[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Smitten With Joy (children's palette competition)

3VII may be Welt.

Thank you for your contribution Mr Fisher.

A quick search does not show the word welt in the KJV.

Isaiah 1:6 From the sole of the foote, euen vnto the head, there is no soundnesse in it; but wounds, and bruises, and putrifying sores: they haue not beene closed, neither bound vp, neither mollified with oyntment.
©1611

Isaiah 1:6 KJV has wounds
HolmanChristianStandardBible+NASV+NIV(notUKversion )+NIV1984+Today’sNIV+NewLivingTranslation have welt
In KJV however we find putrifying sores which could be an alternative. At 5v there is stinking wound from Psalm 38:5 - the context is different and so putrifying sores would be a new hue.

There is a mention in the apocrypha at Ecclesiasticus 28:17
CommonEnglishBible+GoodNews have welt
KJV1611 has markes in the flesh APOCRYPHA LINK MAY BE UNLOCKED BY PASTORS ONLY




There are two other interesting passages, first:

Ezekiel 16:6 And when I passed by thee, and saw thee polluted in thine owne blood, I said vnto thee when thou wast in thy blood, Liue: yea I said vnto thee when thou wast in thy blood, Liue.
©1611

AmericanStandardVersion+Darby have weltering
AmericanStandardVersion: "And I passed by thee, and saw thee weltering in thy blood"
Darby: "And I passed by thee, and saw thee weltering in thy blood"

(similarly Ezekiel 16:22)

second:

Judges 5:27 At her feete he bowed, he fell, he lay downe: at her feet he bowed, he fell; where he bowed, there he fel down dead.
©1611

WycliffeBible has weltered
WycliffeBible: "He felled betwixt her feet, (and) he failed, and died; he was weltered before her feet, and he lay without life, and wretchedful."

So there are a number of possibilities:

putrifying sores from Isaiah 1:6
polluted in thy blood from Ezekiel 16:6,22
fell down dead from Judges 5:27

There may be too few references to putrefaction in the palette, so if you'd like to match one up to 3vii (or any other hue) that would be great. The references are all KJV but in finding the passages it's turned out that different verses are at present from different editions of the KJV, which I will remedy when the set is complete (or nearly).

Let me know and I'll include it

ML

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Smitten With Joy (children's palette competition)

UPDATE 17

1 i Break Their Bones
1 ii Corpse
1 iii Sinew
1 iv Mildewe
1 v Skull
1 vi
1 vii Extreme Burning

2 i Scarlet
2 ii
2 iii Cut Off His Head
2 iv
2 v
2 vi Stripes
2 vii

3 i
3 ii Blains
3 iii
3 iv
3 v Inflammation
3 vi Emerods
3 vii Bowels

4 i Blood
4 ii Liver
4 iii Kidneys
4 iv
4 v Sore Botch
4 vi
4 vii

5 i
5 ii The Botch of Egypt
5 iii Blasting
5 iv
5 v Stinking Wound
5 vi Stinking Carcass
5 vii Scab

6 i Dung
6 ii Grasse Be Withered
6 iii
6 iv Drink Pisse
6 v sore sickness
6 vi Frogge
6 vii

7 i
7 ii
7 iii Blewnes (of a wound)
7 iv Bruise
7 v
7 vi Leprosy set*
7 vii

*Leprosy set comprises:
silver leaf (with gilding kit)
pure silver emulsion
Silver Acetate (powdered, with applicator)
Silver Nitrate (powdered, with applicator)

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Smitten With Joy (children's palette competition)

UPDATE 18

1 i Break Their Bones
1 ii Corpse
1 iii Sinew
1 iv Mildewe
1 v Skull
1 vi
1 vii Extreme Burning

