[Wide-Open]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

Did she keep the Prayer Warriors stocked with bacon sandwiches? I specifically told her about that.

Pastor, she is a woman. Yes, of course, a True Christian™ one, but, nevertheless, just a woman. So what are the odds?

I see that Seth and James are already on the verge of starting a fight, just because Seth's wife didn't know how to handle this little problem. Even though we all did our best to help her, and Seth was away for serious business.

Seth, James, make up, calm down, and see who is REALLY making a mess of things.

'nuff said.

[BelieverInGod]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

Did she keep the Prayer Warriors stocked with bacon sandwiches? I specifically told her about that.

Yes, bacon on toast with butter and miracle whip, no lettuce, no tomato.

Anyway, just popping in to ask, could this be because of Seth's lack of being at home, forcing me to take a more manly role? For our taxes last year we figured out that he was on the road 200 out of 365 days.

I'm still trying to figure out how to improve my faith, perhaps a 40 day fast? I don't know.

[Lauren]

To the parents of the child who swallowed the string: I'm sorry you were so scared for your child's health. I hope you don't think of yourself as any less of a Christian just because of this health scare. These things happen to everyone, whether you've sinned or not. I hope your child has a speedy and successful recovery. I also hope that next time something like this happens, you'll go with your parental instincts and protect your child however you can and deal with your fellow church members later.


Ok some of the replies to this woman's question really disturbed me. I don't care how strong your faith in prayer is or whether you're a True Christian or not. Seth's right, What do you think God gave us hospitals for? I mean, really. Reading this was like hearing the joke about Christians.

There was an old man sitting on his porch watching the rain fall. Pretty soon the water was coming over the porch and into the house.

The old man was still sitting there when a rescue boat came and the people on board said, "You can't stay here you have to come with us."

The old man replied, "No, God will save me." So the boat left. A little while later the water was up to the second floor, and another rescue boat came, and again told the old man he had to come with them.

The old man again replied, "God will save me." So the boat left him again.

An hour later the water was up to the roof and a third rescue boat approached the old man, and tried to get him to come with them.

Again the old man refused to leave stating that, "God will grant a miracle & save him." So the boat left him again.

Soon after, the man drowns and goes to heaven, and when he sees God he asks him, "Why didn't you save me? I thought you would grand me a miracle and you have let me down."

God replied, "You idiot, I don't know what you're complaining about. I sent three boats after you!!"

God sent boats to this guy and he didn't take the opportunity. God gave you hospitals and almost none of you would have taken your child to the hospital. I guess you don't think hospitals can diagnose or cure "demons". Good thing it was a ball of string and they were able to remove it.

[Phebe Carlyle]

Originally Posted by Lauren

To the parents of the child who swallowed the string: I'm sorry you were so scared for your child's health. I hope you don't think of yourself as any less of a Christian just because of this health scare. These things happen to everyone, whether you've sinned or not. I hope your child has a speedy and successful recovery. I also hope that next time something like this happens, you'll go with your parental instincts and protect your child however you can and deal with your fellow church members later.


Ok some of the replies to this woman's question really disturbed me. I don't care how strong your faith in prayer is or whether you're a True Christian or not. Seth's right, What do you think God gave us hospitals for? I mean, really. Reading this was like hearing the joke about Christians.

God sent boats to this guy and he didn't take the opportunity. God gave you hospitals and almost none of you would have taken your child to the hospital. I guess you don't think hospitals can diagnose or cure "demons". Good thing it was a ball of string and they were able to remove it.

Sister Big lives in Iowa so no boat can even get to her. What ARE you on about?

YIC

Mrs Phebe Dewitt

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by Wide-Open

Pastor, she is a woman. Yes, of course, a True Christian™ one, but, nevertheless, just a woman. So what are the odds?

I see that Seth and James are already on the verge of starting a fight, just because Seth's wife didn't know how to handle this little problem. Even though we all did our best to help her, and Seth was away for serious business.

Seth, James, make up, calm down, and see who is REALLY making a mess of things.

'nuff said.

Me? Fight? I am the most peaceful living man on the planet who is not a Reverend or a Pastor.
My concern was for Gods wrath upon Seth for deyning the glorious destiny baby Jesus had all planned out for his son. When God unleashes His fury upon him in great waves of locusts, I do not want to be nearby. Can you blame me?

I agree W-O, it is always the woman making a big to-do about nothing.

[Lauren]

Phebe, I was using this joke as a comparison to the situation these parents found themselves in. All I'm trying to do is show my support for their situation and also point out the paramilitaries between the joke and how the people on this board actually reacted to the situation. I'm aware that three boats didn't approach them, I'm just trying to make a point.

[Phebe Carlyle]

Originally Posted by Lauren

Phebe, I was using this joke as a comparison to the situation these parents found themselves in. All I'm trying to do is show my support for their situation and also point out the paramilitaries between the joke and how the people on this board actually reacted to the situation. I'm aware that three boats didn't approach them, I'm just trying to make a point.

