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Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! -
06-17-2014, 07:11 AM
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Oh come on, at least try making yourself look like something that didn't come from a stinking pile of crap! Reply properly, damnit! I'm having to rely on debate.org to prove how stupid God is!
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I'm sorry, your superior intelligence is too much for us. Your totally not-making-yourself-look-like-a-retard argument of "I. Don't. F*cking. Know." brought us to our knees (four dots with a curse word is just too much), then your coup-de-grâce argument "a F*CKING BOAT!" totally finished us.
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Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! -
06-24-2014, 11:18 PM
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Reason 11:
a. Atheists don't believe that anything created the universe.
b. This is silly because we exist! Something must have created us!
c. The Bible says that God created us.
d. So Christians are right!
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A. The Big Bang created the universe.
B. Evolution created us.
C. If we are going by that logic then, Spiderman is real.
D. No, you are not!!! GET ON MY LEVEL, N00B
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Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! -
06-24-2014, 11:48 PM
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A. The Big Bang created the universe...
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No. The "Big Bang" (actually, a bit of a misnomer, coined by Fred Hoyle, who disagreed with the hypothesis) is how the universe formed. The stuff of which the universe is made (what was "created") requires a different explanation (did it already exist, was it "summoned" to this dimension, etc.?) that present theory does not address.
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Again, no. Evolution is how we attained our present form, it says nothing about how life originated.
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No one (except some uninformed lunatic on the web) is claiming that Spiderman is real.
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Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! -
06-25-2014, 01:30 AM
If you believe that the Big Bang created the universe, you are just substituting one god for another. Why not go with the God who can save your soul?
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Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! -
06-27-2014, 06:03 PM
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If you believe that the Big Bang created the universe, you are just substituting one god for another. Why not go with the God who can save your soul?
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Why would the Big Bang be a 'God'? It's just a process. Something probably led to the Big Bang, and something probably preceded that as well. Who knows. There's no dogma surrounding it. It's a pretty good guess at this point based on what we know, and there's plenty of scientists who perhaps push the fine details of that theory (inflation, etc) a bit too far, but it sounds good enough for now and given how much we don't actually know (which is a lot), and yet also DO know, it fits damned well. But, that all being said, much of what we have learned about the Big Bang has come by accident or as a result of investigation into the various facts surrounding gravity, particle physics, etc, so it's a process that also cannot be ignored. The fact that you weigh as much as you do and have detectable particles of a certain known property flowing through your body at this very moment point to the fact of the Big Bang as we know it. Much of our knowledge of physics has pointed towards something like the Big Bang, so when the Cosmic Background Radiation was discovered (by accident), it was a bombshell.
As for saving one's soul..... From what? Keep in mind, for us non-religious or atheists (and everybody else, including you), a 'soul' is simply a religious/philosophical concept. It has no basis in actual reality. It's great that your Bible tells you that you have one, but that doesn't mean you do, so 'so what' if that book thinks I need to save it from something?
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Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! -
06-27-2014, 06:31 PM
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Why would the Big Bang be a 'God'?...
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It becomes a god when the not-really-atheist-but-still-an-imbecile above makes it into one, by saying that it created the universe.
Deifying the entire universe in that fashion does not get rid of God (or make one an atheist). His god might not be some beardy dude in the clouds, but he still definitely has one.
It's much the same process you encounter with New-Age "spiritual-but-not-religious" types. They believe in karma, yet when you ask "how does karma work, without a judge to determine guilt and appropriate punishment?", they mumble something about "the universe does it". So you ask, "why would the universe want to punish part of itself?" and get something like, "the universe works in mysterious ways". If you're not facepalming like I do at that point...
People like that still believe in a vengeful god, who will punish sin (but conveniently, only in the afterlife, so you cannot disprove the concept); the difference is that their "god" defines sin by their own moral and ethical standards (and because their god's morals align perfectly with their own [natch], they are righteous, more righteous than you could ever hope to be).
