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12-18-2008, 08:54 PM
hello.
i am not a christian, and i dont think i ever will be, however i would like to share my views on homosexuality.
i am not one, however many of my friends are and i am proud of them.
they are open minded, accepting people, more accepting than anyone else i know.
however the poeple that are posting these threads arent either of these, and i thought that your god taught you to accept people whatever their creed, or colour. whether rich or poor, black or white, why is gay or straight left out of this equation? gay's and lesbians have accepted themselves, and if they believe in god then they must know that god's accepted them too, however the sons and daughters of your god havent', so why dont you begin to become more accepting? its not a matter of forgiveness because they have done nothing wrong.
gay and lesbian love was once known as the purest type of love, because they werent doing it for sex, they were doing it for the attraction between two people, whereas straight people could just be doing it for sex and for making children. homosexuality cant create these things, which implies these poeple must love each other for their personality, for who they are, for who you believe god made them. if you believe that everyone is a child of god, then you must believe that they are too, that they are your brothers and sisters and that they love you as you should love them. just because they arent the same sexuality as you doesnt mean they are horrible or corrupted. people can murder and still be forgiven by your god, however these people who have done nothing wrong but love purely can't be in your eyes, don't you think thats wrong?
if you truly believe in your god then you will trust him, and if you believe that everyone is a child of him then you must also believe that these homosexuals are his too. if you really believe in your god you wont question his decision to allow gays and lesbians in this world, you must accept it, like you accept his forgiveness when you hurt another. you may not understand it at this moment or as to why hes allowed it but you dont need to, because if you really trust him then you will know that he will explain it to you one day, and that you will understand. all you have to do is accept, if you cant accept everyone then you cant call yourself a christian or a true believer in god. you can't have accepted yourself because there is a bit of god in everyone, and god has accepted them, so why can't you?
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12-18-2008, 09:00 PM
Have you ever read the Bible?
God directly instructs us to execute sodomites by stoning them to death. Also witches, New Agers (those who use divination), those who try to lead us to other religions (including the worship of "logic"), disobedient children, and adulterers. That's pretty darned clear, isn't it?
I truly believe God gave us the Bible to follow, not to ignore in favor of your so-called "logic".
Tell me, should we also love and accept pedophiles, and serial killers, and rapists, and frauds? By your logic, they're all "God's Children" too.
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12-18-2008, 09:05 PM
take is up with god? no because i dont believe in him, and i dont have a problem with your god, i have an enquiry as to some people;s perseptions of his teachings. if you had read that at all, i am encouraging you to follow in your god's way, to be accepting.
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12-18-2008, 09:08 PM
I believe that this idiotic troll or a fag enabler must be banned from this forum for good.
Homosexuality is a filthy and vile sin.Leviticus 18:22 and Romans 1:26-32.Abortion is a murder and genocide.GLBT agenda and abortions doom America.God hates fags and fag enablers.
GLBT people who are now in Hell:
Matthew Shepard,Diane Whipple,Del Martin,Kermit Love,Heath Ledger(straight gay enabler)
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12-18-2008, 09:09 PM
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take is up with god? no because i dont believe in him, and i dont have a problem with your god, i have an enquiry as to some people;s perseptions of his teachings. if you had read that at all, i am encouraging you to follow in your god's way, to be accepting.
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And I just told you we ARE following in God's way. He lays out the Laws, and we follow them.
Nowhere in the Bible does it say to "be accepting" of those He commands us to execute. In fact, I'd say commanding us to execute them is pretty much telling us NOT to be accepting of them.
God isn't what YOU want Him to be. He is who HE decides to be.
He's the potter. You are the clay. The clay does not shape the potter, son.
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12-18-2008, 09:11 PM
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take is up with god? no because i dont believe in him, and i dont have a problem with your god, i have an enquiry as to some people;s perseptions of his teachings. if you had read that at all, i am encouraging you to follow in your god's way, to be accepting.
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Deal with it idiot!God hates fags.Romans 1:26-32 and Leviticus 18:22.
Homosexuality is a filthy and vile sin.Leviticus 18:22 and Romans 1:26-32.Abortion is a murder and genocide.GLBT agenda and abortions doom America.God hates fags and fag enablers.
GLBT people who are now in Hell:
Matthew Shepard,Diane Whipple,Del Martin,Kermit Love,Heath Ledger(straight gay enabler)
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12-18-2008, 09:18 PM
those quotes have been in many of the posts i have read, and it doesnt blatently say kill gays. god gave people free will.
and the bible isnt written by god. messengers of god. the disciples, believers.
i believe one of the ten commandments is something like
love thy neighbour?
