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Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! -
05-27-2014, 07:29 AM
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How can gravity be false? I just don't understand.
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It's covered in the OP. Did you have English problems? Landover does not provide translation services, but you're welcome to try Google Translate.
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Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! -
06-20-2014, 07:44 PM
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Interesting way to look at it I must say. Did you actually go into space yourself or did you just read or hear about it? For now I will assume you read or heard about it. What makes you say that what you read or heard about space travel is true yet what is in God's Holy Bible is false? Would it not be far more logical to assume it is the other way around?
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Interesting way to look at it I must say. Did you meet anyone from the bible, like jesus, noah, adam etc, or did you just read or hear about it ? For now I will assume you read or hear about it. What makes you say that what you read or heard about jesus is true yet what science hold as evidence is false ? Would it not be more logical to assume it is the other way around ?
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Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! -
06-20-2014, 07:59 PM
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Interesting way to look at it I must say. Did you meet anyone from the bible, like jesus, noah, adam etc, or did you just read or hear about it ? For now I will assume you read or hear about it. What makes you say that what you read or heard about jesus is true yet what science hold as evidence is false ? Would it not be more logical to assume it is the other way around ?
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For True Christians™, the Bible is evidence. But thank you for admitting that science is on such shaky ground!
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06-21-2014, 02:13 AM
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For True Christians™, the Bible is evidence. But thank you for admitting that science is on such shaky ground!
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I can most definitely vouch for the 'shaky ground' that science is on. As an ex-atheist, I learnt a lot about science, and now that I have realised the error of my ways, and accepted Christianity, I look back and see how silly 99% of science is.
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Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! -
06-21-2014, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Zechariah Smyth
For True Christians™, the Bible is evidence. But thank you for admitting that science is on such shaky ground!
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I think of it like a tree, Mr Smyth.
For things we need to work out for ourselves, evidence is necessary. For example if were preparing food for The Pastors, a pie to share perhaps, I might ask them what they fancied. Beef maybe, or pork. For me that would be evidence but if I told you what they said that would not be evidence for you because they told me and I told you what I heard them say, which is hearsay and that is not evidence.
Some things do not require evidence. Like if I accidently slip over and slide down a muddy bank and bounce off a tree I don't have to work out if I'm in pain.
Sometimes people query whether God is a "substance" or whether His gifts are real. The gift of Salvation is particularly questioned by heathens who simply want to sin away their lives, with no hope for the future and instant gratification their only objective (although if it's instant it can't really be an objective but they don't know that because their logic has been warped by false beliefs).
HEBREWS 11
1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
2 For by it the elders obtained a good report.
3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
KJV .. context God has explained that faith is evidence, the substance of things hoped for. That is how we know they are real. Secular science applies "rules of evidence" to realms far beyond any need for proof. God encourages us to use the reason He created:
ISAIAH 1
18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
KJV .. look up That does not mean applying reason inappropriately. Trying to work out whether I am in pain, say, or born wretched in sin. Which brings me back to the tree. At the top we have God. Next we have His Revealed Word, through which He speaks directly to each one of us. Lower down there are questions for which evidence is required, such as what to cook for The Pastors in my example, and at the bottom things which aren't even questions.
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By reason we know that our sins, although scarlet, shall be white as snow. The existence of sin in the first place belongs to a higher category, we are informed of this fact in The Bible. We know that ours is no forlorn hope because of evidence & it is substantial evidence: Faith.
Not all evidence is a substance. The Holy Ghost witnesses in the world today and is first hand evidence for The Apostles, for Peter, for me and also first hand evidence for everyone else. This isn't some idea I've just cooked up; Peter was familiar with the concept in the 1st century as he explains here:
ACTS 5
32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
KJV .. context How does this equate with the testimony of The Holy Ghost being direct evidence for all from God and thus belonging to the top stratum of the tree of evidence? God explains this in easy-to-understand terms as follows:
HEBREWS 10
14 By one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
KJV .. context God Himself interacts directly with our hearts and minds. He says so Himself. Anything contradicting Him is therefore false, especially in matters of so-called "scientific investigation" and opinion is altogether unnecessary to demonstrate that. God has explained how some of the world works in The Bible. Comments from geologists and astrologers, geneticists and evolutionary biologists or the wild speculations of nuclear physics and philology are completely unnecessary.
The evidence is in and they are all wrong.
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Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! -
06-24-2014, 11:55 PM
When my husband was a boy, he had an acquaintance named Sam. Everybody that knew Sam was scared of him, and with good reason—he was the biggest and strongest kid in the neighborhood, and he was mean. He used to tell people he was seven feet tall. He sure did look it. Seven Foot Sam is what they called him. If he wanted your lunch, you let him eat it. If he wanted to twist your arm until you cried uncle, you let him twist it. Sam was an old fashioned bully.
