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Default The Order of Melchizedek what does it mean? - 10-30-2008, 02:44 PM

The Lord has sworn, And will not relent,
'You are a priest forever Of the order of Melchizedek'
Psalm 110:4


The Change Of Covenants

We find the first conclusion in Hebrews 7:11-14. "There has been a change of law." He means total abolition, not a mere amendment. The law-covenant of Moses has been replaced by a new and better law-covenant (Heb 7:18,22 8:8-9,13).

The writer acknowledges that "Our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood", and from this tribe "no man has officiated at the altar" (Heb 7:13-14). If Jesus is the "priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek" then he is not a priest according to the order of Levi and Aaron, but according to an entirely new order superseding theirs.

Jesus is the High Priest once and for all. Abraham's transfer of goods to Melchizedek is seen to imply that Melchizedek is superior to Abraham, in that Abraham is tithing to him. Thus, Melchizedek's (Jesus') priesthood is superior to the Aaronic priesthood, and the Temple in Jerusalem is now unnecessary.

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Default Re: The Order of Melchizedek what does it mean? - 10-30-2008, 02:52 PM

Friend, do you think we haven't seen trolls with a cut&paste job before?

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Default Re: The Order of Melchizedek what does it mean? - 10-30-2008, 03:29 PM

First off I will introduce myself.

I have been Baptized twice. Once by Water and once by the Holy Ghost. I accepted him then he accepted me. I was surrounded by his Light and Truth. And I believe very much in love one another taught by Jesus Christ.

Can you explain the Order of Melchizedek and its meaning. As True Christians we should know what it means. I have not found anyone that evens talks much about him.

I am asking a question about a person in the Bible.
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Default Re: The Order of Melchizedek what does it mean? - 10-30-2008, 03:38 PM

No, you are both a moron and a mormon. If you would have bothered to do a search, you would have seen that Pastor Zeke covered this yonks ago.

So your point is?


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Default Re: The Order of Melchizedek what does it mean? - 10-30-2008, 04:15 PM

I am neither of what you said. And I am not fat as your personal note suggested. So now you have been wrong on three different things that have spewed from your mouth. I searched and found nothing on Melchizedek that's why I am asking. If you do not know drop your ego and let someone that does answer my question. I thought Christians were supposed to help other Christains?

I am sorry that you don't believe in two Baptisms. Jesus taught it I guess you over looked it.

Psalm 110:4 in the Kings James Version. Not a Mormon version.

4The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.

Genesis 14:18 (King James Version)

18And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.

So who was he? I do not think this is out of line nor does it make me a mormon as you say.
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First off I will introduce myself.

I have been Baptized twice. Once by Water and once by the Holy Ghost. I accepted him then he accepted me. I was surrounded by his Light and Truth. And I believe very much in love one another taught by Jesus Christ.

Can you explain the Order of Melchizedek and its meaning. As True Christians we should know what it means. I have not found anyone that evens talks much about him.

I am asking a question about a person in the Bible.
This one is one of those damned, uppity Pentecostal types. I can just tell. While I haven't seen one in several years, I quite remember what they were like. I never did like them. They're like Presbyterians with ADHD.

Pentecostals believe that if you don't speak in tongues you're not saved. Where does it say that in the Bible?
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Default Re: The Order of Melchizedek what does it mean? - 10-30-2008, 04:23 PM

I am not one of those either my friend. I am just a True Christian that is asking about a person in the King James Bible. Why all the Hostility?
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I am not one of those either my friend. I am just a True Christian that is asking about a person in the King James Bible. Why all the Hostility?
Do you see what it says under your name? "Unsaved Trash". That's why all the hostility. You're doing nothing but interfering with Godly fellowship and I don't like it one bit. Come up with your own questions instead of copying and pasting someone else's liberal propaganda.
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I am not one of those either my friend. I am just a True Christian that is asking about a person in the King James Bible. Why all the Hostility?
I'd like to turn this around on you.

What does it mean to YOU? Preferably in your own words, not those of the site you're cutting and pasting from, which says:

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In giving the blessing and in receiving tithes, Melchizedek acted in both his kingly and priestly capacities. This happened when God was making the promises to Abraham --especially the seed promise, that exciting promise that one of Abraham's seed (or offspring) would bless all nations and be King of kings. We sometimes call this seed promise the Messianic promise". Melchizedek's meeting with Abraham was symbolic in regard to the Messianic promise.


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The Lord has sworn, And will not relent, 'You are a priest forever Of the order of Melchizedek' Psalm 110:4
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King of righteousness, the king of Salem (q.v.). All we know of him is recorded in Gen. 14:18-20. He is subsequently mentioned only once in the Old Testament, in Ps. 110:4. The typical significance of his history is set forth in detail in the Epistle to the Hebrews, ch. 7. The apostle there points out the superiority of his priesthood to that of Aaron in these several respects, (1) Even Abraham paid him tithes; (2) he blessed Abraham; (3) he is the type of a Priest who lives for ever; (4) Levi, yet unborn, paid him tithes in the person of Abraham; (5) the permanence of his priesthood in Christ implied the abrogation of the Levitical system; (6) he was made priest not without an oath; and (7) his priesthood can neither be transmitted nor interrupted by death: "this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood." The question as to who this mysterious personage was has given rise to a great deal of modern speculation [Jooish rubbish deleted]
That's it - that what it says in KJV and that's what I believe. There is no more and no less.

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Friend, I'm not sure what your issue is. You barge in here unsaved and uninvited, demanding the answer to an obscure and largely irrelevant question, having plagiarized it from another website. You claim to be Saved© and a True Christian™ when you clearly are not. And you don't even have the common courtesy to properly introduce yourself.

The answer to your question can be found HERE.

