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04-18-2010, 02:33 AM
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I just realized that after I had sent it that you were talking about that Herod.
However, an honest and minor slip doesn't dispel the entirety of my credibility.
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I can see how that would be confusing when I said both Pilate and Herod wanted to release Jesus.
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04-18-2010, 02:34 AM
What a bunch of filthy mouths on those Joos . Have they no shame to stand there and brag that the Killed our Lord and Savior, Jesus. I am weeping at this moment thinking of the betrayal. Sweet Jesus I am not worthy of the Gift of salvation, I pray Jesus give me strength.
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04-18-2010, 02:37 AM
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@Pastor Ezekiel - "I've been lying? Really, where have I been lying? Perhaps you can go back and refute the information i've provided to you.
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You lied when you accused our Savior of being a DAMNED HOOK-NOSED JOO!
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us. -
04-18-2010, 02:39 AM
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I can see how that would be confusing when I said both Pilate and Herod wanted to release Jesus.
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I wonder if the heeb still thinks we are stupid fundamentalists..
Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.
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04-18-2010, 02:41 AM
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I can see how that would be confusing when I said both Pilate and Herod wanted to release Jesus.
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@ Billy Bob Black I realized that error as soon as I sent the post (accidentally at that), and I couldn't change it, or repost anything in time. Its taking me 5 minutes to post anything because Pastor Ezekiel has a problem with me. Thus its not entirely my fault that I couldn't revise that problem. Like I said, I apologize.
@Pastor Ezekiel -
What is with all of the anti-semitism here? Cherry picking scripture is supposed to impress me? At any rate, yes the Jews (some) were responsible in wanting him to be killed. His people were the ones who sold him out. But the Gentiles also wanted him dead, so were equally responsible.
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04-18-2010, 02:41 AM
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Thats interesting too don't you think? Since the leader of the Jews at the time was obviously Messianic Jew.....kind of goes to show that there were many Jews who believed in Yeshua during the time period.
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Yeah Herod was so Messianic he tried to kill Jesus as a baby.
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04-18-2010, 02:44 AM
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@ Billy Bob Black I realized that error as soon as I sent the post (accidentally at that), and I couldn't change it, or repost anything in time. Its taking me 5 minutes to post anything because Pastor Ezekiel has a problem with me. Thus its not entirely my fault that I couldn't revise that problem. Like I said, I apologize.
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Maybe 10 minutes between posts is too short of a period. Perhaps you need more time to properly proofread your posts before submitting.
Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.
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04-18-2010, 02:51 AM
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Yeah Herod was so Messianic he tried to kill Jesus as a baby.
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Is this really the way you justify your exclusion of material? By this logic, every time you make a mistake or a slip of any kind, you must deny the totality of all of your reasoning. This is unwarranted skepticism. Why not try to refute the arguments I've made that have not been mistakenly posted? Go ahead and post it here for all to see. The posting privileges here are horrendous.
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Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us. -
04-18-2010, 02:53 AM
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Is this really the way you justify your exclusion of material? By this logic, every time you make a mistake or a slip of any kind, you must deny the totality of all of your reasoning. This is unwarranted skepticism. Why not try to refute the arguments I've made that have not been mistakenly posted? Go ahead and post it here for all to see. The posting privileges here are horrendous.
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You really are a pushy joo.
Posting here is a privilege, not a right.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us. -
04-18-2010, 02:59 AM
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@Pastor Ezekiel -
What is with all of the anti-semitism here? Cherry picking scripture is supposed to impress me? At any rate, yes the Jews (some) were responsible in wanting him to be killed. His people were the ones who sold him out. But the Gentiles also wanted him dead, so were equally responsible.
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How many times are you going to change your story, first it was not the joos it was the Romans then it was both now its a different story. Face it you Joos killed Jesus end of story!
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Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us. -
04-18-2010, 03:08 AM
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How many times are you going to change your story, first it was not the joos it was the Romans then it was both now its a different story. Face it you Joos killed Jesus end of story!
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Either/or fallacy. I've mentioned that both were responsible.
@ Pastor Ezekiel - I said privilege did I not? Its more of a totalitarianistic system than it is a right of any kind to be here in the first place.
@Billy Bob - in case you don't realize this, tho I'm pretty sure you do,
Herod the Great who was the king of Israel who tried to kill Jesus as a baby died. in 4 B.C. according to Josephus. Luke 23 talks about Herod Antipas, the son of Herod the Great, who was the 1st century ruler of Galilee and Perea.
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04-18-2010, 03:28 AM
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That is correct. We are on the same page here, except dietary laws and the keeping of Saturday (oops I shouldn't use that word as it has pagan roots!) as the Sabbath are specifically abolished.
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Where? Please don't use the tired examples of Mark 7, the Phariseeic handwashing ceremony that was condemned by Yeshua or Acts 10:9-29 which talks about Peter's vision of the unclean animals. That was only ever directed to going out to save the Gentiles, not eating pork.
