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  • #46
    Re: Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?

    Originally posted by dudemon223 View Post
    if that's true why did god specificaly point out a pagan samaritan as our neighbor more over why did he save the samaritan woman at the well
    Are you saying that God did not know in advance that the heathen would see the light and come to Jesus?

    YIC
    1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

    Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

    Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

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    • #47
      Re: Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?

      You have completely misrepresented what this parable has meant to Christians for almost 2,000 years.
      Christ was illustrating that men who should have been neighbors weren't, but the man who should have been an enemy was the true neighbor. Like the Samaritan, we are called to be a neighbor to all men, because God created us all in His image. He sees Himself in all of us, So, we, too, must see God in EVERYONE else.

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      • #48
        Re: Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?

        Originally posted by Vivisimo View Post
        You have completely misrepresented what this parable has meant to Christians for almost 2,000 years.
        Christ was illustrating that men who should have been neighbors weren't, but the man who should have been an enemy was the true neighbor. Like the Samaritan, we are called to be a neighbor to all men, because God created us all in His image. He sees Himself in all of us, So, we, too, must see God in EVERYONE else.
        Hi, and welcome to our forums! Can you support this silly idea with Scripture, or is this what you've simply been taught?

        Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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        • #49
          Re: Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?

          Originally posted by Vivisimo View Post
          You have completely misrepresented what this parable has meant to Christians for almost 2,000 years.
          Christ was illustrating that men who should have been neighbors weren't, but the man who should have been an enemy was the true neighbor. Like the Samaritan, we are called to be a neighbor to all men, because God created us all in His image. He sees Himself in all of us, So, we, too, must see God in EVERYONE else.
          Hello, and welcome to our forum. I look forward to fellowshipping with you. However, if you expect your opinions to be taken seriously, you will need to support them with Holy Scripture.

          We follow the Word of God, not sassy-mouthed know-it-alls from the internet. Thanks for your attention to this matter.

          Deuteronomy 12:32
          What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.
          II Thessalonians 1:7-9
          And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
          In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
          Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power



          The man who is being progressively sanctified will inescapably sanctify his home, school, politics, economics, science, and all things else by understanding and interpreting all things in terms of the Word of God and by bringing all things under the Dominion of Christ the King. -R.J. Rushdoony

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          • #50
            Re: Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?

            Originally posted by Vivisimo View Post
            You have completely misrepresented what this parable has meant to Christians for almost 2,000 years.
            Christ was illustrating that men who should have been neighbors weren't, but the man who should have been an enemy was the true neighbor. Like the Samaritan, we are called to be a neighbor to all men, because God created us all in His image. He sees Himself in all of us, So, we, too, must see God in EVERYONE else.
            As you have yourself pointed out, the wretches in question were not neighbours. God did not say Love thy neighbour and love everyone else too did He? There is a clear distinction drawn. Otherwise why make any distinction at all?


            LEVITICUS 19
            18
            Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.
            KJV


            MARK 12
            31
            And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
            KJV



            Notice how in Leviticus the distinction is made again: nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. If retribution were not to be taken against anyone at all, why specify the children of thy people? Are you suggesting that the Amalekites were included in that? Sure, they lived next door but they were not neighbours. Or Jericho? Or Ai? All wiped out to the last baby. Such historical events, recorded in the same Bible, endorsed by the same God, described using the same language as Jesus used, do not support your position.

            Where are you getting your information about God?


            .An early encounter with the Amalekites
            ..The annihilation of Jericho
            ...Ai blasted
            ....Mark 12
            .....Leviticus 19

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            • #51
              Re: Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?

              I enjoyed reading this, thank-you.

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              • #52
                Re: Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?

                Originally posted by Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson View Post
                These are questions we are often asked here and I wanted to write this sermon to clear up many misconceptions that people seem to have about certain passages.

                Love your neighbor, meanie!

                Matthew 22:39 And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'

                They take this to mean that we are supposed to have a big hippie love-in with everyone we meet. The question I ask them is, who are our neighbors? Fortunately for us, Jesus was asked that exact same question.

                You may know it as the parable of the Good Samaritan. You may have known this story as a morality tale as that the least of us can be good and do good things for one another, but the story is actually a foundation upon which salvation lies.

                Please turn with me to Luke 10:25-37

                25And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
                26He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
                27And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
                28And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
                29But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbour?

                Most of us know the story of the Jewish man who was left for dead on the side of the road. Two Jews passed him by one was even a Levite priest, but a Samaritan (an unclean low person {John 4:9} who didn't believe in Judaism the same way the regular Jews did.) stopped to save him. Jesus ends the parable by asking this question in Luke 10:36-37

                36Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?
                37And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise

                Hallelujah! Our answer is clear. Only one of the three people was Jesus' neighbor.

                We are to love our neighbors as ourselves, but our neighbors are only those who display Christian love and kindness by doing God's will. The people who won't help the ministry of Christ are beyond our help and they will be cast into the fire.

                Like, aren't we supposed to love one another, man?

                John 13:34
                "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another."