One day, my husband and his friends followed Sam home from school. While he was walking through the woods, they knocked him out with chloroform, gagged him, and tied him up. They stripped him too. For hours they spat and pissed on him, burned him with cigarettes, shoved toothpicks under his toenails, and sodomized him with a toilet plunger. They also brought along a yardstick. After whipping him raw with it, they measured him. It turned out Seven Foot Sam was only six-foot-two! Nobody was scared of him after that. Keep in mind that Sam was eleven years old, so he might have grown to be seven feet if he hadn't shot his brains out. But the point is, he wasn't. He was all bluster.
Why do I bring up this story? Because secular scientists are just like Sam—they make all kinds of claims but have no measuring stick to back them up. They have no absolute standard of Truth, so none of their theories can ever be proven.
We have such a standard: the Bible. We know that everything in the Bible is true because God says so. When the Word of God is brought to bear on phony science, lies crumble away and the Truth becomes plain to see. Nothing that contradicts the Bible can ever be true, nor can anything that's in the Bible be false.
2 Timothy 3:16-17
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
Let God be your guide and you'll always be right.
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Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! -
01-26-2016, 05:59 PM
Very good list. I know you're gonna hate to hear this, but Hitler would have been proud.
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Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! -
02-11-2016, 07:52 AM
If you are stupid enough not to believe in facts like atomic theory, round earthism, heliocentrism, gravity and evolution, then it is not worth my time trying to explain them to you. If it were not for all those things, you would not exist.
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Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! -
02-11-2016, 08:22 AM
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If you are stupid enough not to believe in facts like atomic theory, round earthism, heliocentrism, gravity and evolution, then it is not worth my time trying to explain them to you. If it were not for all those things, you would not exist.
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Mr. Snark,
I have underlined in your nice post the part that requires some more attention. I've done it for your benefit to help to revise your reply and to develop your skills in debate.
Calling someone stupid is simply an appeal to person. It is called the ad hominem fallacy. People may be stupid and still know the Truth™. If a retard can tell you that falling from a rooftop might kill you, is his information flawed because of his inadequate brain capacity. Of course it isn't. In addition to this fallacy your post contains absolutely no evidence material but you claim we are wrong based on our personality and our characteristics.
Matthew 5:3
Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Even if we were stupid, you would still have to assess the actual content of the opening post. This is where you have failed miserably. However, I'd be more than happy to discuss the actual issues with you if and when we can discard the ballast of fallacies from your replies.
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Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! -
02-11-2016, 03:57 PM
Round earthism? Is that really what they call it?
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02-11-2016, 05:40 PM
I really don't care about your preposterous nit pickings of language, but what proof do you have that evolution, heliocentrism ect is not true
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Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! -
02-11-2016, 06:10 PM
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I really don't care about your preposterous nit pickings of language, but what proof do you have that evolution, heliocentrism ect is not true
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Wait, what?
So you actually think that the Sun is the center of the entire universe?
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Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! -
02-11-2016, 06:30 PM
No, heliocentrism is the name for a sun centred solar system, not universe
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Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! -
02-11-2016, 06:34 PM
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No, heliocentrism is the name for a sun centred solar system, not universe
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Heliocentric model:
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Based on ongoing observations of the motions of the planets, as well as previous theories from classical antiquity and the Islamic World, Copernicus’ proposed a model of the Universe where the Earth, the planets and the stars all revolved around the Sun.
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Go back to school, kid, and try not to sleep through classes this time.
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Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! -
02-11-2016, 07:51 PM
Heliocentric is simply the idea of anything with a star at the centre. The facts are the heliocentric model of our solar system, nobody said anything about the universe.
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Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! -
02-11-2016, 08:16 PM
I'm sure that if the Sun was considered the center of the universe that God would've mentioned that in the Bible at some point.
Since He didn't, well...it ain't.
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Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! -
02-11-2016, 08:46 PM
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Heliocentric is simply the idea of anything with a star at the centre. The facts are the heliocentric model of our solar system, nobody said anything about the universe.
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Even by your twisted cherry-picked so-called definition - what difference does it make to anyone?
And if it doesn't make a difference, where's the problem in your believing it?
Why be hateful and persecute Christians?
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Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! -
02-11-2016, 08:55 PM
Just by my definition, I said the sunis at the centre of the SOLAR SYSTEM, not the universe. And who cares what it says it the bible, it's just complete nonsense anyway
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Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! -
02-11-2016, 09:23 PM
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...And who cares what it says it the bible, it's just complete nonsense anyway
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Says the ostrich that hasn't even read it. Your credibility approaches zero.
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Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science! -
02-12-2016, 08:05 PM
the reason I am an atheist is that I have read the KJ bible from cover to cover and realised how simply stupid it was. All your credibility is zero as you don't believe in gravity, heliocentrism, evolution ect.
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