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Re: Is Punk Like Goth -
07-02-2007, 05:48 PM
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He was rebelling against romans wasent he?
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No Jesus was calling on the world to obey God’s laws. Rebel to uphold the law, that’s screwy.
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07-03-2007, 07:49 PM
Yes and no. Punk is like Goth in the sense that, you know, "counter-culture" "being different", ect. But the clothing is a little different, Goth is more...Gothic, and Punk is a little more random. The attitudes are a little different between the two as well, I suppose, I believe Goths are a little 'darker' than your average punk. I don't know what exactly "defines" someone as being either Punk or Goth, it's just sort of a general feeling I suppose, if someone thinks that they are a Punk, not a Goth, or a Goth, not a Punk.
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Emo? sure, I suppose. I've always thought of Emo is "watered down goth", really. But Hippie? nuh uh. Hippies are more colorful, their style, music, and attitude isn't near Gothic.
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07-03-2007, 10:50 PM
Who cares? All of them are going to Hell.
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07-03-2007, 11:57 PM
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Who cares? All of them are going to Hell.
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Well said sister. It was a stupid question from the beginning, and not worth bothering with.
Hellbound scum is hellbound scum. "Nuff said.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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07-04-2007, 12:27 AM
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... I'd say you've got a point there, Spectator Man
1st Timothy 2: 9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
1st Timothy 2: 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works ...
1 Timothy 5: 16 If any man or woman that believeth have widows, let them relieve them, and let not the church be charged; that it may relieve them that are widows indeed ...
Proverbs 31: 26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness ...
Proverbs 31: 27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness ...
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07-04-2007, 11:33 AM
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Please let me know.. do your research!
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I have conducted many years of painstaking research into the punk rock cult, and every discovery I have made has just made me more and more sickened. They are a sickening bunch of work-shy, antisocial freaks who seem to have found a way to exist on a diet consisting solely of cider (or malt liquor in the US), rum and gin. They'll happily drop everything to travel halfway across a country to watch some tone-deaf lunatic strumming a violin in some Godforsaken building that should have been demolished decades ago, and would far rather ram a bolt of metal through their nose, or dye their hair the queerest colour they can think of, than read even a single page of the King James Bible. They are nothing but a rat-infested mob of riff-raff who belong in jail, or possibly a cemetary. Do you want me to go on?
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You are very wrong my friend, i am a punker
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Is that some sort of hip, "groovy" young person's abbreviation of "spunk-gobbler"? Frankly, nothing you secularists do can surprise me any more.
What's a strong in anarchy? Do you mean that you want to remove all forms of law and order so that you can mercilessly tyrannise those weaker than you? Fortunately, Jesus will see to it that your mad Bakuninist plots never come to fruition, but if they did, you'd probably be eaten alive by savage negroes within about 15 minutes.
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and glendora i do wear black but not constantly i ussualy wear a grey vest (with patches)
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Friend, if you accept Jesus, He will guide your life until the point where you can afford to buy some new clothes, ones that don't have holes in. Doesn't that sound exciting?
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im a part of nothing, and im actually rooting for ron paul
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What are your views on private property? What do you think about immigration control, trade unions, restrictions on the behaviour of corporations, gay marriage, and the legalisation of drugs?
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And anarchism was before the industrial revolution.
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Yes, because the split between the followers of Marx and Proudhon in the First International took place long before the Industrial Revolution, I'm sure.
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If you mean Adam and Eve, I can see where you're coming from, but not even Eve was dumb enough to consider herself an anarchist. And she was a woman.
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Goth is more....Hippy/emo/thrasher
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What on earth are you jibber-jabbering about now? Goths are sinful and despicable in many ways, but I've not noticed them dressing in bright, gaudy colours or advocating "flower power" and "free love". And thrashing emos is the sort of behaviour you'd expect from decent Christian folk, not hellbound goths.
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What, so Joe Hill and Martin Luther King were punks now? I must say, while the uppity red-led negro had many faults, I've never heard about him urinating in the streets or ramming a safety pin through his face. I suppose you're going to try and claim Gandhi as the forefather of Oi! next.
O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.
God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.
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Re: Is Punk Like Goth -
07-06-2007, 05:40 AM
You need to get your facts straight. Wicca, satan worship, goth, and punk are all four different categories.
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07-06-2007, 05:43 AM
I would like to say a few things about you to. Is it too much for you bible thumpers to just respect everyone for who they are? You don't have to like us, but is it too much to ask to respect us?
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Re: Is Punk Like Goth -
07-06-2007, 06:15 AM
Hey there Ixi! Welcome back.
And no, they will never respect us, sadly.
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07-06-2007, 06:36 AM
Egh, sorry I was gone for such a long time...
Can't you just suck up the fact that we arn't going to Hell anytime soon, no matter how much you rant and rave?
