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Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God? -
05-19-2014, 05:34 PM
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Genesis 1:26-27.
So, is it going to be a check, money order, or a wire transfer to my bank account?
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Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God? -
05-19-2014, 05:54 PM
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I'm not sure which part of my previous post you are referring to, but I'll assume you are talking about the first part.
Here is a small selection of verses which talk about the role of women:
Genesis 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
1st Corinthians 11:3-9
3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.
5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
1st Corinthians 14:34-35
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
1st Timothy 2:11-15
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
Ephesians 5:22-24
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
Colossians 3:18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord
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That's Funny becaus the bible contradicts and says marriage is a good and and a bad thing first in (GEN 2.18) "It is not good that the man should be alone", But later on in (1 Cor 7.1) "It is good for a man not to touch a women"and as far as womens roles in the bible.
Exodus 21:3-4 Says that if a male slave is given a wife by his master (regardless of how long they are wed, how much they love each other or if they have kids) he can not leave servanthood with his wife or children. The woman and children are merely property of the master and their personal happiness or sanctity of family doesn’t matter.
Exodus 21:7 God not only sanctions selling ones daughter into slavery, but he also gives out laws on how it should be done.
Exodus 21:10 God ordains men taking several wives and even sets up laws as to how multiple wives should be handled.
Leviticus 12:1-8 Explains that a woman has to be purified after giving birth because she is “unclean”. It goes on to say that birthing a male is cleaner then birthing a female, hence a mother must purify TWICE as long when having a daughter. This is BLATANT sexism from the point of birth. A woman is dirty simply for being a woman; this is obviously very biased and chauvinistic.
Leviticus 15:19-30 Explains that a woman having her menstruation must be avoided to the point of not even touching what she has touched. It is quite curious that women are punished for simply having a biological function that “God” claims to have created. What is so just about vilifying what you created?
Leviticus 18:19 Goes onto say that even LOOKING at a menstruating woman is wrong.
Leviticus 19:20 Says that if a man has sex with a slave or betrothed woman he must then “scourge” her. Scourging is a term for a severe flogging or whipping. I find it quite curious that the woman shall be punished to the point of a beating for such an occurrence, yet the man gets to go free for the deed.
Leviticus 21:9 Explains that unchaste daughters of priests must be burnt to death. What about his unchaste sons? Of course this isn’t even answered in the Torah, we are to assume yet again that men have the power to do as they wish and a woman must suffer the punishment for BOTH of them.
Leviticus 27:3-7 God places a dollar value on human life; with women worth less than men.
Numbers 1:2 Is the basis for the sexism that remains rampant today. In this verse Moses takes a poll of all the men who are able to fight in war, women aren’t even counted in the census. Apparently back then, just like today, us women are considered the weaker species and unable to battle. (Let’s not forget that during the time the Pentateuch was written women in Pagan cultures were FEARED and revered as the more powerful species. It is because of this patriarchal religion and it’s offshoots that we have been reduced to cowering sub-humans.)
Numbers 30:3-16 A woman can’t make a vow unless her husband allows it.
Numbers 31: 14-18 Moses tells his men to kill all the males, non-virginal women, elderly and children of the Midianite tribe. Of course, the virgin women are kept for raping. If you read later down in the scripture God states that the Jews can not even marry a Midianite woman (with exception to Moses). Hence these women who were captured were repeatedly raped and impregnated and they weren’t even allowed a marital status in which to protect them.
Deuteronomy 20:13-15 Kill all the men and boys in the cities that God “delivers into your hands,” but keep the women for raping.
Deuteronomy 21:11-14 If you see a pretty woman among the captives then just take her home and “go in unto her.”
Deuteronomy 22:5 Women that wear men’s clothing are an “abomination unto the Lord.”
