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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 05-28-2012, 06:37 PM

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There is no god showing me anything, only thing I see is a book with a story and a lot of people trying to convince others to believe their story!
This is quite an immature response. Frankly, I'm surprised at you. With all your carrying on about proof and such, to dismiss such a thing simply because it doesn't make sense to you is just silly. You'd rather take the side of an easily explainable belief system (atheism) than take the time to learn real information (Biblical Truth).

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You think you're the real Christian, going to heaven and everyone else will go to hell, other Christians (which you don't call Christians oddly enough) who believe in another version of the bible or don't take the bible seriously word for word would be wrong and people with other religions? There are like hundreds of religions but still every single person believing in a religion is 100% sure, their religion is real and their god is real. The most logic solution to this is that you are ALL wrong.
That's not the most logical solution by any means. The most logical would be to test the claims made by these other Christian wanna-be's and see how they hold up to scrutiny. We have done this because we're not lazy and we're not dependent on a belief system - we let the evidence speak for itself.


Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 05-28-2012, 06:44 PM

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First of all. This forum is not friendly. You people start offending people here on the forum all the time, calling them names etc. So that's a lie. Second you offend me for being so ignorant, so we're even there.
Then furthermore you people DO BLINDLY OBEY the bible, that's what the whole baptist church is about, you obey and follow every single word of the bible.

And there are not any scientific proofs of god, people like you just SAY god exists and call it science.

You're just here to be rude.

Never mind - you're going to burn in Hell.

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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 05-28-2012, 06:58 PM

Capt. I quote: The Bible is true because it is God's Word. How do we know this? It says so in the Bible.

That's a circle reasoning and therefore is invalid, did you go to school good sir?
And I don't feel like jumping of bridges just to check if people like you are right or not, because I'm pretty much sure (not 100% sure) there is no god, nor heaven nor hell.

And let's see Mary Etheldreda, I'm responding pretty immaturely indeed, because I see a lot of people from your church making immature offending posts, so why wouldn't I join the club? Back on topic, what I said is exactly what happened to the bible.

And you're talking about proof. The only thing you have is a book, nothing but a book started 2000 years ago and it is PROVEN that this so called bible has been changed hundreds of times when priests copied them to spread out the word of god. So the bible you believe in isn't even the same one as 2000 years ago, how can you follow it word for word?

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That would be nice, I'm still having a nasty cold I would like to get rid off. And yes I am rude, because I am the opposite of you people. Social, atheist, free, not afraid to say what they think, not afraid to masturbate, not afraid to have sex before marriage, not afraid to end up in hell, live my live the way I want and be free!
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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 05-28-2012, 07:14 PM

Good grief, it always boils down to "choking the chicken" with you weirdos.



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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 05-28-2012, 07:19 PM

I pity your ignorance. Good luck with your life
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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 05-28-2012, 07:23 PM

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I'm ignorant because I don't spend every waking hour "shaking hands with the unemployed" ???



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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 05-28-2012, 09:56 PM

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That would be nice, I'm still having a nasty cold I would like to get rid off. And yes I am rude, because I am the opposite of you people. Social, atheist, free, not afraid to say what they think, not afraid to masturbate, not afraid to have sex before marriage, not afraid to end up in hell, live my live the way I want and be free!
You are not free, you are bound in your sin,

John
8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.


and your self-love retarded attempts at self-fallatio. In other words, you are homersexural!

1 Corinthians
6:18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

Ezekiel
16:15 But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by; his it was.
16:16 And of thy garments thou didst take, and deckedst thy high places with divers colours, and playedst the harlot thereupon: the like things shall not come, neither shall it be so.
16:17 Thou hast also taken thy fair jewels of my gold and of my silver, which I had given thee, and madest to thyself images of men, and didst commit whoredom with them.,


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Jerimiah 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.
Numbers 32:23 But if ye will not do so, behold, ye have sinned against the LORD: and be sure your sin will find you out.
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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 05-29-2012, 12:54 AM

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There is no god showing me anything, only thing I see is a book with a story and a lot of people trying to convince others to believe their story! You think you're the real Christian, going to heaven and everyone else will go to hell, other Christians (which you don't call Christians oddly enough) who believe in another version of the bible or don't take the bible seriously word for word would be wrong and people with other religions? There are like hundreds of religions but still every single person believing in a religion is 100% sure, their religion is real and their god is real. The most logic solution to this is that you are ALL wrong.
Then why are you here? Are you incapable of closing your browser? It's the little red X in the upper right corner.