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07-06-2007, 12:53 PM
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You need to get your facts straight. Wicca, satan worship, goth, and punk are all four different categories.
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I defy you to prove that. They are all satan worshipers, and there simply is no difference.
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I would like to say a few things about you to. Is it too much for you bible thumpers to just respect everyone for who they are? You don't have to like us, but is it too much to ask to respect us?
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I would like to say a few things about you to(o). God tells us to rebuke those who mock Him and reject His offer of everlasting life in Heaven. Nowhere in the Holy Bible does it say that we should "respect" unsaved scum like you. Nor witches, nor homers, nor emos, nor mudslimes, nor all the other assorted filth that plagues our Godly nation. In fact, it is only due to secular law that we are restrained from killing you all outright, which would please God so much.
Deuteronomy 13:6-10
If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die.
Does this answer your question?
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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07-06-2007, 05:30 PM
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I would like to say a few things about you to(o). God tells us to rebuke those who mock Him and reject His offer of everlasting life in Heaven. Nowhere in the Holy Bible does it say that we should "respect" unsaved scum like you. Nor witches, nor homers, nor emos, nor mudslimes, nor all the other assorted filth that plagues our Godly nation. In fact, it is only due to secular law that we are restrained from killing you all outright, which would please God so much.
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I never found the words emo, mudslime, or homer anywhere in the Bible. And you say that your God is all powerful and all loving, so why would he stoop to letting you wipe us out just because we are different? Some God.
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07-07-2007, 01:15 AM
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I never found the words emo, mudslime, or homer anywhere in the Bible. And you say that your God is all powerful and all loving, so why would he stoop to letting you wipe us out just because we are different? Some God.
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When did we say that God is "all loving?" There are plenty of behaviours and people that God hates. Where on earth do you come up with nonsense like that?
Liars, witches, goths, homos, punks, harlots and worshipers of false Gods are just a few of the unsaved scum on the long list of those that God reviles.
Jesus DID NOT die for everyone
He died for those that BELIEVE.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH IN HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16
Everyone doesn't believe in Jesus, thus they will perish.
That includes you, Icksy. Better repent now.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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07-07-2007, 02:39 AM
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Liars, witches, goths, homos, punks, harlots and worshipers of false Gods are just a few of the unsaved scum on the long list of those that God reviles.
Jesus DID NOT die for everyone
He died for those that BELIEVE.
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Did God tell you who he reviles? I doubt they talk about goths in the bible. Did God ascend from the clouds with a list of so called "cults" he despises and told you to treat them like trash? I don't think so.
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Re: Is Punk Like Goth -
07-07-2007, 12:57 PM
Actually, they group goths with those people in the bible mentioned as wearing 'strange attire'. Apparently their 'god' would like everyone to wear uniforms...or sackcloth...or both.
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07-07-2007, 01:12 PM
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Did God tell you who he reviles? I doubt they talk about goths in the bible. Did God ascend from the clouds with a list of so called "cults" he despises and told you to treat them like trash? I don't think so.
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Exodus 22:18
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
And here's 19-20 for good measure:
19 Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death.
20 He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed.
God even tells us HOW to put them to death:
Leviticus 20:27
A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.
If you make God angry enough, he will kill you and your family with his own sword. --Exodus 22:24 "And my wrath shall wax hot, and I will kill you with the sword; and your wives shall be widows, and your children fatherless."
Proverbs 6
[16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
[17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
[18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
[19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
Matthew 12:31-32
Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn't care for his preaching.
Matthew 11:20 Then began he to upbraid the cities wherein most of his mighty works were done, because they repented not:
11:21 Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.
11:22 But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you.
11:23 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.
11:24 But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee.
All liars, as well as those who are fearful or unbelieving, will be cast into "the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone." Revelations 21:8
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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07-07-2007, 01:15 PM
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Exodus 22:18
All liars, as well as those who are fearful or unbelieving, will be cast into "the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone." Revelations 21:8
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Sounds toasty. I'll bring marshmallows.
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07-08-2007, 06:42 AM
Howdy im back .
Anyway, my whole thing on this is. People are diffrent, even though you might place them in the same place, "Satan Worshipers" in your case.
I will say once...again, that not only do i not worship some sun burnt horned thing, but that i dont belong to a cult either.
Punk
Goth
Emo
Hippie
Christian
etc.
They are all groups of people.
And just because i believe in somthing gives you no right to say im in a "cult"
in that case, you are to.
Because you dress how u think is apropriate, you think that what you believe in is right.
So whats so diffrent, eh?
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07-09-2007, 03:01 AM
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Sounds toasty. I'll bring marshmallows.
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I second that, see ya in hell!
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07-09-2007, 04:10 AM
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I second that, see ya in hell!
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I don't think you're gonna like it, Icksy. Hell is forever.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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