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Exodus 34....HELP! -
07-30-2010, 04:12 AM
I fear I have been damned to hell after reading Exodus 34. Where DID this come from? Did someone slip this in while I wasn't looking? Pastors, help!
Moses went to the mountain three times, no? The first time he came back with the 10 Commandments, but they weren't written on tablets. The second time he came back with the 10 Commandments on stone tablets but was SO annoyed with his bros for idolatry that he smashed them. The third trip was recorded in Exodus 34, where he got a dupe of the 10 Commandments.
Should I be concerned or joyful that I don't have to worry about committing murder anymore? Adultery - No problem! Perjury, coveting, it's all good. Am I sinning by being angry at all that I've missed out on by following those outdated 10 Commandments?
I am so confused.
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Exodus 34
The New Stone Tablets
1 The LORD said to Moses, "Chisel out two stone tablets like the first ones, and I will write on them the words that were on the first tablets, which you broke. 2 Be ready in the morning, and then come up on Mount Sinai. Present yourself to me there on top of the mountain. 3 No one is to come with you or be seen anywhere on the mountain; not even the flocks and herds may graze in front of the mountain."
4 So Moses chiseled out two stone tablets like the first ones and went up Mount Sinai early in the morning, as the LORD had commanded him; and he carried the two stone tablets in his hands. 5 Then the LORD came down in the cloud and stood there with him and proclaimed his name, the LORD. 6 And he passed in front of Moses, proclaiming, "The LORD, the LORD, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, 7 maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children and their children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation."
8 Moses bowed to the ground at once and worshiped. 9 "O Lord, if I have found favor in your eyes," he said, "then let the Lord go with us. Although this is a stiff-necked people, forgive our wickedness and our sin, and take us as your inheritance."
10 Then the LORD said: "I am making a covenant with you. Before all your people I will do wonders never before done in any nation in all the world. The people you live among will see how awesome is the work that I, the LORD, will do for you. 11 Obey what I command you today. I will drive out before you the Amorites, Canaanites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites. 12 Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land where you are going, or they will be a snare among you. 13 Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones and cut down their Asherah poles. [a] 14 Do not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.
15 "Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land; for when they prostitute themselves to their gods and sacrifice to them, they will invite you and you will eat their sacrifices. 16 And when you choose some of their daughters as wives for your sons and those daughters prostitute themselves to their gods, they will lead your sons to do the same.
17 "Do not make cast idols.
18 "Celebrate the Feast of Unleavened Bread. For seven days eat bread made without yeast, as I commanded you. Do this at the appointed time in the month of Abib, for in that month you came out of Egypt.
19 "The first offspring of every womb belongs to me, including all the firstborn males of your livestock, whether from herd or flock. 20 Redeem the firstborn donkey with a lamb, but if you do not redeem it, break its neck. Redeem all your firstborn sons.
"No one is to appear before me empty-handed.
21 "Six days you shall labor, but on the seventh day you shall rest; even during the plowing season and harvest you must rest.
22 "Celebrate the Feast of Weeks with the firstfruits of the wheat harvest, and the Feast of Ingathering at the turn of the year. [b] 23 Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Sovereign LORD, the God of Israel. 24 I will drive out nations before you and enlarge your territory, and no one will covet your land when you go up three times each year to appear before the LORD your God.
25 "Do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to me along with anything containing yeast, and do not let any of the sacrifice from the Passover Feast remain until morning.
26 "Bring the best of the firstfruits of your soil to the house of the LORD your God.
"Do not cook a young goat in its mother's milk."
27 Then the LORD said to Moses, "Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel." 28 Moses was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant—the Ten Commandments.
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Re: Exodus 34....HELP! -
07-30-2010, 04:52 AM
Try reading the real Bible.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.
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Re: Exodus 34....HELP! -
07-30-2010, 04:59 AM
So what's your question exactly? We follow all of the rules in the Bible, so it doesn't matter whether you are discussing the first set given or the second set.
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Re: Exodus 34....HELP! -
07-31-2010, 04:40 AM
The question, exactly, is "What are the 10 Commandments?"
God obviously set some directives above others, else why make a big deal over the "10"? And now I read that it is of critical importance, indeed one of the 10 most important things, not to boil a kid in its mother's milk. That could be a major inconvenience. And I simply cannot find a local feast of unleavened bread, yet I am commanded to attend.
You see why this is keeping me up nights.
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Re: Exodus 34....HELP! -
07-31-2010, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by landoverlover
The question, exactly, is "What are the 10 Commandments?"
God obviously set some directives above others, else why make a big deal over the "10"? And now I read that it is of critical importance, indeed one of the 10 most important things, not to boil a kid in its mother's milk. That could be a major inconvenience. And I simply cannot find a local feast of unleavened bread, yet I am commanded to attend.
You see why this is keeping me up nights.
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As I said before, you are not reading the real Bible. No go and get yourself a King James 1611 Bible.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.
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Re: Exodus 34....HELP! -
07-31-2010, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by landoverlover
The question, exactly, is "What are the 10 Commandments?"
God obviously set some directives above others, else why make a big deal over the "10"? And now I read that it is of critical importance, indeed one of the 10 most important things, not to boil a kid in its mother's milk. That could be a major inconvenience. And I simply cannot find a local feast of unleavened bread, yet I am commanded to attend.
You see why this is keeping me up nights.
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Where does it say some rules are more important than others?
Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Matthew 4:4 Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
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Re: Exodus 34....HELP! -
07-31-2010, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by landoverlover
The question, exactly, is "What are the 10 Commandments?"
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Friend, you're going about this the wrong way.
First you start out with the correct Bible (i.e. KJV 1611) and then you can start asking sensible questions.
Otherwise it's like having your pants down and asking people how the zipper works.
I take my orders from Jesus H. Christ, supernatural born US citizen
Be wary of false Kumbaya Christians who use a highlighter and scissors to read the Bible. God wants us to read the lines, not between the lines. False Christians will go to Hell:
Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Asking a Christian to prove God exists is like asking him to prove his phone rings because yours doesn't. Make that call yourself! Dial 0800-get-on-your-knees-and-pray.
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Re: Exodus 34....HELP! -
07-31-2010, 08:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by landoverlover
The question, exactly, is "What are the 10 Commandments?"
God obviously set some directives above others, else why make a big deal over the "10"? And now I read that it is of critical importance, indeed one of the 10 most important things, not to boil a kid in its mother's milk. That could be a major inconvenience. And I simply cannot find a local feast of unleavened bread, yet I am commanded to attend.
You see why this is keeping me up nights.
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Please read THIS thread on the 10 commandments. I'm certain that you will become enlightened.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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