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  • Brother Guy Bayard
    Anvil of the Antipodes
    True Christian™
    • Jul 2007
    • 1271

    #1

    Creationism dismissed as 'paganism' by Vatican!

    Creationism dismissed as 'a kind of paganism' by Vatican's astronomer

    http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=674042006

    IAN JOHNSTON
    BELIEVING that God created the universe in six days is a form of superstitious paganism, the Vatican astronomer Guy Consolmagno claimed yesterday.
    Brother Consolmagno, who works in a Vatican observatory in Arizona and as curator of the Vatican meteorite collection in Italy, said a "destructive myth" had developed in modern society that religion and science were competing ideologies.
    He described creationism, whose supporters want it taught in schools alongside evolution, as a "kind of paganism" because it harked back to the days of "nature gods" who were responsible for natural events.
    Brother Consolmagno argued that the Christian God was a supernatural one, a belief that had led the clergy in the past to become involved in science to seek natural reasons for phenomena such as thunder and lightning, which had been previously attributed to vengeful gods. "Knowledge is dangerous, but so is ignorance. That's why science and religion need to talk to each other," he said.
    "Religion needs science to keep it away from superstition and keep it close to reality, to protect it from creationism, which at the end of the day is a kind of paganism - it's turning God into a nature god. And science needs religion in order to have a conscience, to know that, just because something is possible, it may not be a good thing to do."
    Brother Consolmagno, who was due to give a speech at the Glasgow Science Centre last night, entitled "Why the Pope has an Astronomer", said the idea of papal infallibility had been a "PR disaster". What it actually meant was that, on matters of faith, followers should accept "somebody has got to be the boss, the final authority".
    "It's not like he has a magic power, that God whispers the truth in his ear," he said.
    The devil, whose business is to pervert the truth, mimics the exact circumstance of the Divine Sacraments. He baptises his believers and promises forgiveness of sins...he celebrates the oblation of bread, and brings in the symbol of the resurrection. Let us therefore acknowledge the craftiness of the devil, who copied certain things of those that be divine."
    Tertullian (155-222 AD) from The Prescription Against Heretics' Ch XL
  • Pastor Ezekiel
    Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
     
    • Sep 2006
    • 78553

    #2
    Re: Creationism dismissed as 'a kind of paganism' by Vatican's as

    The mere fact that the roman pope employs astrologers speaks volumes to his depraved indifference to God's perfect message.

    Lev.19:26
    Neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times.

    Dt.18:10-12
    There shall not be found among you any ... that useth divination, or an observer of times.... For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD.

    Is.47:13-14
    Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee. Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it.

    Jer.10:2
    Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
    Who Will Jesus Damn?

    Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

    Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

    Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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    • Pastor Al E Pistle
      Christ's Cōnsiliārius
       
      • Sep 2006
      • 9323

      #3
      Re: Creationism dismissed as 'a kind of paganism' by Vatican's as

      Yes, the Vatican has admitted numerous times that their entire belief system is bollocks, that EVILUTION exists, that the Pope isn't infallible, that the entire Catholic faith is just one huge practical joke gone wrong and their "god" is really DAGON, the fish-head.

      But still, we have people in here like that moron Fr. Fishhead who insists that all priests are not necessarily homers just because the catlick church REQUIRES THEM TO BE by forbidding the normal and natural relations between men and women that GOD invented, and that since they can only bugger boys, 99% of priests join FOR JUST THAT ONE REASON! Getting rid of all catlicks would eliminate pedophelia in the Christian world.

      During the past forty years, the Baptist church has sent several delegations to Rome to snuff negotiate Christianity with the pope. Twice we got lucky, but now it's too late. SATAN HIMSELF has taken over the Roman Catlick Church and that can only mean one thing: JESUS IS ON THE WAY BACK!
      Emeritus Professor of the Christ Jesus Chair of Theology at Landover Baptist University.
      "God loves you. Let us arrange for you to meet Him".
      Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth.--Psalms 58:6


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      • RisenfromHell
        Confirmed Enemy of God
        BANNED from Landover -- Aeternal Damnation Assured
        • Feb 2008
        • 4

        #4
        Re: Creationism dismissed as 'a kind of paganism' by Vatican's as

        Originally posted by Pastor Al E Pistle View Post
        SATAN HIMSELF has taken over the Roman Catlick Church and that can only mean one thing: JESUS IS ON THE WAY BACK!
        Are there any other signs that Jesus is on his way back soon?

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        • Brother J.H.
          True Christian™
          True Christian™
          • Feb 2008
          • 291

          #5
          Re: Creationism dismissed as 'paganism' by Vatican!

