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Default Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us. - 04-17-2010, 09:47 PM

@hamablahblah why do u not Jesus?
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Default Re: Jesus is NOT a Zombie!!! - 04-17-2010, 09:49 PM

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With good reason. I have never once stated that judging is not in accordance to the Bible. I advocate (as rightly i should) Matthew 7:1-5 which states that we are to judge in a fair manner.
Thank you for your admission that we are free to judge.

Edit: Tell us more about yourself now that you have calmed down. What Church do you attend? What do you do for a living? Are you married?


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Default Re: Jesus is NOT a Zombie!!! - 04-17-2010, 09:58 PM

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We don't observe Jewish holidays.

Galatians 4: 9But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
10Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.
11I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
Thats not in context either. If you were to read Galatians 3, you would see that Paul is actually condemning them for putting these festivals above the word of God. The Torah never has been nor ever will be a book for salvational purposes. The bondage he is actually referring also is in a verse you forgot to mention. That would be Galatians 4:8 - 8Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those who by nature are not gods.

This infers they were still following paganism, and they needed to break free of that. The days, months, times and years actually are in relevance to Paganistic holidays that should not be followed (oh, yeah...don't you guys still do that?)
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Default Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us. - 04-17-2010, 10:01 PM

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@hamablahblah why do u not Jesus?
I do love Yeshua (hebrew for Jesus), thats why I follow his Torah. Faith without works is dead.

You should even know that my name infers love of Jesus. hamashiachagape means "the love of the messiah." Its written in Hebrew and Greek, just like the Bible.
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Default Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us. - 04-17-2010, 10:07 PM

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I do love Yeshua (hebrew for Jesus), thats why I follow his Torah. Faith without works is dead.

You should even know that my name infers love of Jesus. hamashiachagape means "the love of the messiah." Its written in Hebrew and Greek, just like the Bible.
That's interesting that you spoke of the Jots and tittles passage in Matthew 5.

How do you reconcile it against Titus 1?

10For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:
11Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.
12One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, the Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.
13This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
14Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
15Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
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Default Re: Jesus is NOT a Zombie!!! - 04-17-2010, 10:07 PM

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Thank you for your admission that we are free to judge.

Edit: Tell us more about yourself now that you have calmed down. What Church do you attend? What do you do for a living? Are you married?
You are free to judge fairly in a consistent manner that is not hypocritical. In other words, you may judge in such a way that you would not mind being judged yourself. In that sense, I believe that it is to good to use the Bible for judging (when its taken in context).

Well, I'm a messianic Jew. I attend a Messianic synagogue. I work a lot with Apologetics. And I am not married no. I used to play football, was a quarterback and tight end.
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Default Re: Jesus is NOT a Zombie!!! - 04-17-2010, 10:10 PM

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You are free to judge fairly in a consistent manner that is not hypocritical. In other words, you may judge in such a way that you would not mind being judged yourself. In that sense, I believe that it is to good to use the Bible for judging (when its taken in context).

Well, I'm a messianic Jew. I attend a Messianic synagogue. I work a lot with Apologetics. And I am not married no. I used to play football, was a quarterback and tight end.
Did we perhaps meet on facebook?


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Default Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us. - 04-17-2010, 10:10 PM

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That's interesting that you spoke of the Jots and tittles passage in Matthew 5.

How do you reconcile it against Titus 1?

10For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:
11Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.
12One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, the Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.
13This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
14Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
15Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
Not really that hard. yes "specially they of the circumcision" applies to the Jews. The ones that he is talking down however are the ones who are following the Talmudic tradition (commandments of men who turn from the truth (Yeshua)) Understanding that the Torah is the teachings of God, and not the legalism of man espoused by jews makes this an easy reconcile.
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Default Re: Jesus is NOT a Zombie!!! - 04-17-2010, 10:14 PM

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Did we perhaps meet on facebook?
I don't recall talking to you, no. Do we really have to wait 180 seconds to post? lol Any particular reasoning that you guys came up with 180 seconds?
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Default Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us. - 04-17-2010, 10:17 PM

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@hamablahblah please go u smell like tacos!
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Default Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us. - 04-17-2010, 10:21 PM

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Couldn't you come up with something better than "you smell like tacos?"
burritos then?


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Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

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Jocelyn, keep your distance its one of them Joo's, they are the ones that KILLED Jesus ( temporally anyway)
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Couldn't you come up with something better than "you smell like tacos?"
Why are you harassing little girls? Are you a Catholic priest?


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I don't recall talking to you, no. Do we really have to wait 180 seconds to post? lol Any particular reasoning that you guys came up with 180 seconds?
I can't help you shorten the time between posts. If you don't like 180 seconds between posts, it could be made 600.


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Default Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us. - 04-17-2010, 10:29 PM

Doesn't Peter call the law a yoke around our father's and our necks that we were unable to bear in Acts 15?
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Default Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us. - 04-17-2010, 10:31 PM

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burritos then?
yeah that makes it all better.

I don't necessarily have a problem with a site like this, as long as its kept in mind that we should bash bad ideas that the 21st century church has today. I think I can contribute to some humor around this forum in certain respects, and I hope to be able to educate at the same time.
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Default Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us. - 04-17-2010, 10:57 PM

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Doesn't Peter call the law a yoke around our father's and our necks that we were unable to bear in Acts 15?
I don't see that anywhere there. I see a dispute where some of the Pharisees are rebuked by Peter for trying to follow the Torah for salvational purposes.

In Acts 15, Paul tells the rest of the Disciples how to break in a Torah custom to the Gentiles. This pertains to the dietary laws. 19"It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. 21For Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath."

In the initial setting, it is stated that in order to make it easy for the set of Gentiles to understand the Torah (these Gentiles were completely ignorant of the Torah), we need to break it into them very slowly and carefully (feeding of milk, not meat, to the baby). If you notice in 21, he actually mentions something relevant to the practice of Moses (it is never mentioned to stray away from the teachings of Moses, rather it is stated that Moses was being preached). Galations 3:21 states - " 21Is Torah, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by Torah."
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I don't see that anywhere there. I see a dispute where some of the Pharisees are rebuked by Peter for trying to follow the Torah for salvational purposes.
It's as plain as the nose on your face.


5But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.

6And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.
7And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
8And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
9And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
10Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
11But we believe that through the grace of the LORD Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
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I can't help you shorten the time between posts. If you don't like 180 seconds between posts, it could be made 600.
ha, gotcha, no thanks . I was just wondering why you chose 180 seconds.
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