[Felicity]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

@Tukasait it makes me sad you do not love Jesus. If you would love Jesus you could go to Heaven with us! #Psalm 9:17

[True Disciple]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

ok first I would like to start by saying I am not athiest, I am agnostic (how ever that is spelt),

"Agnostic" is spelled correctly here, "atheist" is not. Like many words are not, in fact. As a heathen, you undoubtedly use Firefox, and you can find an American dictionary here.

I do not believe as I see no evidence that cannot be explained more logically that there is some sort of higher being or god.

John 20:29:
Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

secondly, I'm not here to ahve a go at christianity, i respect religion and those who practice it aslong as they do not force their beliefs onto other people, i follow this philosophy with all people.

Then why are you trying to force your science worship upon us? Rather hypocritical then, to disrespect other people for pushing their beliefs.

third, guys, seriously, i like the idea of your authentication thing, with the missing word from some random part of the bible, but i got past it using google

Amazing! Why has no one thought of that before!?

the reason we believe this at the moment is because we have evidence supporting it, in the forms of chemistry, atmoic physics, quantem mechanics etc, and they all exist because the theory's are strong and make sense, they produce quantative predictions, things we can count and such.

Apparently, you've missed my point about the Law of Conservation of Mass. In fact, I said in my essay that Satan disproved this theory again when he came up with quantum physics. Of course, secular science never tries to actually throw either the Law of Conservation of Mass or quantum physics out, despite the fact that the latter contradicts the former.

whats your evidence that you use to sink 300 years worth of research? a book that was supposibly written a few thousand years ago

The Bible was written in 1611, but was the result of thousands of years of documenting what God told to document. As you can see, secular science is the result of only a few hundred years of research. This is another point that favors the Bible over secular science.

secondly, seriously, fly me a plane to one of the earths corners and push me off if you can prove that its flat,

I'm afraid I cannot do that:

Exodus 20:13:
Thou shalt not kill.

how would you explain the way the satelite that allows you to read this and dismiss it to work if it did not ORBIT the earth, then north pole and south pole, obviously if the earth was flat their strengths would be weaker at the edges and such, are they?

They do not orbit the earth. That idea is a hoax, perpetrated by NASA. They move in circles, but in the same plane as the Earth, on a constant height.

noooope, whats your proof against it? a few quotes from a 5 thousand year old book, that against hundreds of peoples dedicated research over 600 years which has constantly been updated, i dont think so

Which constantly changes, and always is disagreed on, you mean.

And the Bible is written through men, but by God:

2 Peter 1:20-21:
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Do you really think that those "scientists," who always say contradictory thinks and never agree on something, know it better than the Holy Ghost? You are a funny guy!

I'd love to see that because within 2 weeks you would have no mroe skin, your brain would have fried and you would be nothing, we can prove this

(though personally i know jack all about genetics),

Ah, okay, now I understand!

your proof against it? a book, our proof for it? the amount of healing this research has done (and before you say its the work of god, think of the medical care that has been provided to sinners like myself? im still here and i have so many years ahead of me

Of course, we all know witchcraft can heal people. Why should "medical science" be any different?

The best way, however, is to pray:

Mark 5:34:
And he said unto her, Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace, and be whole of thy plague.

linguistics, seriously is that science? i didnt know, well since im getting tired go translate this

to lazy to write mah japanese, another day

I do not understand what you are trying to say here.

radiometric dating? i reckon its pretty sweet, and i spent a whole day at government institutions learning about this,

Wow! So you're an expert on this!

the general way to do it is to analyse (using a mass spectromitor)

I thought I already disproved this. Mass spectrometers sometimes fail, in which case scientists genuine their results, but other times do not fail, because Satan mingles with the stuff. Again, the idea of radiometric dating is dependent on the existence of atoms. Have you ever seen atoms? No one has. Then why do you believe in atoms, and not in God? For God, at least, we have accounts of people who saw Him.

ive seen it in action and it is pretty accurate, so radiometric dating has working evidence and examples to support it, your book has nothing but text

You've seen it work? You mean you've seen some lines on a screen, which were then interpreted as isotopic abundances? And you believed all the silly things those science worshippers told you about them? You are a gullible person.

