[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by Ezekiel Bathfire

Hmmm... I've said it before and I'll say it again, he'll be back - Jesus has pointed him here for a purpose.

What a hateful boy! Why is it that these atheists are always so full of anger?

I agree with you Brother Bathfire. They always come back. Jesus has called him here for a reason. It certainly wasn't to write poetry.

[ShakeyJake]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

What a hateful boy! Why is it that these atheists are always so full of anger?

I agree with you Brother Bathfire. They always come back. Jesus has called him here for a reason. It certainly wasn't to write poetry.

Atheists are hateful because if you were to actually take a step back and look at what you guys believe, it's completely ridiculous. Sure the morals taught by the bible are useful for teaching, but God doesn't exist, go back to your 4000 year old while i pick up this 100 million year old rock. Religion was created for people too scared to face reality and there being nothing after death.

when you Cant explain something! LIE. (probably what happened 2000 years ago)


"example" - Who ate the cupcake ? "child replies: A MONSTER!"

Who created humans? .. umm god!

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Originally Posted by Shakey

Atheists are hateful because if you were to actually take a step back and look at what you guys believe, it's completely ridiculous. Sure the morals taught by the bible are useful for teaching, but God doesn't exist, go back to your 4000 year old while i pick up this 100 million year old rock. Religion was created for people too scared to face reality and there being nothing after death.

when you Cant explain something! LIE. (probably what happened 2000 years ago)

"example" - Who ate the cupcake ? "child replies: A MONSTER!"

Who created humans? .. umm god!

So why are atheists hateful? You didn't quite get around to explaining that. You explained why they lie, but we already knew that.

[ShakeyJake]

Originally Posted by Pastor Al E Pistle

So why are atheists hateful? You didn't quite get around to explaining that. You explained why they lie, but we already knew that.

I'm not a christian, as you probably have guessed, however that doesn't mean i completely disagree with some of the teachings from the bibles, as i said, they supply good morals to base ones life on. But not you. You people are a hypocrite's against your own cause. It's disgusting how you can take every word from a 2000 year old jumble of random stories with no evidence literally. I'm not filled with anger, i'm filled with hate against extremists like you. Are you proud of being christian?

[Nobar King]

Just another hateful atheist. Proves the point, :"atheists are hateful bigots". Shouldn't you be hating on the islamofascists instead?

[ShakeyJake]

Originally Posted by Nobar King

Just another hateful atheist. Proves the point, :"atheists are hateful bigots". Shouldn't you be hating on the islamofascists instead?

I try to avoid direct hating, and please stop evading questions by resorting to "just another athiest" You are being incredibly hypocritical in calling me a hateful Bigot, you know.. all the homophobia etc that you guys for some reason live you lives by. And yes i also disagree with extremists from most religions, it's not necessary, particularly when all of this is based off of something that you have no evidence of.

[Nobar King]

So, it's OK for you to judge me, but not for me to judge you, even though you already told us you hate us? My post was accurate.

[Kalibot]

Your faith has been judging people for two thousand years. Give someone else a chance.

[ShakeyJake]

Originally Posted by Nobar King

So, it's OK for you to judge me, but not for me to judge you, even though you already told us you hate us? My post was accurate.

Everyone judges everyone else, don't try to deny that, everywhere i go you are judging people, so yes it's ok for you to judge me, but i'm going to judge you as well.

[Nobar King]

He can start his own user group forum type thing.

[Nobar King]

OK, I see what's going on here. Look. We don't hate you teenagers just because you have denied the will of Jesus Christ.

We are here to help you and nurture within you the love and respect you should have for the Son of God who died upon the cross for your sins!! Amen!

What do you have to lose besides everlasting paradise? We are here to help guide you to the light. Why are you so resistant?

[ShakeyJake]

I'm so resistant due to the massive lack of evidence for everything you believe in, apart from a glorified novel. And trust me, you won't be converting, or convincing, people by spewing out racist, homophobic hatred.

[Kalibot]

Originally Posted by Nobar King

OK, I see what's going on here. Look. We don't hate you teenagers just because you have denied the will of Jesus Christ.

We are here to help you and nurture within you the love and respect you should have for the Son of God who died upon the cross for your sins!! Amen!

What do you have to lose besides everlasting paradise? We are here to help guide you to the light. Why are you so resistant?

I'll say beforehand that I don't want to offend anyone (although my previous comment seems to violate this, sorry). You have your own beliefs, and that's fine. I'm not one to try to change that.

The problem with your faith, at least for me, is that it goes against my logic. The bible (IMO) isn't meant to be taken literally. It's a book of morals. I have no doubt that Jesus existed and got crucified, but I neither believe that he died for "our" sins (how do you define our? How does a sacrifice extend into the future? Supposing the human race perseveres for millions of years and undergoes evolution and augments our natural bodies and abilities with artificial additions, will we still be human? Will Jesus have died for their sins, as well? And what about the humans of the past? If he died for the sins of people who had not been born yet, is it a stretch to say that he died for the sins of those who were already dead?) nor was resurrected.

I'm not saying what you believe in is impossible (I like to consider a great many things possible, probability notwithstanding), just that it personally doesn't make sense to me and it seems awfully convoluted and inelegant. If there is indeed a creator (which I don't rule out as a possibility. Perhaps this creator is a being from a higher spatial dimension, or from a parallel universe in which the fundamental constants of nature are different, which allow for the "powers" you ascribe to God), It (not He, I don't believe a divine being would be preoccupied with something as trivial as sex) must be a terrible planner because the bible's rendition of genesis seems very messy. I imagine It would, with ultimate power over the heavens and the earth, have a more straightfoward, simpler plan in mind.

[Nobar King]

Originally Posted by Shakey

I'm so resistant due to the massive lack of evidence for everything you believe in, apart from a glorified novel. And trust me, you won't be converting, or convincing, people by spewing out racist, homophobic hatred.

No one ever said that the road to redemption would be easy. The fact that you are here now shows that there is still hope for you. I'm praying for your soul.

[Kalibot]

I'm testing to see if I can still post. I must say, it's very disrespectful to give me an "infraction" for simply stating my view (respectably and intelligently, I might add). At least address me personally if you have a problem with what I believe.

[Nobar King]

That wasn't personal enough? OK.. I have a problem with what you believe.

[Kalibot]

It was very childish. You didn't have to deduct "points" because I stated my view. If you have a problem with what I believe, so be it. But at least tell me why so we can have a proper, respectful, reasonable debate. Don't hide behind forum functions because you're too [whatever your motivation is/isn't] to debate with me properly.

[Kalibot]

Not to mention, at no point did I imply that I'm smarter than God. If God exists, he is by default a heck of a lot more intelligent than any of us, if he created everything we see around us. But I'm not positive God does exist, although as I said, I'm completely open to the possibility. Don't treat me like an a-hole because I'm not.

[Nobar King]

Originally Posted by Kalibos

Don't treat me like an a-hole because I'm not.

Is it OK to treat you like an ass hole if you are?

[Kalibot]

May I ask how I am? I think it's safe to say that I've been very respectful of your faith in my replies. I don't personally agree with it, but I'm not saying it's wrong. I haven't done or said anything to purposely offend anyone (although it seems I've failed) and even now, as you insult me, I'm being polite.

Was not one of Jesus's principle teachings all-encompassing love and forgiveness?