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Default Is it okay for me to have more than one wife? - 05-02-2010, 01:09 AM

I was reading about how Jacob was married to Leah and Rachel, and had two maidservants in the Bible "
Genesis 29 (King James Version)


Genesis 29


1Then Jacob went on his journey, and came into the land of the people of the east.
2And he looked, and behold a well in the field, and, lo, there were three flocks of sheep lying by it; for out of that well they watered the flocks: and a great stone was upon the well's mouth.
3And thither were all the flocks gathered: and they rolled the stone from the well's mouth, and watered the sheep, and put the stone again upon the well's mouth in his place.
4And Jacob said unto them, My brethren, whence be ye? And they said, Of Haran are we.
5And he said unto them, Know ye Laban the son of Nahor? And they said, We know him.
6And he said unto them, Is he well? And they said, He is well: and, behold, Rachel his daughter cometh with the sheep.
7And he said, Lo, it is yet high day, neither is it time that the cattle should be gathered together: water ye the sheep, and go and feed them.
8And they said, We cannot, until all the flocks be gathered together, and till they roll the stone from the well's mouth; then we water the sheep.
9And while he yet spake with them, Rachel came with her father's sheep; for she kept them.
10And it came to pass, when Jacob saw Rachel the daughter of Laban his mother's brother, and the sheep of Laban his mother's brother, that Jacob went near, and rolled the stone from the well's mouth, and watered the flock of Laban his mother's brother.
11And Jacob kissed Rachel, and lifted up his voice, and wept.
12And Jacob told Rachel that he was her father's brother, and that he was Rebekah's son: and she ran and told her father.
13And it came to pass, when Laban heard the tidings of Jacob his sister's son, that he ran to meet him, and embraced him, and kissed him, and brought him to his house. And he told Laban all these things.
14And Laban said to him, Surely thou art my bone and my flesh. And he abode with him the space of a month.
15And Laban said unto Jacob, Because thou art my brother, shouldest thou therefore serve me for nought? tell me, what shall thy wages be?
16And Laban had two daughters: the name of the elder was Leah, and the name of the younger was Rachel.
17Leah was tender eyed; but Rachel was beautiful and well favoured.
18And Jacob loved Rachel; and said, I will serve thee seven years for Rachel thy younger daughter.
19And Laban said, It is better that I give her to thee, than that I should give her to another man: abide with me.
20And Jacob served seven years for Rachel; and they seemed unto him but a few days, for the love he had to her.
21And Jacob said unto Laban, Give me my wife, for my days are fulfilled, that I may go in unto her.
22And Laban gathered together all the men of the place, and made a feast.
23And it came to pass in the evening, that he took Leah his daughter, and brought her to him; and he went in unto her.
24And Laban gave unto his daughter Leah Zilpah his maid for an handmaid.
25And it came to pass, that in the morning, behold, it was Leah: and he said to Laban, What is this thou hast done unto me? did not I serve with thee for Rachel? wherefore then hast thou beguiled me?
26And Laban said, It must not be so done in our country, to give the younger before the firstborn.
27Fulfil her week, and we will give thee this also for the service which thou shalt serve with me yet seven other years.
28And Jacob did so, and fulfilled her week: and he gave him Rachel his daughter to wife also.
29And Laban gave to Rachel his daughter Bilhah his handmaid to be her maid.
30And he went in also unto Rachel, and he loved also Rachel more than Leah, and served with him yet seven other years.
31And when the LORD saw that Leah was hated, he opened her womb: but Rachel was barren.
32And Leah conceived, and bare a son, and she called his name Reuben: for she said, Surely the LORD hath looked upon my affliction; now therefore my husband will love me.
33And she conceived again, and bare a son; and said, Because the LORD hath heard I was hated, he hath therefore given me this son also: and she called his name Simeon.
34And she conceived again, and bare a son; and said, Now this time will my husband be joined unto me, because I have born him three sons: therefore was his name called Levi. 35And she conceived again, and bare a son: and she said, Now will I praise the LORD: therefore she called his name Judah; and left bearing.


So does this mean I can marry someone else in addition to Leslie?

God I wish I had a cool name like Nahor or Laban!
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Default Re: Is it okay for me to have more than one wife? - 05-02-2010, 01:48 AM

You claim to be a Christian?

What does secular law say?

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1 Peter 2:13
Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man.