Oh and earlier you meant "harping" which is a real word, not "herping" whatever that was supposed to mean. But I'm sure you're just another victim of the public brainwashing system.


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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 05-29-2012, 11:38 PM

Nope I was talking about herping, it comes from herp derp which means you're doing something without really know what you are doing.
And calling me brainwashed is really skeptical, how do you think I think about you people?
And I don't quit my browser because I like to argue with you people, since you can't bring up any valid argument yourself anyway, just shows how stupid and retarded you people are.
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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 05-30-2012, 02:44 AM

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Nope I was talking about herping, it comes from herp derp which means you're doing something without really know what you are doing.
And calling me brainwashed is really skeptical, how do you think I think about you people?
Well, you are an excellent example of a retard that does not know what it is speaking of; you do err not knowing the scriptures. Your self-righteous® narcissism is vary apparent you sewage spewing satanist!

Romans
10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

And incidently, you are brainwashed with no ability to think as Jesus thought, you damned fool!

1 Timothy

4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

It does not matter what you, a hell-bound heathen, thinks of anyone.

1 Corinthians
2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.


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Deuteronomy32:35 To me belongeth vengeance and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.
Jerimiah 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.
Numbers 32:23 But if ye will not do so, behold, ye have sinned against the LORD: and be sure your sin will find you out.
Leviticus24:14 Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.
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Lightbulb Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 06-10-2012, 06:39 PM

Stating proof that God exists is based solely on the bible and then legitimizing the scientific worth of the bible because it comes from God is of course circular reasoning and a logical fallacy.

Circular logic will always result in a valid deduction because the reasoner only uses premises which are (assumed) true. It cannot however prove a conclusion (in this case God Exists) because if the conclusion is doubted then the premises are doubted as well (i.e. the Bible and God justifies the Bible).

If I were to conjure an invisible ball which one cannot sense in my hand and state that because I am a conjurer, the ball must exist. And since the ball exists I must be conjurer. The same fallacy occurs and the logical validity is of the same worth as stating that the bible proves God's existence and vice versa.

The same goes for the Scientific method by the way. Scientists trying to proof that the Scientific method is correct can only use the scientific method itself, thus resulting in circular reasoning. The same applies to Bible and God, God and Bible.

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Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 06-10-2012, 07:19 PM

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Friend, God likes original thought.

If you are incapable of doing so, please say nothing. If you must use another persons work to back up a point you have made, please use proper foot notes, give credit and pay any applicable usury fees.
And using solely the bible as a source for every of your thought is...original? This is illogical. Open your eyes to the true way of the God, the Way of Logic. The material I used in my post was basic Logics. My source? College.

If this is a request however for enlightenment into the God's only true message then I am happy to oblige. You can read a lot about the Way of Logic through learning, start with these:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic
http://blog.wanderingmango.com/so-yo...c-the-series-p
(last one will try to sell you something as well, view those at your own discretion)

It is however much a thought training as well and achieving wisdom through Logic depends on your readiness to release yourself from dogmatic thinking processes.
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And using solely the bible as a source for every of your thought is...original? This is illogical. Open your eyes to the true way of the God, the Way of Logic. The material I used in my post was basic Logics. My source? College.

If this is a request however for enlightenment into the God's only true message then I am happy to oblige. You can read a lot about the Way of Logic through learning, start with these:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic
http://blog.wanderingmango.com/so-yo...c-the-series-p
(last one will try to sell you something as well, view those at your own discretion)

It is however much a thought training as well and achieving wisdom through Logic depends on your readiness to release yourself from dogmatic thinking processes.
Congratulations of passing Logic101 at community college. Best of luck next semester when you take Home Ec.


Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 06-17-2012, 09:39 AM

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And using solely the bible as a source for every of your thought is...original? This is illogical. Open your eyes to the true way of the God, the Way of Logic. The material I used in my post was basic Logics. My source? College.