Deuteronomy 22:13-22 Women, be sure to keep the tokens of your virginity. Otherwise the men of your city may stone you to death. This does not apply to men though, of course. What is interesting to note here is the actual wording, it says : “that if a man hateth his wife he may say she did not have the tokens of her virginity”. Since there is no way a woman can truly prove she had a hymen upon marriage the word rests on the husband and she can be disposed of simply when he tires of her.
Deuteronomy 22:23-24 is one of the most cruel and sexist passages of the Torah. It says that women who are raped and fail to “cry out loud” in a populated area are most likely enjoying the attack should be killed.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 A rapist must buy his victim from her father for 50 shekels. Is this supposed to be some type of retribution? What about the victim here, what if she doesn’t want to marry a pig who raped her? All that matters is her father receives payment for his “property”.
Deuteronomy 25:11-12 Says that we must cut off a woman’s hand
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Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God? -
05-19-2014, 06:07 PM
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Genesis 1:26-27.
So, is it going to be a check, money order, or a wire transfer to my bank account?
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Where is your scientific proof that a god created a man or fossils please show me i am on the edge of my seat to see the evidence.
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Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God? -
05-19-2014, 06:11 PM
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That's Funny becaus the bible contradicts and says marriage is a good and and a bad thing first in (GEN 2.18) "It is not good that the man should be alone", But later on in (1 Cor 7.1) "It is good for a man not to touch a women"and as far as womens roles in the bible.
Exodus 21:3-4 Says that if a male slave is given a wife by his master (regardless of how long they are wed, how much they love each other or if they have kids) he can not leave servanthood with his wife or children. The woman and children are merely property of the master and their personal happiness or sanctity of family doesn’t matter.
Exodus 21:7 God not only sanctions selling ones daughter into slavery, but he also gives out laws on how it should be done.
Exodus 21:10 God ordains men taking several wives and even sets up laws as to how multiple wives should be handled.
Leviticus 12:1-8 Explains that a woman has to be purified after giving birth because she is “unclean”. It goes on to say that birthing a male is cleaner then birthing a female, hence a mother must purify TWICE as long when having a daughter. This is BLATANT sexism from the point of birth. A woman is dirty simply for being a woman; this is obviously very biased and chauvinistic.
Leviticus 15:19-30 Explains that a woman having her menstruation must be avoided to the point of not even touching what she has touched. It is quite curious that women are punished for simply having a biological function that “God” claims to have created. What is so just about vilifying what you created?
Leviticus 18:19 Goes onto say that even LOOKING at a menstruating woman is wrong.
Leviticus 19:20 Says that if a man has sex with a slave or betrothed woman he must then “scourge” her. Scourging is a term for a severe flogging or whipping. I find it quite curious that the woman shall be punished to the point of a beating for such an occurrence, yet the man gets to go free for the deed.
Leviticus 21:9 Explains that unchaste daughters of priests must be burnt to death. What about his unchaste sons? Of course this isn’t even answered in the Torah, we are to assume yet again that men have the power to do as they wish and a woman must suffer the punishment for BOTH of them.
Leviticus 27:3-7 God places a dollar value on human life; with women worth less than men.
Numbers 1:2 Is the basis for the sexism that remains rampant today. In this verse Moses takes a poll of all the men who are able to fight in war, women aren’t even counted in the census. Apparently back then, just like today, us women are considered the weaker species and unable to battle. (Let’s not forget that during the time the Pentateuch was written women in Pagan cultures were FEARED and revered as the more powerful species. It is because of this patriarchal religion and it’s offshoots that we have been reduced to cowering sub-humans.)
Numbers 30:3-16 A woman can’t make a vow unless her husband allows it.
Numbers 31: 14-18 Moses tells his men to kill all the males, non-virginal women, elderly and children of the Midianite tribe. Of course, the virgin women are kept for raping. If you read later down in the scripture God states that the Jews can not even marry a Midianite woman (with exception to Moses). Hence these women who were captured were repeatedly raped and impregnated and they weren’t even allowed a marital status in which to protect them.