Do you mean parallels rather than paramilitaries?

I digress, Sister Big asked for advice as Brother Seth was not available at the time. He was not on a boat.

With due respect too Lauren, I do believe she was asking True Christians THEIR opinions on the situation and did not expect some unsaved trash to pip in and JOKE about her very emotional and upsetting situation.

How is joking showing her ANY support!

YIC

Mrs Phebe Dewitt.

PS. As to your hospital "solution". Yes they are lucky it was something more minor, but hospitals also give some creepy false hope when it is something more serious. Only God has the capability of TRUE healing.

Also, my name is MRS Phebe Dewitt. Do not show familiarity with me, missy.

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by Lauren

Phebe, I was using this joke as a comparison to the situation these parents found themselves in. All I'm trying to do is show my support for their situation and also point out the paramilitaries between the joke and how the people on this board actually reacted to the situation. I'm aware that three boats didn't approach them, I'm just trying to make a point.

Life and death is no joke, missy, it is not funny to make light of other peoples misery!

[Lauren]

If you would please refer to my previous messages, you would see that I am trying to SYMPATHIZE the the family involved.
The only thing I was trying to say other than that is that I was amazed at the kind of reaction the rest of the forum had. But this place IS a joke, so I don't see why you're even sending me warnings about this.

[Phebe Carlyle]

Originally Posted by Lauren

If you would please refer to my previous messages, you would see that I am trying to SYMPATHIZE the the family involved.
The only thing I was trying to say other than that is that I was amazed at the kind of reaction the rest of the forum had. But this place IS a joke, so I don't see why you're even sending me warnings about this.

You with your satanic mind may well think our concern for Sister Big is all a JOKE, but we take her concerns quite seriously!

Why are you so mean hearted?

Do you want to end up in hell?

YIC

Mrs Phebe Dewitt.

[Lauren]

HA! You're one to talk! All of you are spreading hate! I came onto this message board trying to spread love, and look what happened.
I DONT THINK THE LITTLE BOY WHO SWALLOWED STRING IS FUNNY! I HONESTLY JUST HOPE HE RECOVERS WELL!
You are SO lucky this church is real or I would report you people to the authorities for just about everything. You people are SICK

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by Lauren

HA! You're one to talk! All of you are spreading hate! I came onto this message board trying to spread love, and look what happened.
I DONT THINK THE LITTLE BOY WHO SWALLOWED STRING IS FUNNY! I HONESTLY JUST HOPE HE RECOVERS WELL!
You are SO lucky this church is real or I would report you people to the authorities for just about everything. You people are SICK

You are the one making jokes about the near death of one of Gods precious babies. I have filed a complaint about you to the DoF. And no, I am not sick, I feel fine. As a True Christian™, I never get sick.

[Cranky Old Man]

Originally Posted by Lauren

Phebe, I was using this joke as a

A women is in panic over her ill child and you start making jokes?

You are a horrible horrible person. Fortunately Jesus loves us so much that will have you burn in hell for all eternity for this.

[Brother Temperance]

Originally Posted by Lauren

Phebe, I was using this joke as a comparison to the situation these parents found themselves in. All I'm trying to do is show my support for their situation and also point out the paramilitaries between the joke and how the people on this board actually reacted to the situation. I'm aware that three boats didn't approach them, I'm just trying to make a point.

I'm scared. Where are the paramilitaries? Are they working for the UN/NWObama?

[Seth Campbell]

Originally Posted by Wide-Open

Pastor, she is a woman. Yes, of course, a True Christian™ one, but, nevertheless, just a woman. So what are the odds?

I see that Seth and James are already on the verge of starting a fight, just because Seth's wife didn't know how to handle this little problem. Even though we all did our best to help her, and Seth was away for serious business.

Seth, James, make up, calm down, and see who is REALLY making a mess of things.

'nuff said.

She didn't know how to handle it because she's got you people telling her that "prayer is good enough". Don't get me wrong, I am praying for my son's recovery, but I wasn't about to wait for God to get around to unblocking his intestines when a doctor can do it in less than an hour. Also there was the chance that it was appendicitis.

Originally Posted by Lauren

If you would please refer to my previous messages, you would see that I am trying to SYMPATHIZE the the family involved.
The only thing I was trying to say other than that is that I was amazed at the kind of reaction the rest of the forum had. But this place IS a joke, so I don't see why you're even sending me warnings about this.

Well, so my sons illness is a joke, isn't that wonderful. I am always amazed by the tolerance and love shown by the atheists that show up here.

[BelieverInGod]

With due respect too Lauren, I do believe she was asking True Christians THEIR opinions on the situation and did not expect some unsaved trash to pip in and JOKE about her very emotional and upsetting situation.

How is joking showing her ANY support!

