[handmaiden]

Originally Posted by Joanna Lytton-Vasey

Atheistic evolutionistical vegans, who make no sense.

1. They believe - without evidence - that we are "descended from apes", i.e. they think they are animals.
2. They refuse to eat or drink any animal products, including milk.
3. But their women breast-feed (excuse the vulgar language) their children.

So, tell me, vegans, how does THAT work exactly?

If someone takes their argument that we are all animals and points out that animals eat other animals all the time, they turn around and say that people should subscribe to a "higher standard."


And don't get me started on the ones who think we are stealing honey from hard working bees and worry that pearls are cruel to oysters (which are basically globs of snot.)


Exasperatedly Yours,
Handmaiden

[Basilissa]

Originally Posted by Joanna Lytton-Vasey

Atheistic evolutionistical vegans, who make no sense.

1. They believe - without evidence - that we are "descended from apes",

...All of which are omnivorous, which means that according to these people's own evolutionary paradigm, their veganism has no evolutionary basis whatsoever.

Personally, I'll believe humans are destined to eat only veggies when God changes our dentition removing canines and gives each one of us a second stomach.

[Hereigns]

I'm honestly offended by racist bigots...on the forum it said gays and blacks not welcome. We are ALL welcome to the table, so why cant we ALL welcome each other in discussion black or white. Gay or straight.

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by Hereigns

I'm honestly offended by racist bigots...on the forum it said gays and blacks not welcome...

Where does it say blacks are not welcome?

...We are ALL welcome to the table...

What table are you talking about?

...so why cant we ALL welcome each other in discussion black or white. Gay or straight.

Everyone is welcome to come here and learn why the Bible says they're going to Hell, "black or white. Gay or straight.". On the other hand, contributions to the discussion from non-True Christians™ may not be so welcomed, unless they align with what the Bible says. Why should these people be forced to spread false information about what the Bible says? What do you have against free speech?

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Originally Posted by Didymus Much

Where does it say blacks are not welcome?

I think our friend Trevor McGregor would be astonished to hear anyone claim that!

[I Man Rastafari]

Originally Posted by Joanna Lytton-Vasey

I think our friend Trevor McGregor would be astonished to hear anyone claim that!

Thank you, Sistren. I myself am Trevor McGregor. I will have to say that I have been warmly welcomed by these Baptists ever since I first came to Babylon. Many white people are racist against Black men but these white people are not racist. They love everyone who loves Jesus. I am not a Baptist because I am Rastafari but I am still welcomed here and only occasionally under rebuke. I find that with all white people including Baptists it is best to never argue with them. They think they are right even when they are wrong so there is nothing to be gained by arguing.


I welcome you Mr. Hereigns and I say Greetings! but I fear you have already made the white people mad. I think it would be best if you behave in a more friendly manner from now on. The white people will soon come to love you as they do me if you are friendly.


Jah Guide
Trevor

[Basilissa]

Originally Posted by I Man Rastafari

They think they are right even when they are wrong so there is nothing to be gained by arguing.

That's because we're never wrong because we always side with Jesus and Jesus is always right.

[Hereigns]

It say that black people and gay people are prohibited from this section of the forum, right in the header, and we are all welcome at the lords table. You all have made it clear that if someone doesn't agree, they get banned. I'm about to get banned because I keep debating....so I apparently don't have free speech here. BTW you basically said that unless we are a true christian, we are not welcome to speak. May I ask what you have against free speech...and black people?

[handmaiden]

Originally Posted by Hereigns

I'm about to get banned because I keep debating....so I apparently don't have free speech here. . .

You call what you have been doing debating?!


Free speech is a priceless blessing of democracy. But there is a difference between "priceless" and "worthless".




Semantically Yours,


Handmaiden

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by Hereigns

...so I apparently don't have free speech here...

DING DING DING we have a winner!!


"Free speech" is a concept that's found in the US Constitution (not the Bible). The Constitution delineates the powers and responsibilities of the various levels of the government. As this is a privately-owned and operated website with no government funding or sanction, that part of the Constitution does not protect you here.


<imagine I've inserted a "the more you learn" meme here if that would amuse you>

[Elmer G. White]

Originally Posted by Didymus Much

DING DING DING we have a winner!!

"Free speech" is a concept that's found in the US Constitution (not the Bible). The Constitution delineates the powers and responsibilities of the various levels of the government. As this is a privately-owned and operated website with no government funding or sanction, that part of the Constitution does not protect you here.

<imagine I've inserted a "the more you learn" meme here if that would amuse you>

Mr. Much,

While you remain a vile sinner, I always appreciate your demeanor and your willingness to teach the teenage swarm some manners. If I may, I'd also like to add that the exclamation by this person ("...so I apparently don't have free speech here...") is also a simple appeal to pity, i.e., the ad misericordiam fallacy. Instead of discussing the actual issue, the person opts to wallow in self-pity. Similar to "free speech", God shows no particularly consistent interest in this kind of argumentation.