Deuteronomy 20:13-15 Kill all the men and boys in the cities that God “delivers into your hands,” but keep the women for raping.
Deuteronomy 21:11-14 If you see a pretty woman among the captives then just take her home and “go in unto her.”
Deuteronomy 22:5 Women that wear men’s clothing are an “abomination unto the Lord.”
Deuteronomy 22:13-22 Women, be sure to keep the tokens of your virginity. Otherwise the men of your city may stone you to death. This does not apply to men though, of course. What is interesting to note here is the actual wording, it says : “that if a man hateth his wife he may say she did not have the tokens of her virginity”. Since there is no way a woman can truly prove she had a hymen upon marriage the word rests on the husband and she can be disposed of simply when he tires of her.
Deuteronomy 22:23-24 is one of the most cruel and sexist passages of the Torah. It says that women who are raped and fail to “cry out loud” in a populated area are most likely enjoying the attack should be killed.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 A rapist must buy his victim from her father for 50 shekels. Is this supposed to be some type of retribution? What about the victim here, what if she doesn’t want to marry a pig who raped her? All that matters is her father receives payment for his “property”.
Deuteronomy 25:11-12 Says that we must cut off a woman’s hand
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Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God? -
05-19-2014, 06:18 PM
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You want Sister Basilissa to send the evidence to you, so you can can claim the million dollars?
2 Timothy 3:16
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05-19-2014, 06:34 PM
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So - What is it you do not understand?
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I understand alot i am trying to prove a point that god was both man and woman and created both but yet in a sexist way is unjust to woman's.
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05-19-2014, 06:40 PM
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You want Sister Basilissa to send the evidence to you, so you can can claim the million dollars?
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Not all i am just saying i am unconvinced of a big man in the sky and just ask for proof.
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Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God? -
05-19-2014, 06:47 PM
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I see from your profile that you describe yourself as follows
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Atheist, Blogger,Christians Worse Nigmare (sic)
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Proving You Wrong !!!
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Perhaps you would like to keep your word and make a start on that?
Proverbs 12:22 Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight.
2 Timothy 3:16
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Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God? -
05-19-2014, 06:48 PM
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Too bad. That's not part of the deal. You believe, you go to Heaven. If proof was offered, everyone would have knowledge, and faith (belief without proof) would be useless.
If you have opposite proof, please present it now, or stop pretending you're better than these people because you don't believe things without proof.
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Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God? -
05-19-2014, 06:55 PM
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I understand alot i am trying to prove a point that god was both man and woman and created both but yet in a sexist way is unjust to woman's.
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Your sick thoughs are disgusting and shows that Satan is in You now, he is a professional at falsifying truth! 2 Corinthians 11:13-15
Read bible! And leave all that crap, your "intelligence"
And here is to you something to read:
1 Corinthians 11
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05-19-2014, 06:59 PM
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Too bad. That's not part of the deal. You believe, you go to Heaven. If proof was offered, everyone would have knowledge, and faith (believe without proof) would be useless.
If you have opposite proof, please present it now, or stop pretending you're better than these people because you don't believe things without proof.
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I am not better then anyone and have not said i am i am just a skeptic and without evidence it is hard to believe in nothing.
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05-19-2014, 07:04 PM
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I see from your profile that you describe yourself as followsPerhaps you would like to keep your word and make a start on that?
Proverbs 12:22 Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight.
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I have been doing it for awhile now why don't you do your part and prove me wrong?
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Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God? -
05-19-2014, 07:12 PM
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Pointless. Randi is an atheopath and homosexual enabler. He should have been dead decades ago but obviously sold his soul to the devil in hopes of irritating decent, moral Christians. Because he is so bitter and angry, he cannot see the Truth staring right at him. I wouldn't take his money if I was living on the street. When I am in Heaven and I look down and see him in Hell, I won't even offer a single drop of water to quench his horrifying thirst, I won't drop down a single ounce of ointment to soothe his burns. I know that with his hatred of all things good and decent, he'd spit that drop of water up into an aborted fetus' eye. He'd take that ounce of ointment and shove it in his anus so the barbed taliwacker of Satan's minions provide a particular sensation when the balm enters the torn lining of his already exhausted rectum. You can keep his money. As for me and my family, we will serve the LORD.
Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
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Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God? -
05-19-2014, 07:16 PM
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Your sick thoughs are disgusting and shows that Satan is in You now, he is a professional at falsifying truth! 2 Corinthians 11:13-15
Read bible! And leave all that crap, your "intelligence"
And here is to you something to read:
1 Corinthians 11
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05-19-2014, 07:21 PM
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Pointless. Randi is an atheopath and homosexual enabler. He should have been dead decades ago but obviously sold his soul to the devil in hopes of irritating decent, moral Christians. Because he is so bitter and angry, he cannot see the Truth staring right at him. I wouldn't take his money if I was living on the street. When I am in Heaven and I look down and see him in Hell, I won't even offer a single drop of water to quench his horrifying thirst, I won't drop down a single ounce of ointment to soothe his burns. I know that with his hatred of all things good and decent, he'd spit that drop of water up into an aborted fetus' eye. He'd take that ounce of ointment and shove it in his anus so the barbed taliwacker of Satan's minions provide a particular sensation when the balm enters the torn lining of his already exhausted rectum. You can keep his money. As for me and my family, we will serve the LORD.
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05-19-2014, 07:35 PM
Flunky, dear, with friends as dumb as you, Randi really doesn't need enemies, does he?
You insist that you have been making some sort of argument. I have now read all your posts and have yet to see anything which could be described as a point, let alone an argument.
A contradiction (and please, I beg you, learn to spell that word) is not an argument.
2 Timothy 3:16
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Re: Why is the Bible the ONLY True Word of God? -
05-19-2014, 09:53 PM
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I understand alot i am trying to prove a point that god was both man and woman and created both but yet in a sexist way is unjust to woman's.
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Sweetie, what may seem sexist or unjust to some people (not Christians, for sure), is part of God's plan. Who are we, the expandable lab rats in God's marvelous laboratory, to question His judgements?
I will pray for your soul. Not that it will help, but it will make me feel better.
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05-20-2014, 06:00 AM
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Flunky, dear, with friends as dumb as you, Randi really doesn't need enemies, does he?
You insist that you have been making some sort of argument. I have now read all your posts and have yet to see anything which could be described as a point, let alone an argument.
A contradiction (and please, I beg you, learn to spell that word) is not an argument.
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Well, I have made some great points and i will make more even if you don't want to hear the truth.I will make it as clear as i can for you all.
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05-20-2014, 06:05 AM
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James Randi is a homersexual deviant God mocker, so he would never pay a million dollars for proof because he would never accept proof.
Psalm 137:9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.
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05-20-2014, 06:10 AM
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Sweetie, what may seem sexist or unjust to some people (not Christians, for sure), is part of God's plan. Who are we, the expandable lab rats in God's marvelous laboratory, to question His judgements?
I will pray for your soul. Not that it will help, but it will make me feel better.
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I hate to imforme you but nothing is planned and in the words of the late great George Carlin.
I want you to know, when it comes to believing in god- I really tried. I really really tried. I tried to believe that there is a god who created each one of us in his own image and likeness, loves us very much and keeps a close eye on things. I really tried to believe that, but I gotta tell you, the longer you live, the more you look around, the more you realize...something is F*CKED-UP. Something is WRONG here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is NOT good work. If this is the best god can do, I am NOT impressed. Results like these do not belong on the resume of a supreme being. This is the kind of sh*t you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently run universe, this guy would have been out on his all-powerful-ass a long time ago. [George Carlin, from "You Are All Diseased"
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