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The Ungodly Origins of St. Valentine's Day -
02-04-2007, 12:59 PM
ST. VALENTINE'S DAY
Christian Custom? -- or Pagan Holiday?
WHERE DID St. Valentine's Day come from?
You might suppose school teachers and educators would know. But do they? How many of you were ever taught the real origin of Valentine's Day? Where you ever told in school WHY you should observe the custom of exchanging valentines? Well I want to show you God's TRUTH on this subject.
The Silence of Educators
Teachers are all too often silent about the origin of the customs they are forced to teach in today's schools! If they were to speak out, many would lose their jobs!
Isn't it time we examined why we encourage our children to celebrate St. Valentine's Day -- when it is never so much as mentioned in the Bible as a practice of the True Christian™ Church?
Today, candymakers unload tons of heart-shaped red boxes for February 14, while millions of the younger set are annually exchanging valentines. Florists consider February 14 -- St. Valentine's Day -- as one of their best business days. And young lovers pair off -- at least for a dance or two -- at St. Valentine's balls.
Why? Where did these customs originate? Where do we find any such practices in the Bible? How did we come to inherit these customs?
A True Christian™ Custom?
Did you know that centuries before Christ, the pagan Romans celebrated February 15 and the evening of February 14 as an idolatrous and sensuous festival in honor of Lupercus, the "hunter of wolves"?
The Romans called the festival the "Lupercalia." The custom of exchanging valentines and all the other traditions in honor of Lupercus -- the deified hero-hunter of Rome -- was also linked anciently with the pagan practice of teen-agers "going steady." It usually led to fornication. Today, the custom of "going steady" is thought very modern. It isn't. It is merely a rebirth of an old custom "handed down from the Roman festival of the Lupercalia, celebrated in the month of February, when names of young women were put into a box and drawn out by men as chance directed." That's the admission of the "Encyclopedia Americana", article, "St. Valentine's Day."
When Constantine made Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire there was some talk in church circles of discarding this pagan free-for-all. But the Roman citizens wouldn't hear of it! So it was agreed that the holiday would continue as it was, except for the more grossly sensual observances.
It was not until the reign of Pope Gelasius that the holiday became a "Christian custom." As far back as 496, Pope Gelasius changed Lupercalia on February 15 to St. Valentine's Day on February 14." (p. 172 of "Customs and Holidays Around the World" by Lavinia Dobler).
But how did this pagan festival acquire the name of "St. Valentine's Day"? And why is the little naked Cupid of the pagan Romans so often associated today with February 14? And why do little children and young people still cut out hearts and send them on a day in honor of Lupercus the hunter of wolves? Why have we supposed these pagan customs in honor of a false god are Christian?
Who Was the Original "St. Valentine"?
Valentine was a common Roman name. Roman parents often gave the name to their children in honor of the famous man who was first called Valentine in antiquity. That famous man was Lupercus, the HUNTER. But who was Lupercus? -- and why should he have also borne the name Valentine among the heathen Romans?
The Greeks called Lupercus by the name of "Pan". The Semites called Pan "Baal," according to the "Classical Dictionaries". Baal -- mentioned so often in the Bible -- was merely another name for Nimrod, "the mighty HUNTER" ( Genesis 10:9 He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD. ). The hunter Nimrod was the Lupercus -- or wolf hunter -- of the Romans. And St. Valentine's Day was originally a day set aside by the pagans in his honor!
But why should Nimrod have been called "Valentine" by the Romans? And why should the celebration of this day have been anciently limited to the city of Rome before Pope Gelasius' time? What part did the site of ancient Rome play in the life of Nimrod?
Valentine comes from the Latin word "Valentinus", a proper name derived from the word "valens", meaning "to be strong," declares "Webster's Unabridged Dictionary". It means literally "strong, powerful, mighty." Any connection with Nimrod? We read in the Bible that Nimrod was the "MIGHTY hunter" (Gen. 10:9). It was a common proverb of ancient time that Nimrod was "the MIGHTY hunter before the Lord." NIMROD WAS THEIR HERO -- THEIR STRONG MAN -- THEIR VALENTINE!
How plain that the original Valentine was Nimrod, the mighty hunter of wolves. Yet another of Nimrod's names was "Sanctus" or "Santa," meaning "Saint." It was a common title of any hero-god. No wonder that the Roman Lupercalia is called "Saint Valentine's Day"!
But why do we associate HEARTS on a day in honor of Nimrod -- the BAAL of the Phoenicians and Semites?
The surprising answer is that the pagan Romans acquired the symbol of the heart from the Babylonians. In the Babylonian tongue the word for "heart" was "bal" (see "Young's" or "Strong's Concordance"). The heart -- "bal" -- was merely a symbol of Nimrod -- the "Baal" or Lord of the Babylonians!
Executed at Rome
Nimrod -- THE ORIGINAL ST. VALENTINE -- was also known as Saturn, the Roman-Babylonian god who HID from his pursuers in a secret place. The Latin word Saturn is derived from the Semitic-speaking Babylonians. It means "be hid," "hide self," "secret," "conceal." The original Semitic (Hebrew) word, from which the Latin Saturn is derived, is used 83 times in the Old Testament (see "Young's Concordance" under "Sathar," also "sether").