In addition, even if the method worked like the scientists claim, then there still is the changing decay rates over time, which would be largely influenced by the Great Flood.

Finally, recently deposited volcanic material was dated anywhere between 0.35 million and 2.8 million years, using the "K-Ar" method. That, of course, is definite proof that radiometric dating is a tool of the devil.

phycietry? not my field, but what you jsut said reminds me of another religionish thingo, im leavfing it at that

What is the purpose of this sentence?

im getting exhausted here!

That's why you shouldn't masturbate when you're posting. Firstly, it is an abomination before God, secondly, it will exhaust you, and thirdly, typing with one hand doesn't make your spelling and grammar improve much.

Gravity: we cant really explain gravity at the moment, is it a bend in space/time (imagine a hole in the ground, everything that falls in it is going to go down right? kinda imagine that in 3 dimensions, i know I cant) or maybe its gravitons? I think we have evidence for both theories at the moment, again, not my area but yea, more than a few quotes

The red sentence says it all. Gravitons are just a hopeless idea by lying scientists to cover up the holes in this theory. Of course, they do not exist: Jesus makes matter fall down. Did you follow the link I gave to my essay about gravity?

heliocetristhingamaboby? go research galileo a bit mate,the amount of evidence we have towards this, this is something we have proof of, i wish we were the centre of the universe aswell, believe me, it would be sweet cause when the big crunch comes, we'll be the last ones here , but alas tis not true, theres this great picture about scale on the net somewhere, go search it up!

Is this supposed to be evidence?

(my arguemnents are detereorating with my strength, but bear with me here)

So is your spelling, friend. Why don't you just accept that you can't answer these Truths, and accept Jesus?

Germs? I loooooove your satan explination for this, it kicks ass, but have you guys very been sick? out of all the people on this forum, do you know someone who has had skin cancer? well thats less abvout germs, but a germ has been recoded to fight skin cancer, would ya believe it? all those sinners with skin cancer will be cured by satan himself wearing a different hat!

Of course Satan heals people, if he can use that to draw that people and his family away from Christianity. He is a very ingenious character.

evidence, the fact your alive

What? So because I'm alive, germs exist? Are you saying I'm a germ?

and also the fact that we are all going to be killed by a multi-resistant organism in a few years time, proof against, satan making facfes under a microscope, real mature

The fact we are going to be killed? Since when are you able to look into the future, that you declare this to be a fact? Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

now number one, how I love you so. Darwins theory of evolution via natural selection! you are my hero

Could you please commit your science worship elsewhere? This is a decent, Christian forum, you know!

without you, we would have thumbs,

I do have thumbs, in fact. Does this explain why you make so many spelling mistakes?

we would probebly still be pondscum in some primordial ozze a few billion years ago,

Without Darwin's theory, we would travel billions of years back in time? How is that supposed to make sense?

the majot evidence towards this is the fact we can demonstrate it in certain organisms, pretty cool tests, kiddies, research them. i would write a nother fewq thousand words on this but its near my bed time

Yes, I was wondering that. Do your parents know that you are posting?

but do you have any evidence towards the fact that one does besides a book of observations that seemed logical at the time?

no I'm sorry to say, you dont.

Do you have any proof for your theories, besides science?

No, I'm sorry to say, you don't.

Now please explain to me why the opinion of your religion (secular science) would trump the opinion of mine?

your church was built and stays up because of the laws of science.

No, it doesn't. Our church is held up by God's Care:

Matthew 6:31-32:
Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.

Please believe, its great you ahve some purpos in life, but do not force your illogical theories onto other people WITH OUT ANY EVIDENCE

I have backed everything I said up with Biblical Evidence, boy. Don't lie now.

[Sidoain]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

I do read the bible, but i cant believe some of these bible parts that are already solved by science research. Im not an atheist, i believe in god and the bible, but i also believe in what the human saw before the bible.