2 i Scarlet
2 ii
2 iii Cut Off His Head
2 iv
2 v
2 vi Stripes
2 vii

3 i
3 ii Blains
3 iii
3 iv
3 v Inflammation
3 vi Emerods
3 vii Bowels

4 i Blood
4 ii Liver
4 iii Kidneys
4 iv
4 v Sore Botch
4 vi
4 vii

5 i Carkeises
5 ii The Botch of Egypt
5 iii Blasting
5 iv
5 v Stinking Wound
5 vi Stinking Carcass
5 vii Scab

6 i Dung
6 ii Grasse Be Withered
6 iii
6 iv Drink Pisse
6 v Sore Sickness
6 vi Frogge
6 vii

7 i
7 ii
7 iii Blewnes (of a wound)
7 iv Bruise
7 v
7 vi Leprosy set*
7 vii

*Leprosy set comprises:
silver leaf (with gilding kit)
pure silver emulsion
Silver Acetate (powdered, with applicator)
Silver Nitrate (powdered, with applicator)

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Smitten With Joy (children's palette competition)

UPDATE 19

1 i Break Their Bones
1 ii Corpse
1 iii Sinew
1 iv Mildewe
1 v Skull
1 vi
1 vii Extreme Burning

2 i Scarlet
2 ii
2 iii Cut Off His Head
2 iv
2 v
2 vi Stripes
2 vii

3 i
3 ii Blains
3 iii
3 iv
3 v Inflammation
3 vi Emerods
3 vii Bowels

4 i Blood
4 ii Liver
4 iii Kidneys
4 iv
4 v Sore Botch
4 vi
4 vii

5 i Carkeises
5 ii The Botch of Egypt
5 iii Blasting
5 iv
5 v Stinking Wound
5 vi Stinking Carcass
5 vii Scab

6 i Dung
6 ii Grasse Be Withered
6 iii Sand
6 iv Drink Pisse
6 v Sore Sickness
6 vi Frogge
6 vii

7 i
7 ii
7 iii Blewnes (of a wound)
7 iv Bruise
7 v
7 vi Leprosy set*
7 vii

*Leprosy set comprises:
silver leaf (with gilding kit)
pure silver emulsion
Silver Acetate (powdered, with applicator)
Silver Nitrate (powdered, with applicator)

[Brother Bob]

Re: Smitten With Joy (children's palette competition)

How intriguing! I have a suggestion:

4 vii - Harlot
Judges 16:1

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Smitten With Joy (children's palette competition)

UPDATE 20

1 i Break Their Bones
1 ii Corpse
1 iii Sinew
1 iv Mildewe
1 v Skull
1 vi
1 vii Extreme Burning

2 i Scarlet
2 ii
2 iii Cut Off His Head
2 iv
2 v
2 vi Stripes
2 vii

3 i
3 ii Blains
3 iii
3 iv
3 v Inflammation
3 vi Emerods
3 vii Bowels

4 i Blood
4 ii Liver
4 iii Kidneys
4 iv
4 v Sore Botch
4 vi
4 vii Harlot

5 i Carkeises
5 ii The Botch of Egypt
5 iii Blasting
5 iv
5 v Stinking Wound
5 vi Stinking Carcass
5 vii Scab

6 i Dung
6 ii Grasse Be Withered
6 iii Sand
6 iv Drink Pisse
6 v Sore Sickness
6 vi Frogge
6 vii

7 i
7 ii
7 iii Blewnes (of a wound)
7 iv Bruise
7 v
7 vi Leprosy set*
7 vii

*Leprosy set comprises:
silver leaf (with gilding kit)
pure silver emulsion
Silver Acetate (powdered, with applicator)
Silver Nitrate (powdered, with applicator)

The Harlot is mentioned frequently in The Bible and 4vii is a good place to put her. I have not yet decided which KJV site to link to but it won't be Bible Gateway because it defaults to NIV on my browser even if I use different settings (which it remembers sometimes) the point being that even
if it's the fault of my browser (currently in an exciting - if turbulent - relationship with java)
then should someone else's browser develop a similar quirk they might accidently view an NIV text before they had learned how to discern the Truth.