Deuteronomy 13:8
Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Des]

Originally Posted by Hereigns

It say that black people and gay people are prohibited from this section of the forum, right in the header, ...

So, you are opposed to safe spaces?

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Originally Posted by Hereigns

I'm about to get banned because I keep debating....

Are you confusing debating with whining? Here's what the dictionary says about the two verbs. I hope it helps.

Debate: to argue about (a subject), especially in a formal manner.

Whine: to give or make a long, high-pitched complaining cry or sound.

[Hereigns]

You may have the right to say what you like in a public forum. This is a public forum...is it not? I'm also not whining I am debating in a formal manner. If banning people from a portion of this site makes something safe, then I am against a safe place. The real issue here is racism and bigotry. I am trying to get you to realize that its wrong to do that.

[I Man Rastafari]

Originally Posted by Hereigns

The real issue here is racism and bigotry.

Greetings Hereigns! I did not realize until just now that you are a Democrat. I am also a Democrat. I have been trying to raise the consciousness of the people of Babylon and to let them know about how racist they are but they do not seem interested. Only the more enlightened people who are Democrats have been able to understand that they are racist. It seems like most of the white people in this country are tired of people pointing out that they are racist and even the Black men who are not involved with the struggle are tired of hearing about racism but it is the most important issue in Babylon today. Those of us who are more enlightened must continue to let the people know that they are being discriminated against by the white man. Also I especially enjoy that word bigotry. I do not hear it used much outside of meetings but it is wise to get the public used to using it also.

[Hereigns]

AMEN!

[Basilissa]

Originally Posted by Hereigns

You may have the right to say what you like in a public forum. This is a public forum...is it not?

That would depend on your definition of a Public forum." If that includes "a forum which is open to the public but privately owned and operated," then yes.

I'm also not whining I am debating in a formal manner.

I haven't seen you use a single Bible quote to support your claims yet - and that's our definition of a proper debate.

So no, you have not engaged in a debate yet.

If banning people from a portion of this site makes something safe, then I am against a safe place.

Bingo! You have just discovered that a "safe space" (which excludes some people from expressing their views which may be perceived as offending by others) stands in clear contradiction to "freedom of speech."

Now go and tell that to liberals - they probably won't like it and they'll exclude you from their safe spaces.

The real issue here is racism and bigotry. I am trying to get you to realize that its wrong to do that.

Please show me where in the Holy Bible it says that racism and bigotry are wrong.

Protip: you can start preparing for the debate by reading some of the threads listed in my signature, especially this one:

Jesus is xenophobic and so should we

I hope that helps!

[handmaiden]

Originally Posted by Hereigns

The real issue here is racism and bigotry. I am trying to get you to realize that its wrong to do that.

No, the real issue here is that the Bible contains things that some people would construe as racist and bigoted and we're trying to get you to realize that.

Pointedly Yours,
Handmaiden

[Hereigns]

Please show me where in the Holy Bible it says that racism and bigotry are wrong.




Matthew 7:12 States "So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets."


So you want people to hate you because of your skin color and how you choose to live? And you want them to say offensive things and say how horrible you are?


Acts 10:28 Says, "And he said to them, "You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a man who is a Jew to associate with a foreigner or to visit him; and yet God has shown me that I should not call any man unholy or unclean."


Everybody here hates on so many people and I have heard that this website is a satire website, and I really hope it is. God is love and through love we will represent him.


1 John 4:7-8 also says, "Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God. Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love."


I do encourage all of you to come to know the true God. The one who cares about every single human being, sinner or not. The one who inspires us to do the right thing. I don't think you guys accurately represent God on this website.

[handmaiden]

Originally Posted by Hereigns

Please show me where in the Holy Bible it says that racism and bigotry are wrong.




Matthew 7:12 States "So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets."


So you want people to hate you because of your skin color and how you choose to live? And you want them to say offensive things and say how horrible you are?


Acts 10:28 Says, "And he said to them, "You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a man who is a Jew to associate with a foreigner or to visit him; and yet God has shown me that I should not call any man unholy or unclean."


Everybody here hates on so many people and I have heard that this website is a satire website, and I really hope it is. God is love and through love we will represent him.


1 John 4:7-8 also says, "Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God. Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love."


I do encourage all of you to come to know the true God. The one who cares about every single human being, sinner or not. The one who inspires us to do the right thing. I don't think you guys accurately represent God on this website.

My friend, you are what is known in certain circles as a fluffy bunny Christian. You like to embrace the warm and fuzzy parts of the Bible while ignoring any verses that challenge your delicate sensibilities.


You really need to click on the link that our lovely and talented Sister Basilssa has provided for you. Then you need to do a close read of the Bible in its entirety. Remember the many verses that point out that all of the Bible is to be given the same reverence and that God and His Word are unchanging throughout the centuries and shifting mores of man.


Uncompromisingly Yours,
Handmaiden