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Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! -
06-28-2014, 05:05 AM
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Why would the Big Bang be a 'God'? It's just a process. Something probably led to the Big Bang, and something probably preceded that as well. Who knows. There's no dogma surrounding it. It's a pretty good guess at this point based on what we know, and there's plenty of scientists who perhaps push the fine details of that theory (inflation, etc) a bit too far, but it sounds good enough for now and given how much we don't actually know (which is a lot), and yet also DO know, it fits damned well. But, that all being said, much of what we have learned about the Big Bang has come by accident or as a result of investigation into the various facts surrounding gravity, particle physics, etc, so it's a process that also cannot be ignored. The fact that you weigh as much as you do and have detectable particles of a certain known property flowing through your body at this very moment point to the fact of the Big Bang as we know it. Much of our knowledge of physics has pointed towards something like the Big Bang, so when the Cosmic Background Radiation was discovered (by accident), it was a bombshell.
As for saving one's soul..... From what? Keep in mind, for us non-religious or atheists (and everybody else, including you), a 'soul' is simply a religious/philosophical concept. It has no basis in actual reality. It's great that your Bible tells you that you have one, but that doesn't mean you do, so 'so what' if that book thinks I need to save it from something?
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First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.
Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.
Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .
If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.
Please make a thread of your own in the " Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.
And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.
I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! -
06-29-2014, 12:51 AM
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No. The "Big Bang" (actually, a bit of a misnomer, coined by Fred Hoyle, who disagreed with the hypothesis) is how the universe formed. The stuff of which the universe is made (what was "created") requires a different explanation (did it already exist, was it "summoned" to this dimension, etc.?) that present theory does not address.
Again, no. Evolution is how we attained our present form, it says nothing about how life originated.
No one (except some uninformed lunatic on the web) is claiming that Spiderman is real.
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Hi, I'm new here.
For the first.
What differentiate the big bang theory from all the others is that it is a scientific theory , which have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experimentation and subject to peer review.
It's old news anyway, because it has already been 50 years since we discovered the Big Bang Echoe sound. You can even observe it yourself that everything in the universe is moving apart. If these galaxies are far, far away, and moving quickly away from us, this suggests that the entire Universe must have been located in a single point billions of years ago.
Secondly, the evolution theory. This scientific theory has been widely accepted in the scientific community as there's many observables proofs, such as: fossils, DNA, Genetic commonalities, Common traits in embryos and I could go on. People saying that we came from monkeys are pretty ignorant, as great apes are our common ancestor. If you want more info on evolution ask me. But regarding how life started, I would suggest you to read about abiogenesis.
On third: Bible. What proof do you have that god made the bible, why does it have so many scientific non-sense in it? I don't even understand how you people can believe it, even the god you worship is depicted as the evil one compared to Satan. The biblical god killed around 2.5 millions of people if you read the entire bible, not counting how he annihilated all life on earth except Noah and his buddies ( estimated at 20 millions humans killed during the flood). Satan only killed around 10 people to help God win a bet ( Job's family )
Speaking of noah, even his boat is unrealistic. Look at this diagram
There's a problem with Noah Ship's, it wouldn't work with reality. Let see the biggest wooden sailing ship made by highly trained ship builders, callled the Wyoming. Because of her extreme length and wood construction, Wyoming tended to flex in heavy seas, which would cause the long planks to twist and buckle, thereby allowing sea water to intrude into the hold (see hogging and sagging). Wyoming had to use pumps to keep her hold relatively free of water. In March 1924, she foundered in heavy seas and sank with the loss of all hands.
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Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! -
06-29-2014, 01:20 AM
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Who are you? Have you introduced yourself in the mysteriously-named Introduction Forum? Have you read all of the stickies threads you were asked to read? Did you read the Terms of Service closely?
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Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! -
06-29-2014, 01:46 AM
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...What differentiate the big bang theory from all the others is that it is a...
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Theory that says NOTHING about how the stuff that makes up the universe was CREATED, which is what I said.
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...Secondly, the evolution theory....But regarding how life started, I would suggest you to read about abiogenesis....
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AND LIKE I SAID, evolution has nothing to do with abiogenesis (which is just a fancy word for the origin of life).
Please read what you're attempting to argue with.
