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10-14-2010, 04:48 AM
I am stating honestly and this is not meant as threatening.
It seems to me that your church is following God's Old Testament standards, instead of the New Testament by striving to be like Christ.
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Re: Mislead -
10-14-2010, 04:53 AM
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I am stating honestly and this is not meant as threatening.
It seems to me that your church is following God's Old Testament standards, instead of the New Testament by striving to be like Christ.
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Welcome, friend.
Could you tell me how the Old Testament is invalidated by the New Testament?
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10-14-2010, 04:57 AM
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I am stating honestly and this is not meant as threatening.
It seems to me that your church is following God's Old Testament standards, instead of the New Testament by striving to be like Christ.
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Could you show us where Jesus said we should ignore the Old Testament?
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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10-14-2010, 05:01 AM
Mr. Ezekiel. The word ignore never came up.
Mr. Jones. I would assume that since Christ is God in man, who is the same God of the Old Testament, that you would want to follow Christ's example with the same or increased vigor.
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10-14-2010, 05:06 AM
Also, Hello Mr. Jones.
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10-14-2010, 05:10 AM
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Mr. Ezekiel. The word ignore never came up.
Mr. Jones. I would assume that since Christ is God in man, who is the same God of the Old Testament, that you would want to follow Christ's example with the same or increased vigor.
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Well my little ray of sunshine, we follow all of God's words. Yes the entire Bible(KJV 1611) from cover to cover. False Christians are the ones who only follow the New Testament. Let me share a few words from our Lord on the very subject.
Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
( This is Jesus speaking below)
Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
You see Jesus tells us to follow the entire Bible.
Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
Deuteronomy 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.
Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Proverbs 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
Matthew 4:4 Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
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10-14-2010, 05:17 AM
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Mr. Jones. I would assume that since Christ is God in man, who is the same God of the Old Testament, that you would want to follow Christ's example with the same or increased vigor.
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What more of Jesus' example should I follow? I have yet to see you quote scripture.
Are we Christians not to Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:?
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10-14-2010, 05:22 AM
Mr. Jones.
God of the Old Testament was just, while God of the New Testament is merciful. Yes or no.
I have seem much justice from you all but little mercy.
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10-14-2010, 05:43 AM
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Mr. Jones.
God of the Old Testament was just, while God of the New Testament is merciful. Yes or no.
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It is the same God, is it not? What makes you think God changed?
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I have seem much justice from you all but little mercy.
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Friend, I believe you will find me most merciful toward the wretched souls that wash upon our holy shores.
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10-14-2010, 05:49 AM
Mr. Jones.
Nothing has made me think that. I was stating for clarification.
But I have not seen any part of your merciful side. I can easily see that you all are just, but I have not seen any mercy.
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10-14-2010, 06:00 AM
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Mr. Jones.
Nothing has made me think that. I was stating for clarification.
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Call me Levi. You were stating it for clarification. I guess, my question is, why were you castigating us for preaching from the Old Testament.
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But I have not seen any part of your merciful side. I can easily see that you all are just, but I have not seen any mercy.
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I don't know what you are looking for here, son. Maybe explain to me what it is your are seeking and I might be able to help you.
YIC,
Levi
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10-14-2010, 06:06 AM
Levi.
No i was not castigating you at all. I added that for clarification for my point.
For example, I have seem countless threads on (sorry for the usual) stoning, cleansing the earth of heathens, and other what if's that end in some form of death or punishment. But sir, I cant seem to find any threads on missions trips to other countries or even other states, or cities.
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10-14-2010, 06:17 AM
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Levi.
No i was not castigating you at all. I added that for clarification for my point.
For example, I have seem countless threads on (sorry for the usual) stoning, cleansing the earth of heathens, and other what if's that end in some form of death or punishment. But sir, I cant seem to find any threads on missions trips to other countries or even other states, or cities.
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We hold a free summer camp for underprivileged children, an ex-gay ministry, a young women's ministry and etc. We have led missions to countless numbers of countries, including Australia, Denmark, Canada, Mexico and Africa. These are a few things our church does. We take works very seriously here at Landover Baptist.
But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.
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10-14-2010, 06:22 AM
Are there threads on those topics you gave me? I would like to see them, please sir.
Im not doubting your church's works. It is very obvious that you are an active church.
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10-14-2010, 06:35 AM
If it wasn't for the Ex-Gay© program, I would likely still be wallowing in sodomania. It is because of Landover Baptist's outreach programs that I am now Saved™.
II Thessalonians 1:7-9
And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power
The man who is being progressively sanctified will inescapably sanctify his home, school, politics, economics, science, and all things else by understanding and interpreting all things in terms of the Word of God and by bringing all things under the Dominion of Christ the King. -R.J. Rushdoony
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10-14-2010, 06:41 AM
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Are there threads on those topics you gave me? I would like to see them, please sir.
Im not doubting your church's works. It is very obvious that you are an active church.
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Pleas, feel free to use the search function, friend.
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10-14-2010, 06:41 AM
Praise the Lord for your salvation Jedediah.
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10-14-2010, 06:46 AM
Thank you Levi, I found some threads on the topics.
I had been searching by looking at forum titles, to no avail.
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10-14-2010, 06:53 AM
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Thank you Levi, I found some threads on the topics.
I had been searching by looking at forum titles, to no avail.
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One of the problems that you may be having is the number of new threads started by people who come to our board to mock God. This is why if you count the threads, it looks like we are constantly railing against homosexuality, or other such subjects. Unfortunately there does not seem to be a way of searching out only threads started by True Christians.
I would like to see it cleaned up, but we would probably need 3-4 people working full time on the board doing nothing but taking new threads and injecting them into pre-existing threads that already exist. So instead, the powers that be just do a clean-up and archiving of old files every year or so.
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10-14-2010, 07:02 AM
Perhaps a separate forum could be made, listed under the Church Forums, for missions work?
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