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Default Re: pregnant women should stay in shame - 09-26-2008, 12:19 AM

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Nonsense! Obviously the Lord blessed her with a wise son because she hid her shameful stomach.
You are forgetting the fact that it was a man who did that to her.
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Default Re: pregnant women should stay in shame - 09-26-2008, 12:26 AM

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You are forgetting the fact that it was a man who did that to her.
Yes, it was a man who made her pregnant. He did it to make soldiers for Christ's glorious army, as the Lord commands.

We are talking about hiding the shame of being largely pregnant by not going out in public. We are not talking about the act of getting pregnant, there is nothing wrong with that. (As long as you are a True Christian, and married of course.


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Default Re: pregnant women should stay in shame - 09-26-2008, 02:20 AM

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I saw a pregnant woman on tv today and she was smiling!!!!!
It was like she was proud she had fornicated! That whore should realize it is a curse from God she has a big belly! She should cringe and hide!
Why would a woman walk around in public preggers???

Yess I bet YOUR mother thinks that way too, as we all do... maybe alot of people's mother here shouldnt have had sex...
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Default Re: pregnant women should stay in shame - 09-28-2008, 09:12 AM

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That whore should realize it is a curse from God she has a big belly!
Yes, it's a curse for her to have created another Christian.
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Default Re: pregnant women should stay in shame - 09-28-2008, 05:19 PM

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It's anything you want it to be Sister Sue!

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Default Re: pregnant women should stay in shame - 09-28-2008, 05:42 PM



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Default Re: pregnant women should stay in shame - 09-28-2008, 07:09 PM

Well you may take it as a insult that i come posting here, because i am a woman and not a true believer of your baptist church (and not english so again sorry for that)

I did not come here on the forum to mock your religion or anything in that matter, i come here to read and now i decided to post something in this thread

I have a daughter, and very very proud of it, and i always believed that having children was one of gods ways to make sure that we can continue existing, a prove of love between 2 people, all things that feel right and good
i never stayed at home during my pregnacy, even went to great events together with family and the father of the child

why should we be ashamed or anything like that at a time in our life that we feel extremely happy ? that's why i came here to post because i wanted this to know
i always thought that God was someone who treated everybody as equals ?
but here on this forum it all seems that the woman means nothing

if this would really offend any of you i'm sorry, but i stil want to know why you think this way
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Default Re: pregnant women should stay in shame - 09-28-2008, 07:55 PM

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I did not come here on the forum to mock your religion ...

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... why should we be ashamed or anything like that at a time in our life that we feel extremely happy ? that's why i came here to post because i wanted this to know

i always thought that God was someone who treated everybody as equals ?
but here on this forum it all seems that the woman means nothing

if this would really offend any of you i'm sorry, but i stil want to know why you think this way
Welcome to Landover Baptist Church, Libra, here are some reasons why we think this way ...

... for it is written ...

Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

1st Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

1st Corinthians 11:4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.

1st Corinthians 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.

1st Corinthians 11:6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.

1st Corinthians 11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.

1st Corinthians 11:8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.

1st Corinthians 11:9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.


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1st Timothy 2: 9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
1st Timothy 2: 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works ...


1 Timothy 5: 16 If any man or woman that believeth have widows, let them relieve them, and let not the church be charged; that it may relieve them that are widows indeed ...

Proverbs 31: 26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness ...
Proverbs 31: 27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness ...
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Default Re: pregnant women should stay in shame - 09-28-2008, 08:03 PM

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Welcome to Landover Baptist Church, Libra, here are some reasons why we think this way ...

... for it is written ...

Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

1st Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

1st Corinthians 11:4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.

1st Corinthians 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.

1st Corinthians 11:6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.

1st Corinthians 11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.

1st Corinthians 11:8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.

1st Corinthians 11:9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.


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1st Corinthians 11:2 to 11:16 is essentially saying that women shouldn't cut their hair since they would be seen as sexual objects(create lust).It has nothing to do with staying home and being an idiot.
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Default Re: pregnant women should stay in shame - 09-28-2008, 08:14 PM

i still can't see why we should be ashamed then
ok Genesis 3:16 says that bringing forth children will be our sorrow but doesn't that just mean that we will endure great pains DURING the time we give birth and not the whole pregnacy ?
and all other bibles verses you are mentioning here just mean that we have to obey the husband/man that we are nothing compared to them and all that stuff
but does it mean to lock ourself away and not be happy about having a child, that is created out of love and that connects us to eachother ?


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i still can't see why we should be ashamed then ...

... but does it mean to lock ourself away and not be happy about having a child, that is created out of love and that connects us to eachother ?
Whoever said anything about love? Where in those verses does the word love appear?

There are the words head and covered, dishonoureth, created and glory. But the words love and happy are not there.

Everything we do is to the glory of God, and in obedience to Jesus.

Have you ever read the Bible word for word, missy?


1st Timothy 2: 9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
1st Timothy 2: 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works ...


1 Timothy 5: 16 If any man or woman that believeth have widows, let them relieve them, and let not the church be charged; that it may relieve them that are widows indeed ...

Proverbs 31: 26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness ...
Proverbs 31: 27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness ...
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Default Re: pregnant women should stay in shame - 09-28-2008, 09:00 PM

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Whoever said anything about love? Where in those verses does the word love appear?

There are the words head and covered, dishonoureth, created and glory. But the words love and happy are not there.

Everything we do is to the glory of God, and in obedience to Jesus.

