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Mark 7: Jesus rebukes anti-infanticide heretics -
04-23-2008, 06:48 PM
Mark 7
9And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
10For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
12And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
13Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
I love this verse because it transcends time. Just as Jesus condemns the liberal kikes for refusing to enforce His eternal laws, he also reaches across the milennia to pimp-slap modern day "Christians" who claim that those laws are no longer relevant or that the God of the Old Testament and the God of the New Testament have nothing in common.
Jesus is telling all of us that He has never changed nor will He ever: God was and is an endlessly jealous, vengeful, loving, compassionate, and all-powerful Creator. Praise Him.
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Re: Mark 7: Jesus rebukes anti-infanticide heretics -
04-23-2008, 11:42 PM
Allow me to cry VERSE TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT!
ACTS 5:29
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But Peter and the apostles said in reply, "We must obey God rather than men."
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There you have it-so WHAT'S STOPPING YOU COWARDS?
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Re: Mark 7: Jesus rebukes anti-infanticide heretics -
04-23-2008, 11:49 PM
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Allow me to cry VERSE TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT!
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You'll be crying alot louder when satan is peeling you like a grape for all eternity in hell. God will not be mocked, papist!!
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Mark 7: Jesus rebukes anti-infanticide heretics -
04-24-2008, 10:28 PM
That's a beautiful passage of scripture, Sister Templeton.
I can think of no better way to separate the True™ from the False Christian than by applying "Mark's 7-Inch Razor." "Do you make the word of God of none effect through your tradition?" If so, verily you are a False Christian, and God shall cut you as a boil from the Body of Christ.
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Re: Mark 7: Jesus rebukes anti-infanticide heretics -
08-10-2008, 08:53 PM
Jesus's point was not that disobedient children should be stoned. His point was that the Pharisees and rabbis who accused him of modifying Old Testament law themselves were hypocrites who themselves modified Old Testament law. This is quite clear from Mark 7:15, in which Jesus says, in defense of his disciples who did not wash their hands before eating,
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There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
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This is a direct abrogation of Old Testament law.
We see confirmation that Jesus does not believe in capital punishment in John 8:3-13, in which he refused to stone the adulterous woman, but rather released her with the command to "sin no more."
So I am glad to hear that Mark 7 is one of your favorite passages in the Bible, as it is 100% against capital punishment. However, I do recommend that you wash your hands before each meal.
...as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you. And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity. Colossians 3:12-14 (emphasis mine)
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Re: Mark 7: Jesus rebukes anti-infanticide heretics -
08-10-2008, 10:42 PM
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We see confirmation that Jesus does not believe in capital punishment in John 8:3-13, in which he refused to stone the adulterous woman, but rather released her with the command to "sin no more."
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Did you study the Bible at all? Or was it all fluffy bunny stuff and "Jesus says you can do anything"?
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So I am glad to hear that Mark 7 is one of your favorite passages in the Bible, as it is 100% against capital punishment.
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No, it's about God's ability to forgive and grant Salvation.
And look at this:
Matt 10:20-22 (KJV)
20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you. 21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death. 22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
He knows there will be death sentences ahead: He does not advise avoiding them or protesting them.
Added to this, if Jesus had avoided the Death Sentence, and there's no denying that he could have done, none of us would have been Saved would we? (Not that bothers you, you'll be roasting in the pit, trying to pretend to your deluded followers that its a Burning Man Festival or something equally fatuous.)
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Re: Mark 7: Jesus rebukes anti-infanticide heretics -
08-12-2008, 02:23 AM
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Did you study the Bible at all? Or was it all fluffy bunny stuff and "Jesus says you can do anything"?
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I studied plenty of Bible that didn't deal in bunnies. And Koran, and Sutras, and Vedas, and a great deal more, besides. I liked the writings of Baha'u'allah the best, but there is wisdom to be found in all.
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Matt 10:20-22 (KJV)... He knows there will be death sentences ahead: He does not advise avoiding them or protesting them.
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But He doesn't advise inflicting them, either. Matthew 10 deals with killings that will be inflicted upon Christians for their beliefs, not suggestions for Christians to follow, and you well know it. I, too, believe there are things worth dying for, but that does not give me the right to make others die for their different beliefs.
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if Jesus had avoided the Death Sentence, and there's no denying that he could have done, none of us would have been Saved would we?
