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Default Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth? - 05-23-2014, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor View Post
How can she be "obviously" goth if goth is about the music and has nothing to do with what you wear? All we could see is the clothes. There is a scene where people wear T-shirts for ironic effect. How would we know she's not one of those?


That button leads to the quoted post and in this case to the following statement:



Pretty typical of the gothic thought processes we experience here.
Ah. Thank you. While the majority of that person's post is correct, there are two things that are wrong.

If a genre or subgenre moves away from it's roots, and stops sounding anything like itself, then it has clearly become something else. Darkwave cannot stop being Darkwave and yet continue to be Darkwave. It either has a Goth sound or it's not Darkwave. They also should have elaborated better on what they meant by moving away from it's Goth roots. Without knowing what they mean by "non Goth darkwave" it's hard to elaborate on this. If they mean bands like Blutengel, they are EBM not Darkwave.

As to Gothic Metal, the reason it is confused as being Goth is not just because of the name. It is because real Gothic Metal is a mixture of Goth Rock and Death/Doom Metal. It is mostly more Metal than Goth, but it has a high Goth influence. Anthemon for example were influenced by Goth Rock, and one of the members was also in the Goth Rock band Invading Chapel. Morten Veland from Sirenia, and formerly of Tristania, was the guitarist for the Goth Rock band Elusive. You can hear Goth influence in Tristania, EARLY Sirenia (before they went Symphonic Metal), and Anthemon. Amatris are also highly influenced by Goth Rock. They are probably the best Gothic Metal band IMO because they are the best mixture of Goth Rock and Death/Doom. Early Theatre of Tragedy, Paradise Lost, Type O Negative, Ravenland, etc., are also influenced by Goth Rock.

Pagans don't care what your religious documents say. Nor do Goths. They really have nothing to do with anything. Goth is a genre of music and subculture built around that music. It has nothing to do with religion.

There are no subliminal messages in anyone's posts. If someone says "not" it means not. I'm sorry if you have bad reading comprehension. I'm also sorry if you think a picture of someone who is skinny or toned, and is in a healthy weight limit is fat, and I'm sorry to say this but if that is what you think than you need to speak to a professional about your delusions...or discuss what constitutes a healthy weight with a doctor or a professional trainer.

" Goth is all about a “certain type of music” yet goths may be identified by “can wear
normal clothes too”"

Goths being able to wear normal clothing is not a point of identification. It just means Goth is not about fashion. It has a fashion, but it is not a fashion. You can listen to any type of music without dressing like the bands.

And yet again, ICP is not Goth, so it would be appreciated if you would stop using a fat kid wearing a "psychopathic rap" t-shirt as an example of a "Goth." Unless you have some link or screenshot to prove they have other music tastes...

"What's with the umbrellas? It's not even raining? "

I find it hard to believe that you do not know what a parasol is.


“And the slain of the Lord shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried, they shall be dung upon the ground.” Jeremiah 25:33
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