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Pray for persecuted Chinese Christians. -
07-08-2011, 08:31 PM
This story is so sad. It's no secret that the totalitarian chink dictatorship hates God and freedoms.
Still, I was under the impression that they were loosening up restrictions. Apparently not. From my link above.
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BEIJING (BP)--Despite restrictions due to the Chinese Communist Party's 90th anniversary, members of Shouwang Church in Beijing continued to meet outdoors July 3, leading to at least 19 arrests.
Church members defied the Chinese government for the 13th consecutive week with the outdoor service. The illegal church, which was evicted from its leased meeting space in April, reported in a translated statement on ChinaAid.org that police were waiting outside the church's designated worship site, an open-air plaza in northwest Beijing, and "only a few dozen people" were able to meet because, "many believers were under stricter detainment at home. Some individuals were taken to be detained in hotels nearby."
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So they are persecuting these Christians because their church is "illegal." The idea that the Chinese were getting easier on Christians comes with serious catches.
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Only churches who are registered with the government and are members of the Three-Self Patriotic Church are considered legal. However, with registration come regulations that forbid evangelism, Sunday School, and baptizing minors
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What!?
Oh sure. You can be a Christian in China as long as you follow the state sponsored brand of it. It would be akin to forcing Americans to join the Church of the Fearless Leader Obama.
Let's not give him any ideas.
Also Chinese Christians are not allowed to have Sunday School. How else can we teach children God's Word when they are young?
"Give me a child until he is seven and I will give you the man" Francis Xavier
How else are we supposed to get people to accept and understand the Bible? We need to be able to get them while they are young and impressionable. We also need a setting where all their peers are doing it too, so they don't feel different or ostracized.
No Baptism of minors either? That's truly horrible. My children were all Baptized by Pastor Zeke himself on their eighth birthday. It's a beautiful thing that we can extract an oath from our children in Church with their elders and peers watching that they will be Christians forever and that there's no turning back once they do this.
The families that wait until their children are in their teens before Baptism gives them a "cooling off period" where they are more likely to be seduced by the world or be less interested in God. They don't get much more excited for Jesus than when they are between the ages of 8 and 10. Shout glory!
The worst thing those people do to hamstring their believers with is the inability to evangelize. Oh, okay. I can be a Christian as long as I don't follow what Jesus said!!! You may consider it rude for us to go door knocking, Mao, but it's our duty as Christians to:
Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
These restrictions the Chinese government has put on Christians are simply unconscionable, draconian and damns their followers to hell if they follow the rules even though they are to follow the rules as per Romans and 2 Peter.
So I would like to exhort you all to pray that God softens the hearts of the Chinese government or that He hardens them and unleashes plagues on the damned communists.
In Christ,
Pastor Will.
Praise and worship with Pastor Will. Services at 9 a.m., 11 a.m. and 6 p.m.
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Re: Pray for persecuted Chinese Christians. -
07-08-2011, 11:49 PM
This story may seem upsetting, but it's actually not so bad. Remember, due to their little yellow eyes, a Chinaman could never read more than a third of any given page of the Bible anyway. That means that it's 13% harder for an Oriental to be saved than it is for a woman, and you know how rare it is for that to happen.
O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.
God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.
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Re: Pray for persecuted Chinese Christians. -
07-09-2011, 05:24 AM
A slant just can't comprehend the full breadth and majesty of God.
I hand out KJV1611 Bibles all over Godless Japan, but have few if any souls I can show for my trouble.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Pray for persecuted Chinese Christians. -
07-10-2011, 06:50 PM
I think if a gook thinks he wants to be a Christian, let him.
I do think it is a little cruel if they actually think they are going to get in to Heaven though.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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07-10-2011, 06:55 PM
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I think if a gook thinks he wants to be a Christian, let him.
I do think it is a little cruel if they actually think they are going to get in to Heaven though.
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Yea, those little yellow monkeys will imitate anything they see. Of course they don't understand what they're doing. But they do love copying anything they see from God's favorite country.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Pray for persecuted Chinese Christians. -
07-11-2011, 03:45 AM
My heart goes out to those poor souls
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07-11-2011, 03:47 AM
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My heart goes out to those poor souls
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I'm not actually certain that slopes have souls.
Please make a thread of your own in the " Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Pray for persecuted Chinese Christians. -
07-13-2011, 06:13 PM
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Yea, those little yellow monkeys will imitate anything they see. Of course they don't understand what they're doing. But they do love copying anything they see from God's favorite country.
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That's funny, seeing as god isn't even American. God's favorite country my [CENSORED], maybe he just likes America so much because we're all so gullible and buy into this propaganda [CENSORED].
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Re: Pray for persecuted Chinese Christians. -
07-13-2011, 06:46 PM
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That's funny, seeing as god isn't even American. God's favorite country my [CENSORED], maybe he just likes America so much because we're all so gullible and buy into this propaganda [CENSORED].
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Re: Pray for persecuted Chinese Christians. -
07-15-2011, 03:51 AM
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I'm not actually certain that slopes have souls.
Please make a thread of your own in the " Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.
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I don't think they do either Pastor. Jesus was White.
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Re: Pray for persecuted Chinese Christians. -
07-15-2011, 04:07 AM
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I don't think they do either Pastor. Jesus was White.
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Correction: Jesus IS White.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Pray for persecuted Chinese Christians. -
09-12-2011, 01:12 AM
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Pastor, now I know you are just being modest - I read this article about how the slopes are now all converting to Christ. There's literally millions of the little yellow buggers! I really had no idea you touched so many of them on your trips !
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14838749
It is impossible to say how many Christians there are in China today, but no-one denies the numbers are exploding. The government says 25 million, 18 million Protestants and six million Catholics. Independent estimates all agree this is a vast underestimate. A conservative figure is 60 million. There are already more Chinese at church on a Sunday than in the whole of Europe.
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09-12-2011, 02:18 AM
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Pastor, now I know you are just being modest - I read this article about how the slopes are now all converting to Christ. There's literally millions of the little yellow buggers! I really had no idea you touched so many of them on your trips !
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Well, I am full of the Holy Spirit.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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