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I might quibble with you on the specifics, but I have no doubt that, through His death, Jesus brought spiritual enlightenment to the world. But one death was enough:
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For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.
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(Not that bothers you, you'll be roasting in the pit, trying to pretend to your deluded followers that its a Burning Man Festival or something equally fatuous.)
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Originally Posted by Romans 10:6
But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven?
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No bunnies in Romans 10:6.
...as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you. And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity. Colossians 3:12-14 (emphasis mine)
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Re: Mark 7: Jesus rebukes anti-infanticide heretics -
08-12-2008, 02:57 AM
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I studied plenty of Bible that didn't deal in bunnies. No bunnies in Romans 10:6.
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You know there’s that Papist Mr Martin, who comes around from time to time and protests that verses are taken out of context. He may never have read KJV1611 in his life but, his protest, though inaccurate as far as Landover goes, is remarkably applicable to you.
Did you bother reading all of Romans 10 or did you fall asleep in that lesson? Indeed, there are no bunnies in that Chapter. There is a stark choice. For here we have Paul speaking of the Joos. Paul is saying, “Don’t give up on them, they may yet be converted and surprise us all. Thus some might go to heaven and some to hell and only Christ will judge.” (Indeed they might, and I wish they were, but it has taken an inordinate amount of time so far without any great effect.).”
This being the case, and I think Paul knew he was being optimistic in the short term, as he goes on to say,
Ro:10:16: But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
Ro:10:17: So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Ro:10:18: But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.
Ro:10:19: But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you.
Ro:10:20: But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.
Ro:10:21: But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.
Now we have his true meaning; we too should be optimistic but those joos who do not convert are on the down elevator.
So unless you are saying that you have converted to True Christianity™ my suggestion is that if you want someone to speak to in the afterlife, start learning Hebrew.
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Re: Mark 7: Jesus rebukes anti-infanticide heretics -
08-13-2008, 02:28 AM
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Did you bother reading all of Romans 10 or did you fall asleep in that lesson?
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I read the whole thing. Many times. The reason I quoted form this chapter isn't that I approve of all of its contents. In fact, there is much in the writings of Paul that I find reprehensible, and the antisemitism in Romans 10 takes pride of place in that parade. I only quoted Romans 10 to show that you, who claim to follow the whole Bible, should not be thinking about who is going to go to Hell and who to Heaven, a rule that you seem to break with virtually every post you make in this thread.
So it is your hypocrisy, not my approval of Paul's prejudice, that led me to that verse. But please, if I am wrong about Romans 10:6, explain to me how you apply its lesson in your life as a True Christian™.
...as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you. And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity. Colossians 3:12-14 (emphasis mine)
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Re: Mark 7: Jesus rebukes anti-infanticide heretics -
08-13-2008, 02:49 AM
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You know, that pretty much says it all. I'd stop to point out all of the parts of Ba'hai scripture that wouldn't neatly fit into your "everything is beautiful" Unitarianism, but I have bigger fish to fry than the Ba'hai, and they'll have plenty of time to fry without my assistance once they're in Hell.
Thank you, Brother Bathfire, for reminding us that there is more to the Bible than the parts that Boreking likes. If he is going to call Paul antisemitic for Romans 10:6, let him not forget that the Jews tried to have Paul killed. Several times. Let him remember also the words of Jesus himself:
Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. Matthew 23:33-36
So, Starrking, you say you are a Christian. Do you condemn Jesus as an anti-Semite, because Jesus literally condemned the Jews from A to Z. Chew on that one before you go around accusing True Christians™ of hypocrisy.
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Re: Mark 7: Jesus rebukes anti-infanticide heretics -
08-23-2008, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Virginia D. Templeton
Mark 7
9And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
10For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
12And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
13Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
I love this verse because it transcends time. Just as Jesus condemns the liberal kikes for refusing to enforce His eternal laws, he also reaches across the milennia to pimp-slap modern day "Christians" who claim that those laws are no longer relevant or that the God of the Old Testament and the God of the New Testament have nothing in common.
Jesus is telling all of us that He has never changed nor will He ever: God was and is an endlessly jealous, vengeful, loving, compassionate, and all-powerful Creator. Praise Him.
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Re: Mark 7: Jesus rebukes anti-infanticide heretics -
08-23-2008, 05:25 AM
I defile myself to this picture.
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