According to ancient tradition, Saturn (Nimrod) fled from his pursuers to Italy. The Apennine mountains of Italy were anciently named the mountains of Nembrod or Nimrod. Nimrod briefly hid out at the site where Rome was later built. The ancient name of Rome, before it was rebuilt in 753 B.C., was Saturnia -- the site of Saturn's (Nimrod's) hiding. There he was found and slain for his crimes. Later, professing Christians in Constantine's day made Nimrod -- the St. Valentine of the heathen -- a SAINT of the Church and continued to honor him under the name of a Christian martyr.
Why February 14?
But why should the Romans have chosen February 15 and the evening of February 14 to honor Lupercus -- the Nimrod of the Bible? (Remember that days in ancient times began at sunset the evening before.)
Nimrod -- the Baal or sun god of the ancient pagans -- was said to have been born at the winter solstice. In ancient times the solstice occurred on January 6 and his birthday therefore was celebrated on January 6. Later, as the solstice changed, it was celebrated on December 25 and is now called Christmas. It was the custom of antiquity for the mother of a male child to present herself for purification on the fortieth day after the day of birth. The fortieth day after January 6 -- Nimrod's original birthdate -- takes us to February 15, the celebration of which began on the evening of February 14 -- the Lupercalia or St. Valentine's Day.
On this day in February, Semiramis, the mother of Nimrod, was said to have been PURIFIED and to have appeared for the first time in public with her son as the original "mother and child."
The Roman month February, in fact, derives its name from the "februa" which the Roman priests used in the rites celebrated on St. Valentine's Day. The "februa" were thongs from the skins of sacrificial animals used in rites of purification on the evening of February 14.
Cupid Makes His Appearance
Another name for the child Nimrod was "Cupid" -- meaning "desire" ("Encyclopedia Britannica", art., "Cupid"). It is said that when Nimrod's mother saw him, she LUSTED after him -- she DESIRED him. Nimrod became her Cupid -- her desired one -- and later her Valentine! So evil was Nimrod's mother that IT IS SAID SHE MARRIED HER OWN SON! Inscribed on the monuments of ancient Egypt are inscriptions that Nimrod (the Egyptians called him Osiris) was "the husband of his mother."
As Nimrod grew up, he became the child-hero of MANY women who DESIRED him. He was their Cupid! In the Book of Daniel he is called the "DESIRE of women" ( Daniel 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. ). Moffatt translates the word as Tammuz -- a Babylonian name of Nimrod. He provoked so many women to JEALOUSY that an idol of him was often called the "image of jealousy" ( Ezekiel 8:5 Then said he unto me, Son of man, lift up thine eyes now the way toward the north. So I lifted up mine eyes the way toward the north, and behold northward at the gate of the altar this image of jealousy in the entry. ). Nimrod, the hunter, was also their Valentine -- their strong or mighty hero! No wonder the pagans commemorated their hero-hunter Nimrod, or Baal, by sending heartshaped love tokens to one another on the evening of February 14 as a symbol of him.
Nimrod, the mulatto son of Cush the Ethiopian, was later a source of embarrassment to the pagans of Europe. They didn't want an African to worship. Consequently, they substituted a supposed son of Nimrod, a white child named Horus, born after the death of Nimrod. This white child then became the "fair cupid" of European tradition.
It is about time we examined these foolish customs of the pagans now falsely labeled Christian. It is time we quit this Roman and Babylonian foolishness -- this IDOLATRY -- and get back to the faith of Christ delivered once for all time.
Let's stop teaching our children these pagan customs in memory of Baal the sun god -- the original St. Valentine -- and teach them instead what the Bible really says!
And ladies, this means that you shouldn't expect any chocolates from now on, got it?
This lecture brought to you by Herman L. Hoeh ©1966
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: The Ungodly Origins of St. Valentine's Day -
02-05-2007, 01:29 PM
Actually, for your information, most holidays have a Pagan origin. For example, Halloween was originally the Pagan celebration of All Hallows Eve. Also, while Christians are celebrating the birth of Christ during Christmas, Pagans are happily celebrating the festival of Yule.
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02-05-2007, 01:37 PM
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Actually, for your information, most holidays have a Pagan origin. For example, Halloween was originally the Pagan celebration of All Hallows Eve. Also, while Christians are celebrating the birth of Christ during Christmas, Pagans are happily celebrating the festival of Yule.
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Actually helloween was supposed to be celebrated on the eve of the atumn equinox. Christmas is usually several days after the winter solstice. I could go into more detail, but it's usually pointless.
All of these days were settled at the council of Nicea, when emperor Constantine founded the cathylick chruch.
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02-05-2007, 05:27 PM
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Actually, for your information, most holidays have a Pagan origin. For example, Halloween was originally the Pagan celebration of All Hallows Eve. Also, while Christians are celebrating the birth of Christ during Christmas, Pagans are happily celebrating the festival of Yule.