                Again, this scripture taken out of context would make it sound like we are supposed to go around drawing hearts and writing love poetry to everyone we see on the streets when nothing could be further from the truth.

                To properly discern this saying of Jesus we have to take it into context. Who was Jesus speaking to when He gave us that commandment?

                The setting is during the last supper. Jesus is sitting there with His disciples. It was a closed event.

                You only need to look at the next verse to realize that Jesus didn't include everyone in this.

                By this shall all men (the rest of them or everyone else)know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

                We are to love our fellow Christians.

                But wait! I'm a Christian!

                Maybe you are maybe you aren't. We'll know soon enough. As Jesus tells us in Matthew 7:16-21

                16Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
                17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
                18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
                19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
                20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
                21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

                Only those who live Christianity in other words.

                But isn't everyone a "brother" or a "sister" by virtue that we are all related somehow?

                That would be an emphatic no. Jesus tells us that our own flesh and blood family cannot stand in the way of following Him.

                Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

                Not only did Jesus tell us to do this, but He followed it by denying his own mother and siblings. Please turn to Matthew 12:46-50 with me

                46While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.
                47Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
                48But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
                49And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
                50For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

                Jesus tells us that only those who follow Him are your brother and sisters.

                No, I'm sure I think I'm a Christian even though you're telling me I'm not.

                Thankfully, we have the Epistles to deal with this situation. If someone calls his/her self a brother or sister and they continue in sin, the Bible is specific how we are to treat them. Please see 1 Corinthians 5:9-13

                9I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
                10Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
                11But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
                12For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
                13But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.


                We are to shun you and ignore you. If you are preaching a Gospel other than what is in the Bible like coddling queers and other assorted sinners, we are to not listen to you. We are not allowed to greet you warmly much less let you into our home or we are culpable in your sins. Please see 2 John 1:9-11.

                9Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

                10If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
                11For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

                In summation, there are many verses about love in the Bible that are incorrectly attributed to mean that we are to love everyone no matter what. The Truth, as always, lies in God's Word.


                Thank you and God bless.

                I enjoyed reading.
                Thanks for this blessed teaching.

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                • #53
                  Re: Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?

                  How do you reconcile this with Matt 5:43-48, where we are clearly told to show love and do good to the just and unjust, good and evil?

                  43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor[g] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,[h] 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47 And if you greet your brethren[i] only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors[j] do so? 48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

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                  • #54
                    Re: Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?

                    Originally posted by ireadthebook View Post
                    How do you reconcile this with Matt 5:43-48, where we are clearly told to show love and do good to the just and unjust, good and evil?
                    A reasonable question, Dear Friend,

                    The greatest Love one can show is the Love that does the greatest good to people. The greatest good imaginable is to Live forever in Joy in Heaven with Jesus. We show the sinners how this is possible. Sinners resist the Good Message of Jesus very forcefully and often the message irritates them. There are many things that make people fail the entrance examination to Eternal Life with Jesus. Some examples are as follows:

                    1 Corinthians 6:9
                    Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

                    Now, it would be false teaching to tell these people, such as the effeminate, that they are OK and no matter what, a place in Heaven is guaranteed. That would be hating them. Instead, we love them enough to show them the True™ but exhausting path to Salvation.

                    Jesus rejects them if they reject Him (John 3:18). We love them and want what is best for them. They don't have to LIKE it. The Truth™ can be painful.


                    Yours in Christ,

                    Elmer
                    2 Kings 18:25 - Am I now come up without the LORD against this place to destroy it? The LORD said to me, Go up against this land, and destroy it.



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                    • #55
                      Re: Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?

                      Originally posted by ireadthebook View Post
                      How do you reconcile this with Matt 5:43-48, where we are clearly told to show love and do good to the just and unjust, good and evil?
                      Greetings Mr. Book. If you are a Christian or if you seek to learn about Christians and white people then you are in the right place. These are white people and Baptists who are highly skilled in the Christian religion. They are kind enough to tolerate me even though I am a Christian of a different sort. They believe I will go to Hell if they do not save me so they are trying to lead me to Jesus for my salvation. I am already a follower of Yeshua called Jesus but my other beliefs are anathema to them. Still, they allow me to participate and they will accept you too if you do not make them too angry.

                      They want you to introduce yourself in the introduction section. That is only polite and these Baptists are very polite.

                      Jah Guide
                      Trevor
                      Sing unto God, sing praises to his name: Extol him that rideth upon the heavens By his name JAH, and rejoice before him.-Psalms 68:4

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                      • #56
                        Re: Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?

                        Originally posted by ireadthebook View Post
                        How do you reconcile this with Matt 5:43-48, where we are clearly told to show love and do good to the just and unjust, good and evil?
                        Dear Godmocker;

                        Before you start flapping your unsaved pie hole around these godly pages, kindly take a look at THIS world-famous sermon from one of our most beloved True Christian(tm) Pastors.

                        YIC,

                        Pastor Ezekiel
                        Who Will Jesus Damn?

                        Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                        Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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