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Originally Posted by True Disciple
Friend, you shouldn't take Scripture out of context. If you had read further, you would have come across this Verse:
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That is true, you have to use all scriptures, to come to the correct understanding. No contradictions.
Psalm 51:5 (King James Version)
5Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and
in sin did my mother conceive me.
Romans 3:23 (King James Version)
23
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Ephesians 2:3-7 (King James Version)
3Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the
children of wrath, even as others.
4But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5
Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ,
(by grace ye are saved )
6And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
7That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
We are all born into sin. We can not escape that. We all fall short of the glory of God. In Ephesians 2:3 we also are "children of wrath, even as others".
In verse 5 "Even when we were dead in sins", Jesus counted us worthy to go with him. These ones are the one that follow Jesus.
[COLOR="Blue"]All the scriptures have to be in harmony. So in Romans 3:23 says
all have fallen short of Gods glory, that is about all of us.
That is why the scripture in Ephesians 2:5 the brackets say (by grace ye are saved ) the reason we need grace is because even though we sin, he still took us with him. No grace would be needed if we were perfect.
All the scriptures in the bible talking about man, and his righteousness or perfection, have to be in harmony with each other.
So if you say, men who follow Christ are perfect and don't sin, then that understanding contradicts many of the scriptures on the topic.
There were many men in the bible that were good men and God was with them. But none of them could do what Jesus did. Because they were not perfect. God chose Jesus to come to the earth because he was going to be a perfect man ( physically) and he was sinless. All of us were born into sin, and imperfection.