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02-05-2007, 06:24 PM
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Actually, for your information, most holidays have a Pagan origin. For example, Halloween was originally the Pagan celebration of All Hallows Eve. Also, while Christians are celebrating the birth of Christ during Christmas, Pagans are happily celebrating the festival of Yule.
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That post started and ended pretty okay. But there's no such Pagan holiday as All Hallows Eve, that's a Catholic thing (just like All Saints Day). Halloween is Samhain (pronounced sowwin) in disguise, just like Easter is Ostara in disguise.
And to Pastor Zeke: I'm pretty sure that everyone knows that Valentine's Day is Pagan in origin.
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02-05-2007, 10:44 PM
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That post started and ended pretty okay. But there's no such Pagan holiday as All Hallows Eve, that's a Catholic thing (just like All Saints Day). Halloween is Samhain (pronounced sowwin) in disguise, just like Easter is Ostara in disguise.
And to Pastor Zeke: I'm pretty sure that everyone knows that Valentine's Day is Pagan in origin.
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This "in disguise", that "in disguise" . . . what's next to be in disguise?
Yes, everything is just a vast conspiracy to hide paganism from modern eyes. Because pagans were so very successful that they took over the entire world through corporations.
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02-06-2007, 03:42 AM
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Actually, for your information, most holidays have a Pagan origin. For example, Halloween was originally the Pagan celebration of All Hallows Eve. Also, while Christians are celebrating the birth of Christ during Christmas, Pagans are happily celebrating the festival of Yule.
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02-06-2007, 05:27 AM
Nothing wrong with correcting someone if they made a mistake about a subject. Correcting helps stop misunderstanding, stupidity and ignorance, which, in my opinion, should be the top 3 sins.
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Just who do you think you are, correcting a Pastor? The Bible clearly states that you, as the unsaved trash that you are, have no place in trying to correct one of the Saved.
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02-07-2007, 06:29 PM
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Nothing wrong with correcting someone if they made a mistake about a subject. Correcting helps stop misunderstanding, stupidity and ignorance, which, in my opinion, should be the top 3 sins.
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02-07-2007, 11:36 PM
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Ahh, those were the days!
And who's to say that (well, a more modernized/toned down version) couldn't still happen?
Wake up and smell the 21st Century!!
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02-07-2007, 11:42 PM
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Ahh, those were the days!
And who's to say that (well, a more modernized/toned down version) couldn't still happen?
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Filthy witch! Stop trying to force your perverted wolf-fornicating festivals on unsuspecting True Christians™!
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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02-08-2007, 12:05 AM
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Filthy witch! Stop trying to force your perverted wolf-fornicating festivals on unsuspecting True Christians™!
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Nonsense.
I think you could all do with some nice, healthy fornication. It'd no doubt improve those nasty tempers a great deal.
Wake up and smell the 21st Century!!
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02-08-2007, 12:24 AM
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Nonsense.
I think you could all do with some nice, healthy fornication. It'd no doubt improve those nasty tempers a great deal.
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So you going to put your name into the lottery there Rachael?
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Nah, such a thing I'd celebrate with my husband.
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My brothers hold no love for the Romans either, but they did do one thing right. They didn't let the old ways die. Even your early Christians knew the truth of our teachings. They merely changed the names of them.
When your St. Patrick came to "drive the snakes" from Ireland, he used the symbol of a clover to describe your divine beliefs. He said that the father, son, and holy ghost were but parts of the whole. When the people heard this, they laughed at him. They'd already known this for centuries. Everything in life has its parts that are one. Three is a "holy" number if you will. We are born, we live, then we die. Women are virgin, mother, and crone. The cycles of nature are birth, death, and rebirth.
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My brothers hold no love for the Romans either, but they did do one thing right. They didn't let the old ways die. Even your early Christians knew the truth of our teachings. They merely changed the names of them.
When your St. Patrick came to "drive the snakes" from Ireland, he used the symbol of a clover to describe your divine beliefs. He said that the father, son, and holy ghost were but parts of the whole. When the people heard this, they laughed at him. They'd already known this for centuries. Everything in life has its parts that are one. Three is a "holy" number if you will. We are born, we live, then we die. Women are virgin, mother, and crone. The cycles of nature are birth, death, and rebirth.
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So you're a drunk mick, huh? What is all this claptrap about holy numbers and virgins? You must be some kind of witch as well....
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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02-08-2007, 12:57 PM
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So you're a drunk mick, huh? What is all this claptrap about holy numbers and virgins? You must be some kind of witch as well....
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You have so much anger for a once-born. You need to shed that anger, or you will continue to be sent back to earth, at least until He who is unknowable decides you are lost.
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Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: The Ungodly Origins of St. Valentine's Day -
02-08-2007, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel
who is this "he who is unknowable"? Your bookie?
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That is the force of the universe. Man made gods are but shadows to the power that is beyond. Remember that all gods are one.
Do what you will, harm none, but embrace each life as if it's your last.
Last edited by Arch Druid; 02-08-2007 at 01:00 PM.
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