If this is a request however for enlightenment into the God's only true message then I am happy to oblige. You can read a lot about the Way of Logic through learning, start with these:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic
http://blog.wanderingmango.com/so-yo...c-the-series-p
(last one will try to sell you something as well, view those at your own discretion)

It is however much a thought training as well and achieving wisdom through Logic depends on your readiness to release yourself from dogmatic thinking processes.
That is your problem you have bought into the Atheist's lies that are propagated at so-called secular public school. It is common knowledge that secular colleges are only interested in pushing the atheist/homosexual agenda. Good luck with your "logic" in hell.


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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 06-17-2012, 10:13 AM

Yes, these libs. even if you could prove the existence of god with out any objection, I doubt they would even allow them selves to be ruled by him. ungratefuls.
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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 06-19-2012, 03:42 AM

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Yes, these libs. even if you could prove the existence of god with out any objection, I doubt they would even allow them selves to be ruled by him. ungratefuls.
The thread is about "PROOF God is REAL!" not "even if you could prove the existence of God without any objection.."

For me the question of God's existence is less important than how much He loves us. Sure, secularists and heathens might come up with novel (but uninteresting) ideas: the sun is square; the sky does not exist; birds are a type of moss — who cares? The burden of proof lies with them not me.

And He does love us.

Pharaonic Egypt was a cruel and wicked land ruled by demonic tyrants, financed by looting, rape and pillage. Joseph introduced many improvements (agriculture, for example) and found favour with the government - such as it was - of that nation.
FROM CONTEMPORARY HISTORICAL RECORDS OF THE ERA
GENESIS 41:25,33-37 And Ioseph said vnto Pharaoh, the dreame of Pharaoh is one; God hath shewed Pharaoh what he is about to doe.. Now therfore let Pharaoh looke out a man discreet and wise, and set him ouer the land of Egypt. Let Pharaoh doe this, and let him appoint officers ouer the land, & take vp the fift part of the land of Egypt, in the seuen plenteous yeeres. And let them gather all the food of those good yeeres that come, and lay vp corne vnder the hand of Pharaoh, and let them keepe food in the cities. And that food shall be for store to the land, against the seuen yeeres of famine, which shall bee in the land of Egypt, that the land perish not through the famine. And the thing was good in the eyes of Pharaoh, and in the eyes of all his seruants.
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Egypt prospered.

Nevertheless, over the coming years, satanic pharaohs persecuted the Israelites and God decided His chosen people would leave. He led them into The Promised Land and ordained that a priestly caste should mediate His Perfect Love.
EXODUS 32:26-29 Then Moses stood in the gate of the campe, and saide, Who is on the Lords side? let him come vnto mee. And all the sonnes of Leui gathered themselues together vnto him. And hee said vnto them, Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Put euery man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the campe, and slay euery man his brother, and euery man his companion, and euery man his neighbour. And the children of Leui did according to the word of Moses; and there fell of the people that day about three thousand men. For Moses had said, Consecrate your selues to day to the Lord, euen euery man vpon his sonne, and vpon his brother, that he may bestow vpon you a blessing this day.
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Establishing sex orgies and idolatry are not on God's "to do" list. There is a reason why. Idols and whoremongering lead to HELL and UNSPEAKABLE TORTURE FOREVER! If God did not love His people He would not tell us that. He would not protect us.

