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Default Re: A couple of questions. - 01-26-2010, 12:27 AM

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Let me guess, atheist?
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I shalt not take that kind of accusations, I am not a dirty atheist scum.
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It's not us atheists that say that you can treat your daughter as a prostitute
Boy you changed religion real fast there. So like I already assumed you are an atheist. How is that working out for you? Happy your life is useless since there will be nothing left after you die?


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Default Re: A couple of questions. - 01-26-2010, 12:35 AM

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Boy you changed religion real fast there. So like I already assumed you are an atheist. How is that working out for you? Happy your life is useless since there will be nothing left after you die?
I am an Atheist. I just made this thread to see your reactions. It was about as bad as I thought.

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My neighbor works at the convenience store and he insists on working on Sundays. Should I stone him, or kill him in any other way?
According to the Exodus 35:2, "For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death."
Unfortunately God ordered us to obey secular laws. But once Sarah Palin implements the Holy Bible as the only rule of law we can indeed start doing that again.
The Bible clearly says "Thou shalt not kill" in one of the ten commandments. But why should we stone and kill people for disobeying? That is very hypocritical, and by the way, hypocrites go to "hell".
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Default Re: A couple of questions. - 01-26-2010, 12:39 AM

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I am an Atheist. I just made this thread to see your reactions. It was about as bad as I thought.
I suspected you to be an atheist. You are as bad as I thought.

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The Bible clearly says "Thou shalt not kill" in one of the ten commandments. But why should we stone and kill people for disobeying?
Because God told us to. So we cannot decide on our own who we want to kill, but when God specifically tells us to kill we will. It's all very consistent and logical.


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Default Re: A couple of questions. - 01-26-2010, 12:39 AM

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It's not us atheists that say that you can treat your daughter as a prostitute, have you ever read the Bible? I have not (I have), but I have read a passage from my own Bible from when I was a Christian Scum and in Exodus 21:7 it says "If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as menservants do".
Okay, so if I understand correctly from your own words, you are in fact an atheist... and you pretended to be Christian. That is rather distracting from the question at hand. Now that we have that out of the way, let's see if we can answer your question. Here's my take on it.

Many false Christians will tell you "ah, but Exodus is in the Old Testament, disregard it". You are right that True Christians (on this forum) do accept both the Old and New Testament: both are in the Bible and both are dictated by God, thus both should be followed.

As one of the Brothers already pointed out: the Bible is very clear that secular should be followed. Thus, we are barred from selling our daughters as there are various secular laws outlawing this.

It may also be that certain actions were once moral but outlawed in the Bible in subsequent parts. For example, in Genesis, Lot was raped by his own daughters for his own good (to preserve his seed). That was kind of fair, since he offered his own daughters to be raped by an angry mob of homersexuals.

In the subsequent Levicitus, however, God outlawed various types of rape. So, your daughter would not be allowed to rape you, for example. Although I'm not sure if this is also the case if your wife had just been turned into a pillar of salt. The Pastors should be able to help you on that one...


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Default Re: A couple of questions. - 01-26-2010, 12:45 AM

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So we cannot decide on our own who we want to kill,
You do it anyway, because you never hear god's voice. Am I right?
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Default Re: A couple of questions. - 01-26-2010, 12:48 AM

Can we stick to one question please?

It's hard to keep up...


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Default Re: A couple of questions. - 01-26-2010, 12:53 AM

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You do it anyway, because you never hear god's voice. Am I right?
I do what the Holy Bible says I should do. Nothing more, nothing less.


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Default Re: A couple of questions. - 01-26-2010, 12:55 AM

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Okay, so if I understand correctly from your own words, you are in fact an atheist... and you pretended to be Christian. That is rather distracting from the question at hand. Now that we have that out of the way, let's see if we can answer your question. Here's my take on it.

Many false Christians will tell you "ah, but Exodus is in the Old Testament, disregard it". You are right that True Christians (on this forum) do accept both the Old and New Testament: both are in the Bible and both are dictated by God, thus both should be followed.

As one of the Brothers already pointed out: the Bible is very clear that secular should be followed. Thus, we are barred from selling our daughters as there are various secular laws outlawing this.

It may also be that certain actions were once moral but outlawed in the Bible in subsequent parts. For example, in Genesis, Lot was raped by his own daughters for his own good (to preserve his seed). That was kind of fair, since he offered his own daughters to be raped by an angry mob of homersexuals.

In the subsequent Levicitus, however, God outlawed various types of rape. So, your daughter would not be allowed to rape you, for example. Although I'm not sure if this is also the case if your wife had just been turned into a pillar of salt. The Pastors should be able to help you on that one...
Where is the question?

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I do what the Holy Bible says I should do. Nothing more, nothing less.
Well, the bible is written by mortal men, so I would say that it ain't a reliable source.
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Well, the bible is written by mortal men, so I would say that it ain't a reliable source.
Those mortal men where possessed by the Holy Ghost so what is in the Holy Bible is the word of God.


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Default Re: A couple of questions. - 01-26-2010, 01:04 AM

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Where is the question?
There is no question, but an answer.

Would you like me to ask you a question?


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Default Re: A couple of questions. - 01-26-2010, 01:06 AM

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Those mortal men where possessed by the Holy Ghost so what is in the Holy Bible is the word of God.
That's just hilarious, Holy ghost? I laugh my ass off at your response.

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That's just hilarious, Holy ghost? I laugh my ass off at your response.
You seem to have never even opened a Bible. Perhaps this article in layman's terms will be helpful to you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Spirit


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That's just hilarious, Holy ghost? I laugh my ass off at your response.
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Go ahead and ask that question.
You want me to ask your question? I don't get it? Why can't you ask your own question?


