebrew texts.
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08-06-2010, 04:57 PM
Disgusting.
The matzo-munching, dreidle-spinning, greedy joos are an ugly blight on humanity. In addition to running the banks and Hollywood, they have their tentacles wrapped around the precious stone and stand-up comedy industries.
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Re: Jews do not own the word "Holocaust" -
08-06-2010, 05:14 PM
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I wonder whether the Moriori experienced the same degree of trauma being eaten by the Maori? Would the Moriori (if any were still alive) call their experience a holocaust? Probably.
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Re: Jews do not own the word "Holocaust" -
08-13-2010, 03:10 AM
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Holocaust Victims
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Almost 6 million? These are awfully liebral figures, Lisa. These figures come from fabricated Soviet documents primarily from Ilya Ehrenburg's "Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee" (though we know 'Jewish' and 'Anti-Fascist' contradict eachother), and are therefore unreliable. Does anyone know where I can find legit, non-liebral Holohoax figures?
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