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Re: New Christian -
04-14-2014, 06:31 PM
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Scripture tells us that the Word is God and that the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost are one:
[John 1:1 KJV] 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[1 John 5:7 KJV] 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
And who is the Word? That's right: The Word is Jesus Christ:
[John 1:14-17 KJV] 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. 16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. 17 For the law was given by Moses, [but] grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
So the Bible confirms that Jesus is God and is one with the Father. Since we don't believe in cherry-picking and twisting verses to make the Bible sound internally contradictory, something that God's Word just cannot be, it's obvious that the verses that you have cited need to be read consistently with those that we True Christians™ have cited.
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How come Jesus Christ did not know the time of His return being that you say He is God.
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Re: New Christian -
04-14-2014, 06:40 PM
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How come Jesus Christ did not know the time of His return being that you say He is God.
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Unless the Bible says something, I cannot comment on why God chooses to share some information, but not other information, among Himselves:
[Isaiah 55:8-9 KJV] 8 For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD. 9 For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
I do know that the Bible verses that I and others have quoted show that Jesus is God, and you haven't rebutted our explanation.
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04-14-2014, 06:44 PM
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Unless the Bible says something, I cannot comment on why God chooses to share some information, but not other information, among Himselves:
[Isaiah 55:8-9 KJV] 8 For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD. 9 For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
I do know that the Bible verses that I and others have quoted show that Jesus is God, and you haven't rebutted our explanation.
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Jesus was a man. He has a soul.
Does God have a soul?
If God has a soul, then how can God be Jesus.
If God does not have a soul, then how can God be Jesus?
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Re: New Christian -
04-14-2014, 06:48 PM
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Jesus was a man. He has a soul.
Does God have a soul?
If God has a soul, then how can God be Jesus.
If God does not have a soul, then how can God be Jesus?
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Your problem, dear friend, is that you are trying to figure things out for yourself instead of simply taking God's word for it, which is not how God wants you to do things:
[Proverbs 3:5-6 KJV] 5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
If the Bible says that the Word is God, that Jesus is the Word, and that Jesus was not in possession of certain information, then we must accept all of those things as true. God said it; Christians must believe it; that settles it.
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Re: New Christian -
04-14-2014, 06:55 PM
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Your problem, dear friend, is that you are trying to figure things out for yourself instead of simply taking God's word for it, which is not how God wants you to do things:
[Proverbs 3:5-6 KJV] 5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
If the Bible says that the Word is God, that Jesus is the Word, and that Jesus was not in possession of certain information, then we must accept all of those things as true. God said it; Christians must believe it; that settles it.
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You want me to believe
that Jesus was God but yet did not
know the time of His return which only God knew?
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Re: New Christian -
04-14-2014, 06:58 PM
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You want me to believe
that Jesus was God but yet did not
know the time of His return which only God knew?
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If that's what the Bible says, then yes.
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04-14-2014, 07:03 PM
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If that's what the Bible says, then yes.
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I cannot believe
there are 2 Gods.
I can only believe
there is 1 God.
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Re: New Christian -
04-14-2014, 07:07 PM
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I cannot believe
there are 2 Gods.
I can only believe
there is 1 God.
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Who said anything about two gods? See 1 John 5:7, already quoted to you.
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Re: New Christian -
04-14-2014, 07:08 PM
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I cannot believe
there are 2 Gods.
I can only believe
there is 1 God.
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Well now you're on the right track! There IS only One God, One Perfect, Holy, Triune, Mind Bogglingly Mysterious God!
Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
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Re: New Christian -
04-14-2014, 07:14 PM
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Who said anything about two gods? See 1 John 5:7, already quoted to you.
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I can only believe Jesus art the Christ the Son of the Living God.
I can't believe Jesus art the Christ the Living God.
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Re: New Christian -
04-14-2014, 07:17 PM
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I can only believe Jesus art the Christ the Son of the Living God.
I can't believe Jesus art the Christ the Living God.
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You can't believe what the Bible tells you about Christ? Do you know the nature of God better than God Himself does?
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04-14-2014, 07:22 PM
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You can't believe what the Bible tells you about Christ?
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Yes, I believe this.
Matthew, Chapter 16
13:When Jesus came into the coasts
of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples,
saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
14:And they said, Some say that thou art
John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias,
or one of the prophets.
15:He saith unto them,
But whom say ye that I am?
16:And Simon Peter answered and said,
Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17:And Jesus answered and said unto him,
Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona:
for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee,
but my Father which is in heaven.
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Re: New Christian -
04-14-2014, 07:26 PM
Of course Jesus is the Son of God. When did any of us say that He isn't? The fact is that Jesus is both God and the Son of God:
[John 20:26-31 KJV] 26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: [then] came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace [be] unto you. 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust [it] into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. 29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed [are] they that have not seen, and [yet] have believed. 30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: 31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
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Re: New Christian -
04-14-2014, 07:33 PM
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Of course Jesus is the Son of God. When did any of us say that He isn't? The fact is that Jesus is both God and the Son of God:
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Jesus is the Son of the living God. Jesus is not the living God.
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Re: New Christian -
04-14-2014, 07:37 PM
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Jesus is the Son of the living God. Jesus is not the living God.
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So, when He says He is One with the Father, you know better?
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Re: New Christian -
04-14-2014, 07:37 PM
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Jesus is the Son of the living God. Jesus is not the living God.
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We've quoted you an abundance of Bible passages showing that Jesus is God. Why do you not believe any of them? God wants us to believe the entire Bible, not just a few cherry-picked bits.
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Re: New Christian -
04-14-2014, 07:46 PM
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So, when He says He is One with the Father, you know better?
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When Jesus said God was greater than he I knew better.
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Re: New Christian -
04-14-2014, 07:49 PM
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When Jesus said God was greater than he I knew better.
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God-the-Father is greater than God-the-Son. Both are the One True God. Why do you ignore when He references this fact? What's in it for you to reject His claim? What do you get out of believing you know better about the nature of God than God Himselves?
Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
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Re: New Christian -
04-14-2014, 07:51 PM
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When Jesus said God was greater than he I knew better.
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How do you decide which statements of Jesus to accept? If He said both of those things, then the Christian thing to do is to accept both of them as true.
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Re: New Christian -
04-14-2014, 07:51 PM
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We've quoted you an abundance of Bible passages showing that Jesus is God. Why do you not believe any of them? God wants us to believe the entire Bible, not just a few cherry-picked bits.
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You did not show me any
scriptures where it was written, Jesus is God.
You quoted me an abundance of Bible passages
you claim are talking about Jesus being God.
I showed you a
scripture were it is written
that Jesus is the Son of the Living God.
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