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Father of Lies speaks a few truths -
05-29-2007, 09:17 PM
I'm usually not one to agree with anything that comes out of the Vatican, but in this case I think the Latinos are unfair in giving Herr Ratzinger a hard time:
Father of Lies: The Pope's Genocidal Revisionism
" Almost no one in the West seems to have noticed the truly perverse and morally obscene remarks made by Pope Benedict in Brazil. But genocide scholar Adam Jones at CounterPunch noticed, and calls out Herr Ratzinger for his remarkable historical revisionism, which paints the genocidal destruction of America's pre-Columbus cultures as a "purifying" act which gave the natives just what they were "longing" for. In this outburst, the conservative cleric and former Hitler Youth far surpasses revisionists like David Irving in whitewashing mass murder, slavery and military aggression. "
Here's the original speech from the Vatican's own web site: INAUGURAL SESSION OF THE FIFTH GENERAL CONFERENCE
OF THE BISHOPS OF LATIN AMERICA AND THE CARIBBEAN
" Yet what did the acceptance of the Christian faith mean for the nations of Latin America and the Caribbean? For them, it meant knowing and welcoming Christ, the unknown God whom their ancestors were seeking, without realizing it, in their rich religious traditions. Christ is the Saviour for whom they were silently longing. It also meant that they received, in the waters of Baptism, the divine life that made them children of God by adoption; moreover, they received the Holy Spirit who came to make their cultures fruitful, purifying them and developing the numerous seeds that the incarnate Word had planted in them, thereby guiding them along the paths of the Gospel. In effect, the proclamation of Jesus and of his Gospel did not at any point involve an alienation of the pre-Columbian cultures, nor was it the imposition of a foreign culture."
1st Corinthians 15:16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
1st Corinthians 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
1st Corinthians 15:18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
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Re: Father of Lies speaks a few truths -
05-29-2007, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Prune Danish
I'm usually not one to agree with anything that comes out of the Vatican, but in this case I think the Latinos are unfair in giving Herr Ratzinger a hard time:
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I'd have to agree with you. As much as I hate that wop shill you have to give him a little credit. Jesus as a Saviour was far better than anything else those greaseballs had going. If it wasn't for us they'd still be ripping hearts out of civilians.
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Re: Father of Lies speaks a few truths -
05-30-2007, 10:23 AM
A-men. Every injun before then went to Hell. Now some of them have a chance at Heaven
Matthew:
5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled
10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
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Re: Father of Lies speaks a few truths -
05-30-2007, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Prune Danish
I'm usually not one to agree with anything that comes out of the Vatican, but in this case I think the Latinos are unfair in giving Herr Ratzinger a hard time:
Father of Lies: The Pope's Genocidal Revisionism
" Almost no one in the West seems to have noticed the truly perverse and morally obscene remarks made by Pope Benedict in Brazil. But genocide scholar Adam Jones at CounterPunch noticed, and calls out Herr Ratzinger for his remarkable historical revisionism, which paints the genocidal destruction of America's pre-Columbus cultures as a "purifying" act which gave the natives just what they were "longing" for. In this outburst, the conservative cleric and former Hitler Youth far surpasses revisionists like David Irving in whitewashing mass murder, slavery and military aggression.
I'm pretty sure they would have been much happier if they had been left alone instead of invaded.
Here's the original speech from the Vatican's own web site: INAUGURAL SESSION OF THE FIFTH GENERAL CONFERENCE
OF THE BISHOPS OF LATIN AMERICA AND THE CARIBBEAN
" Yet what did the acceptance of the Christian faith mean for the nations of Latin America and the Caribbean? For them, it meant knowing and welcoming Christ, the unknown God whom their ancestors were seeking, without realizing it, in their rich religious traditions. Christ is the Saviour for whom they were silently longing. It also meant that they received, in the waters of Baptism, the divine life that made them children of God by adoption; moreover, they received the Holy Spirit who came to make their cultures fruitful, purifying them and developing the numerous seeds that the incarnate Word had planted in them, thereby guiding them along the paths of the Gospel. In effect, the proclamation of Jesus and of his Gospel did not at any point involve an alienation of the pre-Columbian cultures, nor was it the imposition of a foreign culture."
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It was very much the imposition of a foreign culture, and at the point of a sword to boot. They weren't seeking Christianity, they had Christianity forced upon them, in the form of "profess the love of Jesus or die."
The ironic part of it is that, had they been given a chance to simply observe Christian rituals, they might well have incorporated Jesus into their pantheon of their own accord.