But He does protect us.
FROM THE HISTORICAL RECORD
JEREMIAH 50: 18-21,26,29-31,35-38 Therefore thus saith the Lord of hostes the God of Israel; Behold, I will punish the king of Babylon and his land, as I haue punished the king of Assyria. And I will bring Israel againe to his habitation, and he shal feed on Carmel and Bashan, and his soule shall be satisfied vpon mount Ephraim and Gilead. In those dayes, and in that time, sayth the Lord, the iniquitie of Israel shall be sought for, and there shall be none; and the sinnes of Iudah, and they shall not be found: for I will pardon them whom I reserue. Goe vp against the land of Merathaim, euen against it, and against the inhabitants of Pekod: waste and vtterly destroy after them, sayeth the Lord, and doe according to all that I haue commanded thee..
Come against her from the vtmost border, open her store-houses: cast her vp as heapes, and destroy her vtterly: let nothing of her be left..
Call together the archers against Babylon: all yee that bend the bow, campe against it round about; let none thereof escape: recompense her according to her worke; according to all that shee hath done vnto her: for shee hath bene proud against the Lord, against the Holy one of Israel. Therefore shall her yong men fall in the streets, & all her men of war shall be cut off in that day, saith the Lord. Behold, I am against thee, O thou most proud, sayth the Lord God of hostes: for thy day is come, the time that I will visit thee..
A sword is vpon the Caldeans, saith the Lord, and vpon the inhabitants of Babylon, and vpon her princes, and vpon her wise men. A sword is vpon the lyers, and they shall dote: a sword is vpon her mighty men, and they shalbe dismayed. A sword is vpon their horses, and vpon their charets, and vpon all the mingled people that are in the middest of her, and they shall become as women: a sword is vpon her treasures, and they shall be robbed. A drought is vpon her waters, and they shalbe dried vp: for it is the land of grauen images, and they are madde vpon their idoles.
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Quite a catastrophe! The heathen and the communist the atheist and slut entice us to no avail. "How about a bit intercopulation? Oo Mitza, could you help us out with a lesbian display? Quick! Quick! Grovel before this giant wooden phallus! Writhe here in the temple bordello. Bring the goat.." I don't know why they bother we know what happens next utter destruction neverending torture in HELL wailing gnashing and pain pain pain..

If God did not love us so, He would leave us to wallow in degradation but we are not abandoned we are forewarned and the consequences of all that appalling behaviour - activities that would never occur to a Christian - are recorded for us as a testimony to Him and to the Love which never dies.

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......I don't care
.........There is no sky?
............(yawn) Fie!
...............Moss is a duck?
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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 06-19-2012, 05:58 AM

I have a conviction that god is real. I can hear him say my name when I sleep.
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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 06-19-2012, 09:51 AM

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I have a conviction that god is real. I can hear him say my name when I sleep.
Pharaoh also received information from God when he was asleep. I included the Scripture in my earlier post before I was called away.
PHARAOH'S DREAM
Genesis 41:1-7 And it came to passe at the end of two ful yeeres, that Pharaoh dreamed: and beholde, hee stood by the riuer. And behold, there came vp out of the riuer seuen well fauoured kine, and fat fleshed, and they fed in a medow. And behold, seuen other kine came vp after them out of the riuer, ill fauoured and leane fleshed, and stood by the other kine, vpon the brinke of the riuer. And the ill fauoured and leane fleshed kine, did eate vp the seuen well fauoured and fat kine: So Pharaoh awoke. And hee slept and dreamed the second time: and beholde, seuen eares of corne came vp vpon one stalke, ranke and good. And beholde, seuen thinne eares and blasted with the Eastwind, sprang vp after them. And the seuen thinne eares deuoured the seuen ranke and full eares: and Pharaoh awoke, and behold, it was a dreame.
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With no sound understanding of agriculture Pharaoh was at a loss and sought information from Joseph. But Joseph stated up front that the information he had for Pharaoh did not come from himself.
Genesis 41:16 And Ioseph answered Pharaoh, saying; It is not in me: God shall giue Pharaoh an answere of peace.
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God was telling Pharaoh that there was going to be a famine. God had the appropriate agrarian knowledge to deal with that and put Joseph in charge. Storehouses were built, food was stored.
When the famine struck (it extended over the whole world, not just Egypt) God's mercy was self-evident.
Genesis 41:56-57 And the famine was ouer all the face of the earth; and Ioseph opened all the storehouses, and solde vnto the Egyptians: and the famine waxed sore in the land of Egypt. And all countreys came into Egypt to Ioseph, for to buy corne, because that the famine was so sore in all lands.
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Obviously God couldn't do that if He were not real. And those sound farming principles remain to this day!
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Default Re: PROOF God is REAL! - 06-19-2012, 03:12 PM

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God's agricultural genius.
The very fact it took God to reveal it to Joseph via a dream had by a ruler shows just how advanced an idea storing food to tide people over through the lean times actually is. Nobody had ever thought of this before and just think what a shoddy place the world would be if God had never mercifully revealed this idea. We'd still be grubbing around having to just eat what we had just dug up or hunted. We'd be useless. Barely higher than savages.

God's wisdom in coming up with the entire revolution of modern agriculture back in the ancient times shows He is real. No question!

It's amazing we're still having to point stuff like this out in these times where we take it all for granted.



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