          What do you expect from a buncha Mary Worshipping Cathylicks? These stupid kid fuckers take direct orders from Satan himself
          http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/

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          • Enigmatic Harpo Marx
            Resident ex-satanist
            True Christian™
            • Nov 2007
            • 488

            #6
            Re: Creationism dismissed as 'paganism' by Vatican!

            Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators
            Oh that's great! I'm an astronomy major. Guess that explains a little bit

            At least the Catholics know how to keep up with the times. I mean how is Satan supposed to lead us astray if nobody is looking for reasons to doubt God?
            Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of Death, I will fear no evil...

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            • Robbie
              Forum Member
              Forum Member
              • Apr 2008
              • 30

              #7
              Re: Creationism dismissed as 'paganism' by Vatican!

              Well I agree entirely with Sister Phelps; what more can we expect from Godless heathens such as the Catholics? I heard that Richard Dawkins is in line to become the next pope.
              Anyone with any faith can point to Genesis and show that these Catholics are serpent-tongued devils.
              Always remember His Word:

              "And the LORD said unto him, What is that in thine hand? And he said, A rod."

              Exodus 4:2.

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              • Herr_Doktor Phd.
                True Christian™
                True Christian™
                • Mar 2008
                • 493

                #8
                Re: Creationism dismissed as 'paganism' by Vatican!

                ROFL, the Vatican condemning something on the grounds of paganism. That really cracks me up.
                sigpic

                Exodus 22:18
                says, "Suffer not a witch to live." Deuteronomy 18:10 says, "There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch."

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                • Ahimaaz Smith
                  True Christian™
                  True Christian™
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 2549

                  #9
                  Re: Creationism dismissed as 'paganism' by Vatican!

                  Originally posted by RisenfromHell View Post
                  Are there any other signs that Jesus is on his way back soon?
                  Yes. Many, many other signs.

                  Originally posted by Robbie View Post
                  I heard that Richard Dawkins is in line to become the next pope.... Anyone with any faith can point to Genesis and show that these Catholics are serpent-tongued devils.
                  I doubt they'd pick Dawkins. He's already doing fine service for Satan writing his ridiculous books, so why would the Devil transfer him to another division? But, Robbie, I like the way you think, because certainly one doesn't need to read very far into the Bible to realize that Catholics are liars.

                  Pour out thy fury upon the heathen that know thee not, and upon the families that call not on thy name.... Jeremiah 10:25

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                  • Khorib
                    Unsaved trash
                    Under Investigation
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 12

                    #10
                    Re: Creationism dismissed as 'a kind of paganism' by Vatican's as

                    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                    The mere fact that the roman pope employs astrologers speaks volumes to his depraved indifference to God's perfect message.
                    It said he as Astronomers you silly goose, not astrologers. There is a very VERY big difference ya know? But that's alright. You are forgiven, child. Now smile!

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                    • Pastor Ezekiel
                      Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                       
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 78553

                      #11
                      Re: Creationism dismissed as 'a kind of paganism' by Vatican's as

                      Originally posted by Khorib View Post
                      It said he as Astronomers you silly goose, not astrologers. There is a very VERY big difference ya know? But that's alright. You are forgiven, child. Now smile!
                      What's the difference? Both are equally satanic and false.
                      Who Will Jesus Damn?

                      Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                      Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                      Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                      • I am a Tool
                        Confirmed Enemy of God
                        • May 2009
                        • 91

                        #12
                        Re: Creationism dismissed as 'paganism' by Vatican!

                        We already know that God knows how everything will go down, and that it will work in his favor. So I don't see why we should worry about this stuff

                        God has nothing to worry about


                        Love
                        ~Truth

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                        • James Peter
                          Papist Stooge
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 401

                          #13
                          Re: Creationism dismissed as 'paganism' by Vatican!

                          How can you disagree with what the Vatican says? They are God's voice on earth!
                          in nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritūs Sancti

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                          • Wash O'Hanley
                            Debate Moderator (and participant)
                            Master Debater-- Has Never Been Defeated in a Debate
                            Louder Than Reason
                            True Christian™
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 2126

                            #14
                            Re: Creationism dismissed as 'paganism' by Vatican!

                            Originally posted by James Peter View Post
                            How can you disagree with what the Vatican says? They are God's voice on earth!
                            No they're not.
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                            • James Hutchins
                              True Christian™
                              Just a Regular Nice Guy
                               
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 29453

                              #15
                              Re: Creationism dismissed as 'paganism' by Vatican!

                              Originally posted by James Peter View Post
                              How can you disagree with what the Vatican says? They are God's voice on earth!
                              The vatican is mob run
                              Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                              Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                              Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                              Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                              Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                              Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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