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Re: Father of Lies speaks a few truths -
05-30-2007, 12:58 PM
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It was very much the imposition of a foreign culture, and at the point of a sword to boot.
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Yes, and I can't for the life of me understand why the limp-wristed homopater is so keen to avoid that particular point. The Mary-Worshippers utterly destroyed an evil, idolatrous culture and replaced it with one that at least paid lip-service to Our Lord; surely the roly-poly old fishhead should be boasting about it, not trying to cover it up?
O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.
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Re: Father of Lies speaks a few truths -
05-30-2007, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dances with Joy
The ironic part of it is that, had they been given a chance to simply observe Christian rituals, they might well have incorporated Jesus into their pantheon of their own accord.
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Jesus is God, and He doesn't hang out with "pantheons" or any other tribe of demons and/or false Gods. Those redskins are going to fry in hell, irregardless.
Exodus 23:32 Thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor with their gods.
Deuteronomy 5:7 Thou shalt have none other gods before me.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Father of Lies speaks a few truths -
05-30-2007, 01:19 PM
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Yes, and I can't for the life of me understand why the limp-wristed homopater is so keen to avoid that particular point. The Mary-Worshippers utterly destroyed an evil, idolatrous culture and replaced it with one that at least paid lip-service to Our Lord; surely the roly-poly old fishhead should be boasting about it, not trying to cover it up?
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They invaded and destroyed a culture that had never done any harm to them. How is that a good thing?
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Re: Father of Lies speaks a few truths -
05-30-2007, 01:21 PM
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Jesus is God, and He doesn't hang out with "pantheons" or any other tribe of demons and/or false Gods. Those redskins are going to fry in hell, irregardless.
Exodus 23:32 Thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor with their gods.
Deuteronomy 5:7 Thou shalt have none other gods before me.
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The what exactly was the point of the forced conversions? Wait - let me guess. Gold for Jesus?
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Re: Father of Lies speaks a few truths -
05-30-2007, 01:39 PM
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They invaded and destroyed a culture that had never done any harm to them. How is that a good thing?
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Because Our Lord Almighty commands it. Do you really need me to post 2 Chronicles 15:12-13 again? Because if that's what it takes to get you to give up your vile blasphemies and accept Christ, that's what I'm willing to do.
O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.
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Re: Father of Lies speaks a few truths -
05-30-2007, 01:44 PM
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Because Our Lord Almighty commands it. Do you really need me to post 2 Chronicles 15:12-13 again? Because if that's what it takes to get you to give up your vile blasphemies and accept Christ, that's what I'm willing to do.
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Don't bother - it won't work. You'd just be wasting your time and bandwidth.
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05-30-2007, 01:55 PM
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...You'd just be wasting your time and bandwidth.
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No, that's what YOU are doing. Posting examples of God's love is never a wasteful thing. Its what we do.
You are choosing to waste not only our bandwidth but also your immortal soul. It is YOU who are responsible for ensuring that you spend eternity gargling satan's scalding hot spunk, while being peeled alive by midget nigroes. Your fault, not God's.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Father of Lies speaks a few truths -
05-30-2007, 01:59 PM
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eternity gargling satan's scalding hot spunk, while being peeled alive by midget nigroes. Your fault, not God's.
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What a sick imagination you have.
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Re: Father of Lies speaks a few truths -
05-30-2007, 09:19 PM
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What a sick imagination you have.
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What, so you think that there's something inherently sick about thinking about gollywogs? Friend, if you must waste our bandwidth with your inane pagan yammering, I'd appreciate it if you'd at least spare us your hateful white supremacist views while doing it.
O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.
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Re: Father of Lies speaks a few truths -
05-30-2007, 11:08 PM
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What, so you think that there's something inherently sick about thinking about gollywogs? Friend, if you must waste our bandwidth with your inane pagan yammering, I'd appreciate it if you'd at least spare us your hateful white supremacist views while doing it.
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No, there's something inherently sick about you constantly fantasizing about Satan's sex life.
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Re: Father of Lies speaks a few truths -
05-30-2007, 11:11 PM
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No, there's something inherently sick about you constantly fantasizing about Satan's sex life.
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We are constantly trying to save your soul. And satan has you in his claws so firmly that you throw tantrums whenever we show you God's Truth.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Father of Lies speaks a few truths -
05-30-2007, 11:20 PM
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What a sick imagination you have.
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Imagination? The Pastor is giving a factual description of the horrors that await you in the Lake of Fire. Personally, I'd love to see the look on your face when you get there and realize just how far beyond the scope of human imagination Hell is.
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