Now you will say(HO no!!! you put the humans over god!!!) I didnt said that. I never saw god myself and im a curious man, but i wont go that far. So i give up on looking for god and i keep on looking on humans since i can clearly see anyone of them.

[Nobar King]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

i cant believe some of these bible parts that are already solved by science research.

Name one.

[Tukasa]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

@ True Disciple, your right, I was being hypercritical and was to lazy to use Firefox's spell check, it was late alright

I guess we have different interpretations of the word "evidence, and If I actually cared enough, I would write another long reply, a chat about these issues would be interesting, but i doubt its going to happen

Your right, some parts of science contradict others, special (or is it general) relativity and quantum mechanics for example don't work together... yet

I guess the thing that bugs me the most is you guys are happy to reap the rewards of science, all the little things in your everyday life that make it easier for you, but deny their existence practically and all the thousands of hours of scientific research that actually make them work, now that's hypercritical!

The difference between scientific evidence and Biblical evidence is that biblical evidence is based entirely on interpretation of a 400 year old text, science is based on neutral (though not always I must admit) observational evidence based on so amny different things under different conditions, Its hard for scientists to make a solid theory based on logic and evidence, and you discredit it with biased (due to the fact your "evidence" comes down to interpretation) and sometimes fraudulent evidence (Go look up the old story of how fraudulent evidence was used to discredit the Peppered moth as an example of evolution).

I'm just trying to show another side of the story and give people options

I'm looking forward to another mail Pastor Ezekiel saying I cant do this, that I am speaking "Unsaved Trash speaking nonsense" and saying that the internet is not free, yes this is a privately owned website, but if you don't want us nonbelievers in here, then send it to the dark net, make it a private website, until such a time, I will be here

I'm trying to be civil and tasteful, unlike you: "I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum". I'm guessing by now you will have gotten my reply.

wow not a single spelling mistake! I'm proud

Peace

/tsuk

Quick p.s., whats your beef with anime? and since when is baseball a homosexual sport (said in reference to your Mario baseball thread)? your argument in that thread that football is a heterosexual sport seems a bit lamo, foot ball contains a lot of men touching each other

[Tukasa]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

turns out I cant PM you mate, so my reply will have to stay in my head

and @ Nobar King, I named 10

[True Disciple]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

Your right, some parts of science contradict others, special (or is it general) relativity and quantum mechanics for example don't work together... yet

Yet? I'm aware of the problems in that field, but I think you will never find a theory of quantum gravity, unless, of course, Satan concocts a new lie in his infernal think tanks in Hell. Quantum mechanics is a lie, general relativity is a lie, and gravity is a lie. I can't put it clearer than that.

The difference between scientific evidence and Biblical evidence is that biblical evidence is based entirely on interpretation of a 400 year old text, science is based on neutral (though not always I must admit) observational evidence based on so amny different things under different conditions, Its hard for scientists to make a solid theory based on logic and evidence, and you discredit it with biased (due to the fact your "evidence" comes down to interpretation) and sometimes fraudulent evidence (Go look up the old story of how fraudulent evidence was used to discredit the Peppered moth as an example of evolution).

If secular scientists would care so much about evidence, why isn't the Bible incorporated in their theories? This is clear proof of the religious bias of scientists.

I'm trying to be civil and tasteful, unlike you: "I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum". I'm guessing by now you will have gotten my reply.

Civil and tasteful? You are the one promoting all kinds of occult trash here, friend, not we! The Pastor's prayer is filled with True Christian™ Love, as he realizes that you are possessed by demons, which blind you to the truth:

2 Corinthians 4:3-4:
But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

wow not a single spelling mistake! I'm proud

Don't be, friend! Pride is a sin:

Proverbs 8:13:
The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

turns out I cant PM you mate, so my reply will have to stay in my head

That's very sad. I will pray to Jesus to chase this devilry out of your head again.

[Sidoain]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

You guys abuse the use of giving infraction away. My last post is worst an infraction, but i didnt even try to debate. I just tried to give my own recommendation.