Now why not try and make a fresh start? Tell us about yourself in detail. How old are you? What church do you attend? Why are you obsessing about Melchizedek?

By the way, this is not a debate forum. You might want to take a look at THIS thread before making an even bigger fool out of yourself.


Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: The Order of Melchizedek what does it mean? - 10-31-2008, 01:16 AM

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Genesis 14:18 (King James Version)

18And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.

So who was he? I do not think this is out of line nor does it make me a mormon as you say.
Duh, he was the King of Salem. Like all Mormons, you quote the Bible, but you don't read it. You're less intelligent than most of your Gordon B. Hinkley-worshipping ilk, however, since you didn't bother reading the very verse you quoted. And this has nothing to do with Jesus, who was not a priest of the Order of Melchizedek.

I asked Jesus, and He told me that there are no currently living members of the priestly Order of Melchizedek. In fact, there are no priests of any order living in 2008 (excepting the dead ones, who are, as the Psalmist writes, priests for ever), since the only function of the priests was to supervise ritual sacrifices at the temple, and the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross obviated the need for further sacrifices to the Lord (which is why God permitted the destruction of the temple shortly thereafter).

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Default Re: The Order of Melchizedek what does it mean? - 10-31-2008, 11:42 AM

I am not a sinner that hits and runs. Nor am I bebating and yes I have read the Bible and understand it down the numbering system that is in it. As John 3:16 to even what the name John Stands For. Join Our Home Now. Its the Time to make that Choice its yours to make.

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And please read this and understand why I am talking about Melchizedek and his importance to you.

A quote "He told me that there are no currently living members of the priestly Order of Melchizedek" If you believe as written in the King James Bible you will know that Melchizedek himself lives Forever and has always. You had better ask if Melchizedek Lives your answer will be different. I promise you that.

King of righteousness, the king of Salem (q.v.). All we know of him is recorded in Gen. 14:18-20. He is subsequently mentioned only once in the Old Testament, in Ps. 110:4. The typical significance of his history is set forth in detail in the Epistle to the Hebrews, ch. 7. The apostle there points out the superiority of his priesthood to that of Aaron in these several respects, (1) Even Abraham paid him tithes; (2) he blessed Abraham; (3) he is the type of a Priest who lives for ever; (4) Levi, yet unborn, paid him tithes in the person of Abraham; (5) the permanence of his priesthood in Christ implied the abrogation of the Levitical system; (6) he was made priest not without an oath; and (7) his priesthood can neither be transmitted nor interrupted by death: "this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood." The question as to who this mysterious personage was has given rise to a great deal of modern speculation [Jooish rubbish deleted]

I agree with you. And I quote

That's it - that’s what it says in KJV and that's what I believe. There is no more and no less.

Who is Melchizedek by in what you and I believe in simple words in my own way. To the best I can.

King of righteousness, the king of Salem he is the type of a Priest who lives for ever; his priesthood can neither be transmitted nor interrupted by death: "this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood."

I believe and agree with you 100 percent about who Melchizedek is. And you were right when you threw the Jewish parts out. Before Jerusalem ever existed there was Salem. Melchizedek was not Jewish. Nor should have this world ever been named Jerusalem. It has always been in the order of Melchizedek the Jewish people renamed it not God. They replaced the order of Melchizedek with the Jewish Law. They have lied to make themselves the chosen ones. In the order of Melchizedek all are chosen to follow the Messianic Seed Jesus Christ and to live in Salem with the right to peace and happiness. With the messianic promise of Life without Dying. Just as Melchizedek does.


In giving the blessing and in receiving tithes, Melchizedek acted in both his kingly and priestly capacities. This happened when God was making the promises to Abraham --especially the seed promise, that exciting promise that one of Abraham's seed would bless all nations and be King of kings. We sometimes call this seed promise the Messianic promise". Melchizedek's meeting with Abraham was symbolic in regard to the Messianic promise.

Let's talk about Messianic First and the way I understand it but maybe I am wrong. That's why I seek. So please don't get mad and upset because I am asking you questions. If I am wrong I will except it and carry on in my search for True Life without Dying as the Messianic Promise of Jesus Christ.

The word messianic for me means relating to the Messiah as belonging to his fellowship of peace, truth, and happiness as the True Liberator he his. A messianic promise is the promise and blessing of God for Everlasting Life without Dying.

Melchizedek as being the most high priest of the most holy is the only one other than Jesus Christ that can bless anyone in God’s name. Only Melchizedek and Jesus Christ as high priests have that authority from God. The messianic or seed promise is the return of Jesus Christ. He is the Seed of God.

I have been called a few different names here and of different denominations of Faith. I am Baptist to set the point straight. I am not looking for the End of Days that’s for the non believers and their punishment will be just. That’s the job of Melchizedek to judge the Holy. From first to last all will be judged the ones that Judge others have already Judged themselves. The pope will be the last to be Judged. To give him time to understand that he can be Judged by a Man on Earth. The man Melchizedek has and always will be the Most High Priest of God until he passes that right over to Jesus Christ. The Two Witnesses of God the only Two in the Holy Bible that Live forever.

I hope I have explained this to your satisfaction if not please ask me to expel on it more. The Father is God, The Son is Jesus Christ, The Holy Ghost is Melchizedek. The Father the Son and Their Priest the prince of Salem.

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Default Re: The Order of Melchizedek what does it mean? - 10-31-2008, 11:58 AM

Pastor Ezekiel you are right Jesus is not a Jew. He was in the Order of Melchizedek. He gave the Jews a way out. If they accepted him and his Blood.
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Pastor Ezekiel you are right Jesus is not a Jew. He was in the Order of Melchizedek. He gave the Jews a way out. If they accepted him and his Blood.
Pal, you need to read the thread I made on the subject HERE. I don't recall anything about mentioning Mel.


Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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