Romans 13:1-2
Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil


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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: Is it okay for me to have more than one wife? - 05-02-2010, 12:13 PM

Why on earth would anyone want more than one of the yapping females? As it is I go through a roll of duct tape a week keeping the one I have quiet.
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Default Re: Is it okay for me to have more than one wife? - 05-02-2010, 03:07 PM

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You claim to be a Christian?

What does secular law say?
Pastor, I'm confused. I understand from this that the Bible states that we must follow secular law. But secular law in Iowa, for example, allows homers to "marry". And yet the Bible makes it clear that homers are evil-doers who should burn in hell.

I do not wish to submit myself to this ordinance of man. Does that make me a sinner? But would I not be a sinner if I did submit myself to this ordinance of man?

This is all very confusing.
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Pastor, I'm confused. I understand from this that the Bible states that we must follow secular law. But secular law in Iowa, for example, allows homers to "marry". And yet the Bible makes it clear that homers are evil-doers who should burn in hell.

I do not wish to submit myself to this ordinance of man. Does that make me a sinner? But would I not be a sinner if I did submit myself to this ordinance of man?

This is all very confusing.
Which is precisely why we at Landover Baptist Church have been fighting to keep queers from destroying traditional (Normal) marriage. I have all manner of perverts hounding me to marry them now, but I refuse in the name of Jesus!


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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Why on earth would anyone want more than one of the yapping females? As it is I go through a roll of duct tape a week keeping the one I have quiet.
Some men are man enough to have more than one wife.and they are wise enough to marry Godly wives that obey their husbands.Now you know why.
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MatthewChapter 196: Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. THESE ARE THE WORDS OF JESUS...WHICH MAKES THEM THE WORDS OF GOD.ActsChapter 529: Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.HERE IS SCRIPTURE PROOF... IT IS ACCEPTABLE TO GOD TO OBEY HIS WORD OVER ANY MAN MADE LAW THAT IS CONTRARY TO GOD'S WORD.Acts, Chapter 91: And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest, 2: And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem. ActsChapter 2128: Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place. ActsChapter 223: I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day. 4: And I persecuted this way unto the death, binding and delivering into prisons both men and women. 5: As also the high priest doth bear me witness, and all the estate of the elders: from whom also I received letters unto the brethren, and went to Damascus, to bring them which were there bound unto Jerusalem, for to be punished. 6: And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me. 7: And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? 8: And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest. HERE IS PROOF THAT THE MAN PAUL(WHOM YOU QUOTE AND USE AS A REFERENCE AND AS YOUR STANDARD THAT MAN CAN NOT HAVE MORE THAN ONE WIFE) NOT ONLY INFORCED MAN'S LAW UPON THOSE WHO DISOBEYED MAN'S LAW BY OBEYING GOD'S LAW BUT THAT EVEN JESUS INTERVENED AND PUT A STOP TO HIM DOING SO...THEN HERE HE IS IN ACT CHAPTER 22...BEING CHARGED BY MEN FOR BREAKING MAN'S LAW...THE SAME LAWS THAT HE HIMSELF CHARGED OTHERS FOR DOING TILL JESUS STOPPED HIM.NOW HERE YOU ARE QUOTING THIS SAME MAN AS IF HE WAS GOD PREACHING THAT MAN'S LAW OVERRIDES GOD'S WORD.THIS IS GOD'S WORD IN THE NEW TESTAMENTMatthewChapter 196: Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. ActsChapter 529: Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.HERE IS SCRIPTURE PROOF... IT IS ACCEPTABLE TO GOD TO OBEY HIS WORD OVER ANY MAN MADE LAW THAT IS CONTRARY TO GOD'S WORD.YOU LOSE AGAIN.THE LORD IS GOD...NOT YOU OR PAUL OR ANYONE ELSE.AND IF ANYONE THAT SAYS THAT THEY SPEAK GOD'S WORDS BUT CONTRADICTS JESUS WITH THOSE WORDS...IS A LIAR.I SHALL NOT HAVE TO BATTLE YOU AGAIN ON THIS SUBJECT...YOU CAN NOT OVER COME WHAT I HAVE SAID.AND THE SCRIPTURES OF TRUTH I HAVE STATED THAT DEFEAT THE WORDS OF PAUL AND YOUR WORDS THAT YOU USE AS YOUR REASON TO PUT A YOKE ON A MAN TO RESTRAIN HIM FROM HAVING HIS GOD GIVEN RIGHT OF MORE THAN ONE WIFE.I TOLD YOU THAT I NEVER EVER LOSE...BUT IF YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE GOD...YOU SURELY WILL NOT BELIEVE ME...JESUS SAID THAT.I AM THE LORD'S CHAMPION.THE LORD IS GOD.
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Some men are man enough to have more than one wife.and they are wise enough to marry Godly wives that obey their husbands.Now you know why.
So run off and join the fundamental Mormons if you think that's your role in life. Although the OT speaks of multiple wives, Paul makes it fairly clear that we are only marry to procreate and because we are too weak to be celibate like him.