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Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! -
06-29-2014, 01:47 AM
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Who are you? Have you introduced yourself in the mysteriously-named Introduction Forum? Have you read all of the stickies threads you were asked to read? Did you read the Terms of Service closely?
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Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! -
06-29-2014, 01:51 AM
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Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! -
06-29-2014, 01:59 AM
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Theory that says NOTHING about how the stuff that makes up the universe was CREATED, which is what I said.
AND LIKE I SAID, evolution has nothing to do with abiogenesis (which is just a fancy word for the origin of life).
Please read what you're attempting to argue with.
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You seem confused. The big bang theory does suggest how '' stuff that makes up the universe was created ''. How it created subatomic particles such as protons, neutrons and electrons. How it created atoms such as hydrogen, helium, litium. Generally, the big bang theory does suggest how the universe was created, including the ''stuff'' in it.
And I never said that abiogenesis was related to evolution, I only said abiogenesis was related to the origin of life.
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Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! -
06-29-2014, 02:02 AM
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Hello, and welcome to our friendly forums!
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For the first.
What differentiate the big bang theory from all the others is that it is a scientific theory , which have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experimentation and subject to peer review.
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Hogwash. This so-called "theory" will be replaced as soon as another, more popular one comes on the scene.
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It's old news anyway, because it has already been 50 years since we discovered the Big Bang Echoe sound. You can even observe it yourself that everything in the universe is moving apart. If these galaxies are far, far away, and moving quickly away from us, this suggests that the entire Universe must have been located in a single point billions of years ago.
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So you've been to every planet and felt it moving in a different direction?
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Secondly, the evolution theory. This scientific theory has been widely accepted in the scientific community as there's many observables proofs, such as: fossils, DNA, Genetic commonalities, Common traits in embryos and I could go on. People saying that we came from monkeys are pretty ignorant, as great apes are our common ancestor. If you want more info on evolution ask me. But regarding how life started, I would suggest you to read about abiogenesis.
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Phrenology was widely accepted in the scientific community, too.
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On third: Bible. What proof do you have that god made the bible, why does it have so many scientific non-sense in it? I don't even understand how you people can believe it, even the god you worship is depicted as the evil one compared to Satan. The biblical god killed around 2.5 millions of people if you read the entire bible, not counting how he annihilated all life on earth except Noah and his buddies ( estimated at 20 millions humans killed during the flood). Satan only killed around 10 people to help God win a bet ( Job's family )
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What does God's righteous justice have to do with the creation of the world?
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Speaking of noah, even his boat is unrealistic. Look at this diagram
There's a problem with Noah Ship's, it wouldn't work with reality. Let see the biggest wooden sailing ship made by highly trained ship builders, callled the Wyoming. Because of her extreme length and wood construction, Wyoming tended to flex in heavy seas, which would cause the long planks to twist and buckle, thereby allowing sea water to intrude into the hold (see hogging and sagging). Wyoming had to use pumps to keep her hold relatively free of water. In March 1924, she foundered in heavy seas and sank with the loss of all hands.
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No, the problem is with your understanding of the mysteries of the LORD, dear. The fact is Noah's Ark was successful, the most successful maritime adventure in the history of the world, mind you. The Ark was navigated by a centuries old man who probably never paddled a boat in his life. He cared for the animals so they would survive the trauma of being separated from their environment, packed in closely with their natural predators, protected from the toxic fumes from the uric acid alone.
Why, just think about it. When Noah's Ark finally came to rest and the animals were freed (those not immediately sacrificed of course, Genesis 8:20), the kangaroos, dodo birds, and koala bears stepped off and managed to hop, scurry, and meander their way 7,726 miles straight to Australia! Not only did the lack of land mass stop them, not only did the lack of their natural diet not affect them, not a single one died (or if they did, they picked up their bones so as not to leave a visible trace of their miraculous migration).
You can't find these kinds of odds anywhere! It could only be a miracle!
Praise Jesus!
Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
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Re: 101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG !!! -
06-29-2014, 02:24 AM
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You seem confused. The big bang theory does suggest how '' stuff that makes up the universe was created ''. How it created subatomic particles such as protons, neutrons and electrons...