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Default Re: A couple of questions. - 01-26-2010, 01:17 AM

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You said, and I quote, "let's see if we can answer your question." Go ahead and ask that question.
Sorry,my mistake, I thought you wrote "let's see if you can answer our question."

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It is scientifically proven that laughter is healthy for your body. Guess what? A Christian just had a positive health influence on you!
I meant it in a mockery manner.

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You want me to ask your question? I don't get it? Why can't you ask your own question?
What? Your response make no sense.
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I meant it in a mockery manner.
That reflects rather poorly on you then, doesn't it. So far, you've lied about your religious credentials and you've mocked us. If you're trying to make a case for atheist morals, you're not using the best possible angle...

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What? Your response make no sense.
You told me that you want me to ask you a question. I can ask you a question:

Have you tried surrendering to the True God of True Christianity?


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Default Re: A couple of questions. - 01-26-2010, 11:16 AM

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If you're trying to make a case for atheist morals, you're not using the best possible angle...
So you say that all atheists are the same? Well then, you Christians are a Jew hating bunch of people who want to exterminate them, because Hitler was a Christian.

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You told me that you want me to ask you a question. I can ask you a question:

Have you tried surrendering to the True God of True Christianity?
I surrended (maybe the wrong spelling or grammar, as you can see I'm Danish) to your so-called "True God", I got baptized when I was 14 years old just so I could confirm myself, or whatever you call that. It was the biggest mistake of my life. My brother isn't baptized, and I envy him.
I found the "true meaning" (in citation marks because no one has proven by 100% what the true meaning is) by my brother who read our "bible" "The God Delusion" and convinced me into becoming the non-believer I am today.

I have noticed that you say that Atheists is god hating, monkey worshiping people.

No, we cannot hate something that does not exist, some of us just hate religious people. We are not worshiping monkeys either, that is something a cult or a religion would do, we just believe (from strong scientific evidence) that man evolved from apes.
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So you say that all atheists are the same? Well then, you Christians are a Jew hating bunch of people who want to exterminate them, because Hitler was a Christian.
Let's turn it around: do you think ethical atheists would want to be represented by you and your argumentation style?

Also, Hitler was not a True Christian by any means: he was either an atheist or a catholic. Either way, not Christian. You might like to know he was very fond of evolution theory and tried to apply that to the germanic race.

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It was the biggest mistake of my life.
Why? What did you lose? If it didn't do anything, then it's hardly a terrible mistake, right?

Was your baptizer a True Christian? Did he use the KJV 1611 Bible? It's like saying you hate hamburgers because you got food poisoning from one once in a McDonald's.

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we just believe (from strong scientific evidence) that man evolved from apes.
No, you got that wrong -- evolution theory states that humans and apes share a common ancestor, not that humans evolved from apes.


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Matthew 7:22
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

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Default Re: A couple of questions. - 01-26-2010, 11:27 AM

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That's just hilarious, Holy ghost? I laugh my ass off at your response.
You just damned yourself to Hell with no possibility of redemption. Jesus will forgive all sins...except blasphemy of the Holy Ghost.

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Mark 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:


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Default Re: A couple of questions. - 01-26-2010, 11:34 AM

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Let's turn it around: do you think ethical atheists would want to be represented by you and your argumentation style?
I turned your argument around, just so you can see how it fells to be accused by something like that.

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Also, Hitler was not a True Christian by any means: he was either an atheist or a catholic. Either way, not Christian. You might like to know he was very fond of evolution theory and tried to apply that to the germanic race.
Hitler was a born roman-catholic and he preserved a Christian faith through his life, according to Wikipedia that is.

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Why? What did you lose? If it didn't do anything, then it's hardly a terrible mistake, right?
I did not lose anything, it's more of a symbolic mistake. I am a proud Atheist, but I am baptized and confirmed. I don't like that.

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Was your baptizer a True Christian? Did he use the KJV 1611 Bible? It's like saying you hate hamburgers because you got food poisoning from one once in a McDonald's.
My baptizer was a protestant priest. and I do not think he used your ancient bible. I don't even know what's so special about your bible.


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No, you got that wrong -- evolution theory states that humans and apes share a common ancestor, not that humans evolved from apes.
Indeed we share common ancestors, and these ancestors were a species of ape, but I can use the word primate instead if you want. Because that is what we all are, primates.
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Hitler was a born roman-catholic and he preserved a Christian faith through his life, according to Wikipedia that is.
You do realize that we do not consider catlicks to be Christians, right? You might have noticed that they have pedophilia scandals in just about every country they're in. To say that catlicks are Christians is an insult to Christians. They will go to Hell, along with their cross-dressing pope. Not surprisingly, the current pope was member of the Hitler-jugend.

The puzzle pieces fit perfectly... catholicism = pro-pedophilia and pro-nazi.

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I am a proud Atheist, ...
And you you started out pretending to be a Christian. How do you combine the two?

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My baptizer was a protestant priest. and I do not think he used your ancient bible. I don't even know what's so special about your bible.
The KJV 1611 Bible is the only correct Word of God. All other Bibles are bastardized versions. So in a way you were not baptized because it wasn't done by someone who will go to Heaven. You might notice on LBC that our biggest peeve are false Christians who claim they are Saved, but aren't.

You might also have noticed that you can't have an argument with most so-called Christians because they'll just pick and choose the parts of the Bible that are convenient to them. Not so here. That's what makes this place very different.


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Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

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