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Which is precisely why we at Landover Baptist Church have been fighting to keep queers from destroying traditional (Normal) marriage. I have all manner of perverts hounding me to marry them now, but I refuse in the name of Jesus!
Amen Pastor Ezekiel. It was a question to be entertained based off of what I now know to be an evil demon who told me that I was able to entertain more than one woman based off of the Bible.. I too now doth seeth the light and will be loyal to my one and only wife, treating her with the dignity and respect owed her by a True Christian husband.
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So run off and join the fundamental Mormons if you think that's your role in life. Although the OT speaks of multiple wives, Paul makes it fairly clear that we are only marry to procreate and because we are too weak to be celibate like him.
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Which is precisely why we at Landover Baptist Church have been fighting to keep queers from destroying traditional (Normal) marriage. I have all manner of perverts hounding me to marry them now, but I refuse in the name of Jesus!
I seem to have that problem too.
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Default Re: Is it okay for me to have more than one wife? - 05-04-2010, 05:46 AM

i dont understand y you would need more than one but that is a good question. i'm going to take a look at this.
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Default Re: Is it okay for me to have more than one wife? - 05-07-2010, 04:39 AM

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Why on earth would anyone want more than one of the yapping females? As it is I go through a roll of duct tape a week keeping the one I have quiet.
Good point. I am sure that the five god-fearing members of the Supreme Court (Alito, Roberts, Scalia,Kennedy, and the colored guy) would rule that it is cruel and inhuman punishment to have to put up with two wives.
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Good point. I am sure that the five god-fearing members of the Supreme Court (Alito, Roberts, Scalia,Kennedy, and the colored guy) would rule that it is cruel and inhuman punishment to have to put up with two wives.
An old joke my father used to say...

"Gods punishment for polygamy is multiple mother-in-laws"

For some reason my mother didn't think it was funny


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Default Re: Is it okay for me to have more than one wife? - 06-07-2010, 12:31 PM

but surely when a husband dies a brother must take responsibility?


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but surely when a husband dies a brother must take responsibility?
will you back that statement up with scripture?


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if brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger: her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of an husbands brother unto her.


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Default Re: Is it okay for me to have more than one wife? - 06-07-2010, 04:03 PM

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if brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger: her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of an husbands brother unto her.
#1) That's not Scripture.

#2) The Bible demands that we obey secular laws as well. I guess over in the country of Africa you can marry as many wives as you like, but Here in God's favorite country (AMERICA!) we can't.


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Default Re: Is it okay for me to have more than one wife? - 06-07-2010, 04:31 PM

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#1) That's not Scripture.

#2) The Bible demands that we obey secular laws as well. I guess over in the country of Africa you can marry as many wives as you like, but Here in God's favorite country (AMERICA!) we can't.

#1 - sorry for that. this blogging is still very much new to me. sometimes i get confused.

#2 - unfortunately we still do not have the freedom of marrying only as many wifes as we like. we still live under the yoke of having to marry when a brother dies. it is very painfull as we are currently running out of brothers and the ones dying also leave the ones they have taken aboard. the cleaning ceremony for the widows by all us brothers in itself is very strenuous i tell you.

one day perhaps my church will be so powerfull that i can come to atlanta and settle down and only marry whomever i choose. (yes i dream too of gods favourite country)


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Default Re: Is it okay for me to have more than one wife? - 06-07-2010, 10:02 PM

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but surely when a husband dies a brother must take responsibility?
People, he's right. He's just trying to word it in a way that mocks God.

Deuteronomy 25:5 If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger: her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of an husband's brother unto her.

If a woman dies childless, it is up to the husbands brother to marry her and produce an heir for the belated husband. Now of course this only works if the B-I-L is unmarried at the time of the husbands death. Of course the best way of avoiding this is for the first husband to produce an heir ASAP. I'm not exactly sure what to do if the B-I-L is already married.


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