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Default Re: Why I Am Catholic - 09-20-2012, 07:59 PM

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Jesus doesn't have to. He is God not the pope you should know that.
Of course I know Jesus is God, silly: it says so right in the Bible (John 10:30)!



Where does it mention popes?

(Hint: it doesn't.)


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Default Re: Why I Am Catholic - 09-20-2012, 08:00 PM

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False beliefs anti Catholics have against the Churchurch is adamant in stopping this.
WE WORSHIP MARY- Not true. In the days of David the queen was the the mother of the king. By respecting the queen mother you were honoring the king. Jesus gave us Mary as our mother when he said, " John take my mother. Mary take John as your son." Jesus would honor his mother and if we like to be like Jesus and honor his mother we also honor him. Also Mary never said she was a goddess. She is the mother who prays for us to God. And she always leads us to God.
You pray to Mary. Please don't try to deny it.

http://www.catholic.org/prayers/prayer.php?s=31

Mary is a dead woman. (Ecclesiates 9:5) She is not "Mother of God"; Jesus was not half-Mary. He is all God. She was just the vessel.

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ALL PRIESTS RAPE BOYS AND HIDE IT.- Just because all kids go to school it does
not mean that all children are smart. There will always be a few bad people.
And for that we should pray for them. The church is adamant about this.
The Pope himself participated in covering up and enabling kiddie-rapists. Why would you respect him?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8587082.stm

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Pope Benedict XVI failed to act over complaints during the 1990s about a priest in the US who is thought to have abused some 200 deaf boys, victims say.
As head of the Vatican office dealing with sex abuses, the then Cardinal Ratzinger allegedly did not respond to letters from an archbishop on the case.
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THE CHURCH WAS STARTED BY PAGANS- Jesus started it. Peter his disciple helped
it to grow. If the Catholic church had never begun. There would be no schism
and therefore no Baptists.
Wrong. The early Christians weren't Catholics; they did not wear dresses and pray to Mary and engage in ritual cannibalism. Those are all later traditions of the Catholic Cult, post-Council of Trent.
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I am Catholic because never have I come across a church that emphasizes love for
all Christians and all of Gods creation.
So . .. that makes no sense whatsoever.
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I fully believe the Eucharist because call me crazy or not.
That's not a reason, either. Why do you believe that crackers and wine turn into flesh and blood in your tummy?

Why do you believe that a priest has the ability to call Jesus down from Heaven into a cracker for you to eat?


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You sir are meticulous. So it never flat out said that Jesus missed being with his Father but you know he did.
Considering Jesus is God, why would He miss Himself? Where do you get these ridiculous ideas?


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Default Re: Why I Am Catholic - 09-20-2012, 08:21 PM

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Considering Jesus is God, why would He miss Himself? Where do you get these ridiculous ideas?
Because of the Trinity. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Three persons, one God, and Man will never be able to understand that. Tis a mystery

Now you're right we do pray to Mary, but pray and worship are two different things. We pray and honor her.

"I am Catholic because never have I come across a church that emphasizes love for
all Christians and all of Gods creation."
As you pointed out it doesn't make since because it's written wrong. I meant "i haven't come across another church" meaning that the Catholic Church is the first church I've been to that emphasizes love for all Christians and all of Gods creation.

You're right the early Christians weren't Catholics. Jesus and all of his disciples were Jewish.

The pope is busy with the whole church. Why the bishops didn't take care of those boys I don't know. But instead of arguing why the pope and the bishops didn't take care of it, why didn't their teachers or friends and peers notice something wrong? They are just as responsible as the priests for prolonging the victims' suffering.

Mary was taken up body and soul. She isn't alive on earth but she is very much alive in heaven.

And there is a difference between my mother's oven and Mary's womb. For one Mary at the young age accepted to be pregnant and brought our savior onto earth. Cookies just relieve hunger.


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Default Re: Why I Am Catholic - 09-20-2012, 08:28 PM

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And when he is saying "Woman" to Mary it is not out of disrespect. He would never dishonor his mother which would violate the commandment t and therefore would make him imperfect. Jesus is the new Adam come to revive the world. And when he says "Woman " to Mary he is referring g to her as the new Eve.
You understand Mary was Jesus' mother, right?

And you do understand Eve was Adam's wife, right?

So you're telling us Jesus was married to his own mother!?!?!



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...Mary was taken up body and soul. She isn't alive on earth but she is very much alive in heaven...
And where does the Bible say that?


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But instead of arguing why the pope and the bishops didn't take care of it, why didn't their teachers or friends and peers notice something wrong? They are just as responsible as the priests for prolonging the victims' suffering.
That is sick.

You guys will do and say ANYTHING to excuse the child-raping crimes of the papists.

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Has she blamed the victims yet?


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You understand Mary was Jesus' mother, right?

And you do understand Eve was Adam's wife, right?

So you're telling us Jesus was married to his own mother!?!?!


Good gosh no! Ok who said that the re creation of the world had to be led by a married couple?! I ask you really. Yes I know she was his mother and heck no she was not married to Jesus.

And let me ask you something, "It might be hard to let go of the things that some priests have done, but have any of you looked at the good things that the good priests have done? Like open shelters, St. Vincent DePaul, and their work in advocating the pro life movement?
I will never blame the victims. RAPE IS WRONG! And I do not excuse nor deny the actions of priests who have raped or molested or have done anything that goes against the vows they took when they were ordained. But you can't blame EVERY priest because not every priest is a rapist. I also don't take up for the bishops who stood by silently or kept under wraps what the priests who did commit sin. They knew something wrong was being done and they did nothing. I feel horrible that there are people who do this! But this doesn't happen only inside the church, it happens outside of the church too!