Have you ever read the Bible word for word, missy?
I get the part that women have to honour their husbands and obey that's not what i asked
But i believe that God wants us to love, get along, find a way to live together not that we strictly lock ourselfs up
it's not because the verses you posted for me doesn't metion these things that they are not allowed (that is how i feel about it)
You still haven't convinced me that next time i will be pregnant i should be ashamed and stay inside
i was proud carrying my daughter, and glad people could see, there must be verses in the bible that also state good things not only stuff about hiding ourselfs (maybe i have to get to the bookstore tomorrow and start reading so i can easily trow another verse into the discussion to show you i can be right to )

i have read the bible a very long time ago (i think that will be when i was 11 untill i was 15) at school we had a teacher who really made us read every bit of it and understand it, but i must admit that i forgot a lot of it (or actually everything)because later on at school i had another teacher, and she learned us to look more sceptical at the bible, that we must not take every word literaly and once she also stated that she actually did not believe in god
so our lessons became more about morals, others religions and stuff

so when this is about my christian education i think it was not the best one in your point of view


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I get the part that women have to honour their husbands and obey that's not what i asked
But i believe that God wants us to love, get along, find a way to live together not that we strictly lock ourselfs up
it's not because the verses you posted for me doesn't metion these things that they are not allowed (that is how i feel about it)
You still haven't convinced me that next time i will be pregnant i should be ashamed and stay inside
Libra, what the verses say, and mean, is in divine accordance with the Law of God:

That is to say, God is the head of the man, the man is the head of his wife, and the wife is subject to her husband and keeps herself covered; in dressing modestly; in keeping her tongue silent; in keeping herself chaste and subservient; and during the time of her confinement, in keeping herself confined and out of public view.

This is the way and the Law of God. According to the Law we don't grovel in our own personal happiness and vulgar pride, but instead we do the will of God in the way that will make Jesus happy with us, through obedience.

Oh and while you are at it, read the King James 1611 Bible in English, since this is Jesus' favorite, and the only true Bible (because all the other bibles are forgeries and sinful to read)


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1st Timothy 2: 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works ...


1 Timothy 5: 16 If any man or woman that believeth have widows, let them relieve them, and let not the church be charged; that it may relieve them that are widows indeed ...

Proverbs 31: 26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness ...
Proverbs 31: 27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness ...
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Default Re: pregnant women should stay in shame - 09-29-2008, 07:22 AM

Didn't God treat everybody the same ? Aren't we all equals ?
We all are Gods children, The Bible is Gods word but i'm not sure if it is the LAW, it's a guidance to a better life
I think that everybody that tries to find his of her own way to God (even on their own way) will be accepted by him

Actually I think I would never fit into your way of thinking, I'm not capable of keeping my mouth shut, when I have an opinion it's my right to say it out loud, that is called freedom of speech

Oh I started reading the bible in a year section, I guess that will do ?


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Default Re: pregnant women should stay in shame - 09-29-2008, 08:23 AM

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Didn't God treat everybody the same ? Aren't we all equals ?
What a ridiculous idea! Where did you hear that? The Holy Bible certainly doesn't support that crazy notion.

God hates plenty of folks, and He tells us in the Bible that Heaven will be sparsely populated, while hell will be crammed full. Shout Glory!! I know where I'm going.

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We all are Gods children, The Bible is Gods word but i'm not sure if it is the LAW, it's a guidance to a better life
I think that everybody that tries to find his of her own way to God (even on their own way) will be accepted by him
Again, you silly contention is supported nowhere in the Holy Bible. God certainly created us all, but He doesn't love us all. Take a look at the list in my signature for more details.

Unless a sinner repents, changes their sinful behavior, accepts Christ as their Personal Savior© and tithes robustly and with glee, they have no hope of spending eternity up in Heaven with Jesus, like I do.

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Actually I think I would never fit into your way of thinking, I'm not capable of keeping my mouth shut, when I have an opinion it's my right to say it out loud, that is called freedom of speech

Oh I started reading the bible in a year section, I guess that will do ?
You're probably right, but who knows? Jesus may reach out to you but probably not. We aren't even sure if women have a soul, so you've got that going against you from the start. Plus you're an unsaved eurotrash harlot with a bastard child and a disrespectful attitude.

I'd start studying those scriptures hard and fast if I were you. Jesus might decide to kill you any day now.


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Default Re: pregnant women should stay in shame - 09-29-2008, 09:52 AM

You look down on women that's something I learned fast enough
But when we are such a burden, only alive to carry your children then why do we exist ? Why did god allow us to get children ? He is God so why didn't he make the men getting the children ?
When we have no soul, then why baptise us and let us do (sorry I really don't know the english word for it) our "communie" twice, when there is no soul inside us to eventually go to heaven, then why make sure that our soul is blessed by God ?

When God is not capable of loving everybody, then why did he allow those people he despites to live ? Why did God not create a world with only those who he loves


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Default Re: pregnant women should stay in shame - 09-29-2008, 10:44 AM

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When God is not capable of loving everybody, then why did he allow those people he despites to live ? Why did God not create a world with only those who he loves
I think you are thinking too much on this. Who said God was a God of love? I have never found this in my studies of theology.

Creation is not a thing of God's love. As you said why would He do it if He was a God of love? The answer is simple, He didn't. Now stop your simpering young lady and lets get a few things straight. God is here and now. Our purpose in the plan is to make choices, the choices between good and evil; right and wrong. If we fail, then we burn. There is no love in that is there? And here we find the woman's place. We don't look down on women as you accuse. We understand that women are flawed and need to be guided. Was it not Eve that led Adam into temptation?

Please think on these things.




Exodus 22:18
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Default Re: pregnant women should stay in shame - 10-01-2008, 02:44 PM

let me say it in a different way, when God is not loving as you say, than why doesn't he punish those who aren't living His way ? Maybe another flood will do then ?
But I remember that the bible said that God would never use this tactic again (right?)


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