Yes, our calendar is lunar anyways. And we number our days 1,2,3,4,5,6,7. We don't name them after Pagan gods.
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But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
Matthew 16:27
27For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
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Because we will. The deeds we must follow are according to the Torah.
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Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us. -
04-18-2010, 03:28 AM
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Either/or fallacy. I've mentioned that both were responsible.
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Face it the Joos ratted out Jesus, they bribed Judas with some cold hard cash( some thing the Joos are still good at)
They set up Jesus with the kiss of death( Something the Dagos in Rome still do Cathliks and the mafia are one in the same). The Joos set up some smoke and mirror fake trial. The head Roman finds Jesus not guilty, but no the Joos do not want to hear that, they demand that He die.
Pontius Pilate washes his hands of the whole thing and does what the Rabbi's ask. Now you claim it wasn't the Joos who killed Jesus it was the Romans. YOU BET
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Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us. -
04-18-2010, 03:44 AM
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Face it the Joos ratted out Jesus, they bribed Judas with some cold hard cash( some thing the Joos are still good at)
They set up Jesus with the kiss of death( Something the Dagos in Rome still do Cathliks and the mafia are one in the same). The Joos set up some smoke and mirror genuine trial. The head Roman finds Jesus not guilty, but no the Joos do not want to hear that, they demand that He die.
Pontius Pilate washes his hands of the whole thing and does what the Rabbi's ask. Now you claim it wasn't the Joos who killed Jesus it was the Romans. YOU BET
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The Levites and rulers of the synagogue (not the Messianics) turned him in, so they were responsible for killing Yeshua. The Romans irresponsibly killed an innocent man. Both Jews and Romans were at fault! A waffle on the part of Pontius Pilate leaves the Romans no less at fault.
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Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us. -
04-18-2010, 03:48 AM
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The Levites and rulers of the synagogue (not the Messianics) turned him in, so they were responsible for killing Yeshua. The Romans irresponsibly killed an innocent man. Both Jews and Romans were at fault! A waffle on the part of Pontius Pilate leaves the Romans no less at fault.
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Are you sill here running your thick lips? I thought you people had to rest on Saturdays?
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: A Bible "expert" has come to teach us. -
04-18-2010, 09:34 AM
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Besides this, animal sacrifices were refused by God after Yeshua's resurrection and the temple was destroyed 40 years after Yeshua's ministry had ended on Earth. If you read Leviticus 17, it states that the only place that sacrifices can be made was in the temple, or you are guilty of bloodshed. According to the true way of following Orthodox Judaism today without a Savior, they are essentially in trouble because they have no means to be forgiven of sin. With Yeshua we are permanently set free from our sins as we long as we repent and follow him to the best of our abilities with an earnest and true heart.
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It doesn't say temple in Leviticus 17, it says tabernacle:
Leviticus 17:4 And bringeth it not unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, to offer an offering unto the LORD before the tabernacle of the LORD; blood shall be imputed unto that man; he hath shed blood; and that man shall be cut off from among his people: Nothing stops you Jews from raising a tent and calling it at tabernacle. That's just an excuse because you're lazy.
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ha, gotcha, no thanks . I was just wondering why you chose 180 seconds.
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Because if your posts aren't worth waiting 180 seconds for, then they shouldn't have been posted in the first place.
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The blood of Yeshua is what saved us from sin.
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As True Christians™ we are saved by the sweet blood of Jesus, but for you Jews the blood has become a terrible curse:
Matthew 27:25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.
1st Corinthians 15:16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
1st Corinthians 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
1st Corinthians 15:18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
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04-18-2010, 10:22 AM
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I'm not proving that Jews were not responsible. I'm stating that there would have been somewhat of an interest (maybe not from Pontius Pilate) from the Romans to crucify him for treason.
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Billy Bob Black is right. Try reading Josephus. The Jews were constantly revolting (NPI) because they didn't want the Roman insignia in their temple. They didn't even want "Pagan" coinage stamped with "graven images" to enter their temple. That's why the money changers were sitting in the temple court to exchange the unclean Gentile coins with clean, kosher, Tyrian, shiny shekels.
The Romans must have loved Jesus for rebuking the money changers, and for saying " Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's" or (through his mouthpiece St. Paul) " Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God").
Why do you think Pilate went to such great lengths arguing with the bloodthirsty Jews?
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Herod? Wow....amazing. You're just being silly now because you're out of arguments right? Herod was the one who was king when Jesus was born and tried to kill the 1 year old babies. Actually thats how we have determined around what year Jesus was born thanks to another Messianic Jew, Josephus. He was born in roughly 6 to 8 B.C.
The bloodthirsty Jews? You recall this was in Rome right?
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Groan: - Herod Antipas was the son of Herod the Great.
- How could Christ have been born 6 to 8 years Before Christ?
- The crucifixion took place in Jerusalem.
1st Corinthians 15:16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
1st Corinthians 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
1st Corinthians 15:18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
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