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Where did the stuff they're made of come from?
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...How it created atoms such as hydrogen, helium, litium...
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Which are made of "subatomic particles such as protons, neutrons and electrons" like you said, but where did they come from?
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No, it just explains what happened to it after it was created, and how it all became the matter and energy we're familiar with today.
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Then why were you arguing when I said that it wasn't?
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...Evolution is how we attained our present form, it says nothing about how life originated...
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06-29-2014, 02:33 AM
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Hogwash. This so-called "theory" will be replaced as soon as another, more popular one comes on the scene.
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That's what is nice about science. If there's new elements that contradicts or adds to a scientific theory, science will welcome it. That's called progress. Unlike religion.
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So you've been to every planet and felt it moving in a different direction?
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It's simple. Measurement of velocities and distances. Hubble discovered this in 1930 if I remember. Hubble was able to plot a trend line from the galaxies he studied, revealing that galaxies are apart. I've learned this in science class when I was 15 years old.
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Phrenology was widely accepted in the scientific community, too.
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It might have been widely accepted in the 19th century, but now is is regarded as an absolete primitive neuroanatomy. Science have progressed alot since that, I fnd your analogy derisive.
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What does God's righteous justice have to do with the creation of the world?
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I simply pointed out how rediculous it seems to me.
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No, the problem is with your understanding of the mysteries of the LORD, dear. The fact is Noah's Ark was successful, the most successful maritime adventure in the history of the world, mind you. The Ark was navigated by a centuries old man who probably never paddled a boat in his life. He cared for the animals so they would survive the trauma of being separated from their environment, packed in closely with their natural predators, protected from the toxic fumes from the uric acid alone.
Why, just think about it. When Noah's Ark finally came to rest and the animals were freed (those not immediately sacrificed of course, Genesis 8:20), the kangaroos, dodo birds, and koala bears stepped off and managed to hop, scurry, and meander their way 7,726 miles straight to Australia! Not only did the lack of land mass stop them, not only did the lack of their natural diet not affect them, not a single one died (or if they did, they picked up their bones so as not to leave a visible trace of their miraculous migration).
You can't find these kinds of odds anywhere! It could only be a miracle!
Praise Jesus!
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So you logical argument to explain this is to say '' sky wizard defied physics and made it work! '' ?
If kangoroos hooped 8k miles to australia, why didn't we ever find fossils between turkey and australia?
If the flood happened 6k years ago, how did trees such as the old tjikko that is 9.6k years old survive underwater for so long?
Why are there no traces of these miracles today?
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06-30-2014, 06:18 AM
I would appreciate it if you respect my atheism, I do not like having people running around calling atheism stupid, I respect you, I would like you to respect me
And would god encourage hating his other children? In the bible it states that every human is god's child?
I do not hate god, but I do not believe in him either.
Now that being said, fossil evidence as well as evolution proves that Dinosaurs didn't live alongside man. Dinosaurs were apex at their time (65 million years ago) so their dominance would oppress other animals from evolving. On another note; If god was real, then why the hell is he allowing millions of children if Africa to die slow and painful deaths? Surely he would save them or at the very least grant them a quick death?
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Any Atheist would be able to answer these questions
http://atheism.about.com/ Let this soothe you're ails.
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06-30-2014, 06:29 AM
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...In the bible it states that every human is god's child?...
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No, it doesn't. Please read it before claiming what it says.
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06-30-2014, 06:33 AM
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09-27-2014, 07:24 PM
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Evolution is a theory, so is gravity. Go jump of a cliff then, please, it would do the world a whole heap of good. If you don't believe in scientific theories prove they are wrong. Evolution is more proven than gravity SO IF YOU DONT BELIEVE IN GRAVITY ***swearword deleted*** OFF A CLIFF, it will do the world loads of good
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Lemme give you an example. The LAW of gravity is that when you let go of something, it falls to the ground. The THEORY of gravity is that every object with mass attracts other substances towards it. Simple as that.
Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
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