JUDGES 16:1 Then went Samson to Gaza, and saw there an harlot, and went in unto her.

The Official KJV site offers a couple of up-to-date spelling variants and does not mention “the original Latin” once and for this passage I've gone with the ©1769 because it has a picture of Samson carrying the gates of Gaza which fits in well with this morning's announcement that The Philistines have joined UNESCO and so places like Gaza will be in the news a bit together with updates regarding new funding arrangements (for UNESCO viz. that America will no longer be contributing) which is a wonderful opportunity to explain what happens to people when they resist His Perfect Love especially when they start frequenting the Harlot.

The whole chapter is linked with verse1 highlighted and Harlot goes in at 4vii. Thank you for contributing Mr Bob.

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JUDGES 16:23-30 Then the lords of the Philistines gathered them together for to offer a great sacrifice unto Dagon their god, and to rejoice: for they said, Our god hath delivered Samson our enemy into our hand. And when the people saw him, they praised their god: for they said, Our god hath delivered into our hands our enemy, and the destroyer of our country, which slew many of us. And it came to pass, when their hearts were merry, that they said, Call for Samson, that he may make us sport. And they called for Samson out of the prison house; and he made them sport: and they set him between the pillars. And Samson said unto the lad that held him by the hand, Suffer me that I may feel the pillars whereupon the house standeth, that I may lean upon them. Now the house was full of men and women; and all the lords of the Philistines were there; and there were upon the roof about three thousand men and women, that beheld while Samson made sport. And Samson called unto the LORD, and said, O Lord GOD, remember me, I pray thee, and strengthen me, I pray thee, only this once, O God, that I may be at once avenged of the Philistines for my two eyes. And Samson took hold of the two middle pillars upon which the house stood, and on which it was borne up, of the one with his right hand, and of the other with his left. And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with all his might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that were therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life.

How exciting to be living in the last days!

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Smitten With Joy (children's palette competition)

UPDATE 21

1 i Break Their Bones
1 ii Corpse
1 iii Sinew
1 iv Mildewe
1 v Skull
1 vi
1 vii Extreme Burning

2 i Scarlet
2 ii
2 iii Cut Off His Head
2 iv
2 v
2 vi Stripes
2 vii

3 i
3 ii Blains
3 iii
3 iv
3 v Inflammation
3 vi Emerods
3 vii Bowels

4 i Blood
4 ii Liver
4 iii Kidneys
4 iv
4 v Sore Botch
4 vi Loathsome disease
4 vii Harlot

5 i Carkeises
5 ii The Botch of Egypt
5 iii Blasting
5 iv
5 v Stinking Wound
5 vi Stinking Carcass
5 vii Scab

6 i Dung
6 ii Grasse Be Withered
6 iii Sand
6 iv Drink Pisse
6 v Sore Sickness
6 vi Frogge
6 vii

7 i
7 ii
7 iii Blewnes (of a wound)
7 iv Bruise
7 v
7 vi Leprosy set*
7 vii

*Leprosy set comprises:
silver leaf (with gilding kit)
pure silver emulsion
Silver Acetate (powdered, with applicator)
Silver Nitrate (powdered, with applicator)

Following Brother Bob's suggestion, I have been reading Psalms (and a medical dictionary) with my evening meal and at Psalm 38 there is reference to the loathsome disease.

Psalm 38:7 For my loins are filled with a loathsome disease: and there is no soundness in my flesh.

My illustrated medical dictionary shows that 4vi is the hue of many lesions associated with congenital syphilis, a loathsome disease if ever there was one doubly so because it originates in utero (or by contact with the mother during birth).

4vi is loathsome disease

The quote† uses the Biblos site which presents the relevant verse first followes by the rest of the chapter which could be appropriate for children checking out the Biblical reference who want to read further. This leads nicely into 4vii too.

†when the palette is finished I will standardise all the quotes to the same format, either KJV1611, KJV[BibleStudyTools] or maybe KJV[Biblos site].

