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Originally Posted by winstonsomething
It was repeatedly stated that man was given free will. You have got free will, you can do whatever you want. Which means if you use torture on your children, that is what you want to do. You claim that CrankyOldMan sees torture as a means to an end (oh, I can read, I assure you, I just question his honesty in this respect). That doesn't change anything. Nobody is forcing him to torment his children, to beat them, to put them out in the cold naked, to humiliate them, to let them starve. It his way of parenting, which he has chosen on his own, as the decent one, because an ancient book tells him to. You cannot put responsibility on an ancient book. CrankyOldMan came up with very well thought out ideas which would sure cause your children agony. The careful design of the different means suggest that he is well aware of what he does. Torturing your children is an atrocity and you cannot make an ancient book responsible for your actions. By that means, if CrankyOldMan is serious about this, and he seems to be, he is - what words did you use?
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As usual the God-mocker takes the word torture out of context. As I stated earlier this is called conditioning. Without conditioning a child will grow up with no morals. It is never too early to start conditioning of the child. I began at three weeks with my eldest son and he is now a strapping lad of 6'6" that is an absolute pleasure to spend time with. He tells me himself that he is glad to have been raised in a Godly manner.