Thank you sister, I'm still shaken up about it. Seth went to go get Mark today and he's still not speaking to me. I'm still wondering if this is because of my lack of faith, or because I didn't know what my husbands wishes would be in this situation, or what I did wrong. I do worry that his job takes him away from Jesus sometimes. The way he gets so excited about some new breakthrough in medical technology..... well I just wish he would get that excited about Jesus.

Was my anxiety proof of my lack of faith?

PS. As to your hospital "solution". Yes they are lucky it was something more minor, but hospitals also give some creepy false hope when it is something more serious. Only God has the capability of TRUE healing.

See, if I had enough faith, wouldn't the string just have passed through? I'm still wondering where he got the string from. I guess the doctors told Seth that this is the exact same symptoms of an appendicitis, and if it had been that Mark would be dead.

I am so confused right now, and Seth is so mad he won't even acknowledge my existence. He's living in his office for the past few days and wont even come out for meals.

Originally Posted by Seth Campbell

She didn't know how to handle it because she's got you people telling her that "prayer is good enough". Don't get me wrong, I am praying for my son's recovery, but I wasn't about to wait for God to get around to unblocking his intestines when a doctor can do it in less than an hour. Also there was the chance that it was appendicitis.

Seth, please come upstairs so we can talk

[Phebe Carlyle]

Originally Posted by BelieverInGod

Thank you sister, I'm still shaken up about it. Seth went to go get Mark today and he's still not speaking to me. I'm still wondering if this is because of my lack of faith, or because I didn't know what my husbands wishes would be in this situation, or what I did wrong. I do worry that his job takes him away from Jesus sometimes. The way he gets so excited about some new breakthrough in medical technology..... well I just wish he would get that excited about Jesus.

Oh Sister, don't be too hard on yourself. Of course you are shaken up as your son was very ill.

Also, as you were unable to get in touch with Seth at the time, you did the right thing by asking the Pastors for advice. They are men of God and they would know the right thing to do.

Something too, I don't know if it is right for you to be assumed to read minds as this situation was a unique one. How could you possibly know what Seth would be thinking in this situation, considering this has never happened before? (and hopefully will never happen again)

Was my anxiety proof of my lack of faith?

No not at all. You love your son so it is normal, even with the more than mustard seed of faith in Jesus. Anxiety is an emotion we all feel and it has NOTHING to with lack of faith. Remember, God does not offer us a way out of the testings of life. He offers us a way through, and that makes all the difference and part of that way through, is feeling these different emotions.

See, if I had enough faith, wouldn't the string just have passed through? I'm still wondering where he got the string from. I guess the doctors told Seth that this is the exact same symptoms of an appendicitis, and if it had been that Mark would be dead.

Well, not having children of my own, I have no idea where or how they get their hands on things. I don't think it is best to dwell on that side of it anymore as what's done is done and trying to work that out will not change anything one dot!

Whether it would have just passed through is anyone's guess. Only God really knows if that would have happened, Sister.

It seems that Seth was covering all bases. It is not my business to comment on his amble with Jesus.

I am so confused right now, and Seth is so mad he won't even acknowledge my existence. He's living in his office for the past few days and wont even come out for meals.

Would you like me to ask James if he will call Seth? Perhaps some time in the Man Cave will help your husband chill out some. Remember he has been working a lot. A "man-date" may just do the trick to help him relax a little.

If he does come over here, I could then pop over to your place and we can have a nice gal chat.

What do you say, Liz?

YIC

Phebe.

[James Dewitt]

Sister BIG, Phebe's is right. I am calling Seth right now. Just cracked open a new bottle of Scotch and am going to catch a Monster truck race. My man cave is his man cave.

[handmaiden]

Brothers and Sisters, was not the Apostle Luke a physician?

It seems to me that God wants us to avail ourselves of all His Blessings. Prayer comes first, last and always. After the opening prayer, a Christian doctor can be consulted. The first thing that the doctor will do is pray, of course.

As the doctor proceeds with his tests, etc, prayer should accompany him through each step. If God chooses to give the doctor the skill to resolve the medical issue, then the child will live and God's Will shall be done and praised.

If God chooses to allow the illness and/or demon possession to continue, then the child will die and God's Will shall be done and praised. We give thanks and glory to God simply because He Is; not because of what He may or may not choose to do.

So, it seems like the safest plan is to seek out a Christian doctor (need I indicate that the doctor be a man?) and pray, pray, pray. You can never go wrong with prayer, because it's God's favorite form of communication. Taking an ill person to a doctor doesn't seem like a lack of faith, but rather an opportunity to show that God's healing power never fails. Even if the patient dies, when we give glory to Jesus and shout to the world that we trust Him,. people will see that Jesus looks out for us

If the doctor saves someone, we know it is because God willed it so. If the doctors fail, we know that it is because God willed it so. If the doctors give up and the patient lives, then God is really having a great day. Don't ever pass up an opportunity to make God look good. You never know when He feels like showing off.

Logically Yours,

Handmaiden

[Moogitar (On Moderation)]

I have a great idea. Bring the child to the hospital, and then pray for him. Why settle for only one option?