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12-18-2008, 09:23 PM
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those quotes have been in many of the posts i have read, and it doesnt blatently say kill gays. god gave people free will.
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Really?
Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
What does that say?
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i believe one of the ten commandments is something like
love thy neighbour?
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Um, no. It's not.
I believe you need to familiarize yourself with the Bible.
Here's a delightful piece on the Ten Commandments.
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12-19-2008, 12:08 AM
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i believe one of the ten commandments is something like
love thy neighbour?
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None of my neighbors are queers.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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12-19-2008, 01:27 AM
Only when sodomites repent of their gay sin and turn to Jesus,they are new men.No homosexuals will enter Heaven,1Corinthians 6:9-10.You can't serve two masters sin and God.
Homosexuality is a filthy and vile sin.Leviticus 18:22 and Romans 1:26-32.Abortion is a murder and genocide.GLBT agenda and abortions doom America.God hates fags and fag enablers.
GLBT people who are now in Hell:
Matthew Shepard,Diane Whipple,Del Martin,Kermit Love,Heath Ledger(straight gay enabler)
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12-19-2008, 03:18 AM
Some people have the potential to be saved, and some don't. The homersexurals and their apologists don't have that potential. Therefore, you're already in hell for apologizing for the homersexurals and their satanic recruiting techniques. I hope you enjoy Satan's violent, un-lubricated anal rape for your eternity in hell.
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12-19-2008, 03:24 AM
Most fags and dykes die as they are and burn in Hell.Only few people who repent of homosexuality and turn to Jesus to be saved.
Homosexuality is a filthy and vile sin.Leviticus 18:22 and Romans 1:26-32.Abortion is a murder and genocide.GLBT agenda and abortions doom America.God hates fags and fag enablers.
GLBT people who are now in Hell:
Matthew Shepard,Diane Whipple,Del Martin,Kermit Love,Heath Ledger(straight gay enabler)
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Re: homosexuality & logic. -
12-19-2008, 03:27 AM
Oh brother, here we go again.
So if we just throw away all our morals and accept gay people, what next? If we accept the gays, then we have to accept the polygamists. Then the pedophiles. Then the necrophiliacs, and all other kinds of perverted people I don't even want to disgrace these GODly forums by mentioning!
The Bible says they should die, and the Bible doesn't lie.
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12-19-2008, 03:35 AM
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Oh brother, here we go again.
So if we just throw away all our morals and accept gay people, what next? If we accept the gays, then we have to accept the polygamists. Then the pedophiles. Then the necrophiliacs, and all other kinds of perverted people I don't even want to disgrace these GODly forums by mentioning!
The Bible says they should die, and the Bible doesn't lie.
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No one dares to accept faggots,pedophiles,rapists,prostitutes,and other immorals.It would be better if there be the law that will criminalize fag behavior.For example, in Soviet Russia faggotry was a felony and was punishable by 5 years in concentration camps.
Homosexuality is a filthy and vile sin.Leviticus 18:22 and Romans 1:26-32.Abortion is a murder and genocide.GLBT agenda and abortions doom America.God hates fags and fag enablers.
GLBT people who are now in Hell:
Matthew Shepard,Diane Whipple,Del Martin,Kermit Love,Heath Ledger(straight gay enabler)
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12-19-2008, 03:37 AM
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For example, in Soviet Russia faggotry was a felony and was punishable by 5 years in concentration camps.
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Well the old commies at least got ONE thing right.
We could get a lot more work done here in the states if we took all of them queers and put them to work in factories.
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Re: homosexuality & logic. -
12-19-2008, 05:27 AM
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i thought that your god taught you to accept people whatever their creed, or colour. whether rich or poor, black or white, why is gay or straight left out of this equation? gay's and lesbians have accepted themselves, and if they believe in god then they must know that god's accepted them too, however the sons and daughters of your god havent', so why dont you begin to become more accepting? its not a matter of forgiveness because they have done nothing wrong.
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You seem to be confusing the constitution and the bill of rights with religious freedom. It's the GOVERNMENT which has screwed itself into having to hire any number of homers, beaners or women, not the Church. A church isn't a government body, and doesn't have to conform to the bill of rights.
May you be a blessing to every life you touch.
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Re: homosexuality & logic. -
12-19-2008, 10:58 AM
Enough is enough! Homosexuality is a sin . All those who practice it are possessed by demons! Remember that Our Lord Jesus Himself preached the need to deal drastically against sexual sin (Matthew 5:30) .
Death is too good for them.
Joshua 24:15
And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
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