[Tukasa]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

Yet? I'm aware of the problems in that field, but I think you will never find a theory of quantum gravity, unless, of course, Satan concocts a new lie in his infernal think tanks in Hell. Quantum mechanics is a lie, general relativity is a lie, and gravity is a lie. I can't put it clearer than that.

Yes yet, a few hundred years ago we had no idea how volcano's worked, now, we have models to explain them, so in a few hundred years time, some kid like me will say something similar, "A few hundred years ago, they didnt even have a theory of quantum gravity!".

If secular scientists would care so much about evidence, why isn't the Bible incorporated in their theories? This is clear proof of the religious bias of scientists.

While I have no solid proof to say that the devil does not exist, do you have any besides a few hundred year old book? I actually dont want to put it this way, but there is no proof that the contents of that book are true, the phenomenon it explains can all be explained though other means, what makes it more important than perhaps a fiction book written around the same time (I really did not enjoy putting it that way, but its true)

Civil and tasteful? You are the one promoting all kinds of occult trash here, friend, not we! The Pastor's prayer is filled with True Christian™ Love, as he realizes that you are possessed by demons, which blind you to the truth:

Though the use of the word "friend" may be civil in your reply, I do not believe the words "occult trash" are

Don't be, friend! Pride is a sin:

In your beliefs it may be, but not mine, and I'm proud to say I did it again

and I apologize for my double posting before, I didn't look properly

[Emily_smiles]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

Dear True Disciple,
Sorry to bother you If pride is a sin, then is Pastor Ezekiel sinful? In his status he says "Putting the "stud" back in Bible study". I believe that stud is a complimentary term, and in this context it is directed at himself? so is he being prideful?

[Felicity]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

@Tukasa how can you say that EVERYTHING in the Bible is explained in other ways as well? Most scientists admit there are a lot of holes in science, you even mention some yourself, while the Bible covers everything including the creation of everything and the meaning of life!

[Felicity]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

@Emily_smiles if you would have met Pastor Ezekiel you would know it is not pride but the truth! And God demands all of us to tell the truth! #Proverbs 6:16-19

[Emily_smiles]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

thanks for replying felicity!

ps, another post on this site says we women should not be on the internet. What do you think of this?

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?p=510406

[Tukasa]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

@Tukasa how can you say that EVERYTHING in the Bible is explained in other ways as well? Most scientists admit there are a lot of holes in science, you even mention some yourself,

Yes sorry your right, you've caught me out, if you will allow me to rephrase and change my earlier comment.

While I have no solid proof to say that the devil does not exist, do you have any besides a few hundred year old book? I actually don't want to put it this way, but there is no proof that the contents of that book are true, The majority of the phenomenon it explains can be explained though other means such as theory's with predictions that can be tested repeatedly under many different conditions which produce quantitative evidence to reinforce the theory, what makes it more important than perhaps a fiction book written around the same time (I really did not enjoy putting it that way, but its true)

while the Bible covers everything including the creation of everything and the meaning of life!

Does the bible cover why when we inhale O_2 we exhale CO_2? no, does it explain the way the particles in the dust storm I am happily watching interact with each other and obscure my view of the city? no. You claim that it covers everything, and yes, it does offer some theories as to why some of the natural phenomena around us occurs, but it lacks evidence, it just states. The rest of it has come from your interpretation of it, lacking evidence, just based on opinion

and the meaning of life is not a scientific matter, if there is a meaning to life

[Giovanni]

Re: The 10 worstly mistaken fields of secular science!

Ok, Tukasa, I agree with,

Now i personally attend a youth group at a local church, no i do not believe in god. But jesus sounds like a great fellow for he turned water into wine? I mean this guy knew how to party! anyways...

I agree with many teachings and philosophies.
But NO WHERE in the bible have I seen, that you should discriminate your fellow neighbour. Weather it be the man down the street or the man who like you is trying to find their own kind of enlightenment.

Learn to love more than one<3

May your lords be gracious and bless you,
Giovanni

p.s.
Guys that is Racist.