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Good gosh no! Ok who said that the re creation of the world had to be led by a married couple?! I ask you really. Yes I know she was his mother and heck no she was not married to Jesus.

And let me ask you something, "It might be hard to let go of the things that some priests have done, but have any of you looked at the good things that the good priests have done? Like open shelters, St. Vincent DePaul, and their work in advocating the pro life movement?
I will never blame the victims. RAPE IS WRONG! And I do not excuse nor deny the actions of priests who have raped or molested or have done anything that goes against the vows they took when they were ordained. But you can't blame EVERY priest because not every priest is a rapist. I also don't take up for the bishops who stood by silently or kept under wraps what the priests who did commit sin. They knew something wrong was being done and they did nothing. I feel horrible that there are people who do this! But this doesn't happen only inside the church, it happens outside of the church too!
How do you know that? Has there been some papal survey of all the ordained priests that specifically asks if they have ever raped anyone? Have they all had extensive background checks? Have the members of their church been interviewed to see if they have been raped by their priest?

Of course not. Please stop making blanket statements that are unsupportable by facts.


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I am sorry but they are right...he is in HEAVEN with God the holy spirit and Jesus! God is not so cruel as to punish a child who died at birth. You should know and trust ghat God is not so unmerciful he is very merciful. That is why they said he isn't in limbo it should have been obvious to you he was now in heaven.
Weird. They were really sure. What made them change their minds? I can cope that he's in Hell. Why do you think he's in Heaven? He didn't accept Jesus.



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And where does the Bible say that?
It doesn't say that in the Bible but I know that there is some document that says this I just can't remember where.


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Default Re: Why I Am Catholic - 09-20-2012, 09:02 PM

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Has she blamed the victims yet?
A well respected priest on the papist-run cable show EWTN has already done that for us:
Father Benedict Groeschel, the host of Sunday Night Prime on EWTN, is under fire for his comments saying that priests who have allegedly sexually abused children are often seduced by their accusers.
Darned kids, always looking for a kindly man to rape them.





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It doesn't say that in the Bible but I know that there is some document that says this I just can't remember where.
It's not in any document. It's considered "Sacred Tradition" which is Latin for, "We conclude this must be true so that it fits with our dogma (this time the dogma of the Economy of Grace," another foundation of cathlic theology not found anywhere in the Holy Bible).


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Default Re: Why I Am Catholic - 09-20-2012, 09:19 PM

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Weird. They were really sure. What made them change their minds? I can cope that he's in Hell. Why do you think he's in Heaven? He didn't accept Jesus.
Haven't you heard OF "I Knew you before you were born?" God knew us therefore we know God on a soul deep connection. Plus the killing of the innocent, thats the definition of abortion. Read that word carefully, "Innocent" that means they haven't done any wrong.


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A well respected priest on the papist-run cable show EWTN has already done that for us:
Father Benedict Groeschel, the host of Sunday Night Prime on EWTN, is under fire for his comments saying that priests who have allegedly sexually abused children are often seduced by their accusers.
Darned kids, always looking for a kindly man to rape them.



Yeah so there's an idiot in the world, there's alot of those. Didn't say that everyone in the Church was a saint. Because its a church of sinners that want to become saints.


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Haven't you heard OF "I Knew you before you were born?" God knew us therefore we know God on a soul deep connection. Plus the killing of the innocent, thats the definition of abortion. Read that word carefully, "Innocent" that means they haven't done any wrong.
I can totally cope with God knowing the brat was destined to be a filthy sinner and deciding to just kill him and burn him forever or that he deserved to die to punish an ancestor.

What bugs me is that really convincing liars told my mother lies and pretended to be certain about stuff they didn't know to be true at all. She died thinking he was in some made up place called Limbo. If she'd known he was hated by God in His glory and deserved to burn in Hell I'm sure she'd have felt better.

So I want to know how they were so wrong yet so certain and how they can be certain about other stuff they claim is true but isn't in the Bible.



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Default Re: Why I Am Catholic - 09-20-2012, 09:28 PM

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It doesn't say that in the Bible but I know that there is some document that says this I just can't remember where.
Uh huh. On the other hand, the Bible DOES say this:

Revelation 22:18 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:"


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I can totally cope with God knowing the brat was destined to be a filthy sinner and deciding to just kill him and burn him forever or that he deserved to die to punish an ancestor.

What bugs me is that really convincing liars told my mother lies and pretended to be certain about stuff they didn't know to be true at all. She died thinking he was in some made up place called Limbo. If she'd known he was hated by God in His glory and deserved to burn in Hell I'm sure she'd have felt better.

So I want to know how they were so wrong yet so certain and how they can be certain about other stuff they claim is true but isn't in the Bible.
No mother would ever feel right knowing her child is in hell.


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Yeah so there's an idiot in the world, there's alot of those. Didn't say that everyone in the Church was a saint. Because its a church of sinners that want to become saints.
Maddie, dear, the catholic church identifies itself as being the very representative of Christ on earth, that priests act "in persona christi," or in the person of Christ. Where's the evidence of Christ in their lives? How can a church that is incapable of recognizing an unsaved monster in their ranks possibly follow God's Will? They don't know what God's Will is!


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