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Smitten With Joy (children's palette competition)

UPDATE 22

1 i Break Their Bones
1 ii Corpse
1 iii Sinew
1 iv Mildewe
1 v Skull
1 vi
1 vii Extreme Burning

2 i Scarlet
2 ii
2 iii Cut Off His Head
2 iv
2 v
2 vi Stripes
2 vii

3 i
3 ii Blains
3 iii The Pestilence [courtesy Redeemed Papist]
3 iv
3 v Inflammation
3 vi Emerods
3 vii Bowels

4 i Blood
4 ii Liver
4 iii Kidneys
4 iv
4 v Sore Botch
4 vi Loathsome disease
4 vii Harlot

5 i Carkeises
5 ii The Botch of Egypt
5 iii Blasting
5 iv
5 v Stinking Wound
5 vi Stinking Carcass
5 vii Scab

6 i Dung
6 ii Grasse Be Withered
6 iii Sand
6 iv Drink Pisse
6 v Sore Sickness
6 vi Frogge
6 vii

7 i
7 ii
7 iii Blewnes (of a wound)
7 iv Bruise
7 v
7 vi Leprosy set*
7 vii

*Leprosy set comprises:
silver leaf (with gilding kit)
pure silver emulsion
Silver Acetate (powdered, with applicator)
Silver Nitrate (powdered, with applicator)

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Smitten With Joy (children's palette competition)

UPDATE 23

1 i Break Their Bones
1 ii Corpse
1 iii Sinew
1 iv Mildewe
1 v Skull
1 vi Scall
1 vii Extreme Burning

2 i Scarlet
2 ii
2 iii Cut Off His Head
2 iv
2 v
2 vi Stripes
2 vii

3 i
3 ii Blains
3 iii The Pestilence [courtesy Redeemed Papist]
3 iv
3 v Inflammation
3 vi Emerods
3 vii Bowels

4 i Blood
4 ii Liver
4 iii Kidneys
4 iv Putrifying Sores [with an acknowledgement to Isaac Fisher]
4 v Sore Botch
4 vi Loathsome disease
4 vii Harlot

5 i Carkeises
5 ii The Botch of Egypt
5 iii Blasting
5 iv Murrain (grievous)
5 v Stinking Wound
5 vi Stinking Carcass
5 vii Scab

6 i Dung
6 ii Grasse Be Withered
6 iii Sand
6 iv Drink Pisse
6 v Sore Sickness
6 vi Frogge
6 vii

7 i
7 ii
7 iii Blewnes (of a wound)
7 iv Bruise
7 v Skin Was Black
7 vi Leprosy set*
7 vii

*Leprosy set comprises:
silver leaf (with gilding kit)
pure silver emulsion
Silver Acetate (powdered, with applicator)
Silver Nitrate (powdered, with applicator)

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ONLY TEN LEFT !

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Smitten With Joy (children's palette competition)

7 vii appears to me to be gold, like the streets of the New Jerusalem. Revelation 21:21.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Smitten With Joy (children's palette competition)

Tkank-you Rev. Rodimer for that contribution. Revelation is a great book and Chapter 21 is one of may favourites.

Yes, it is gold and 7vii will come for you with hand plating accessories [SUITABLE FOR USE ON LILIES] & a renewable supply of gold leaf.

UPDATE 24

1 i Break Their Bones
1 ii Corpse
1 iii Sinew
1 iv Mildewe
1 v Skull
1 vi Scall
1 vii Extreme Burning

2 i Scarlet
2 ii
2 iii Cut Off His Head
2 iv
2 v
2 vi Stripes
2 vii

3 i
3 ii Blains
3 iii The Pestilence [courtesy Redeemed Papist]
3 iv
3 v Inflammation
3 vi Emerods
3 vii Bowels

4 i Blood
4 ii Liver
4 iii Kidneys
4 iv Putrifying Sores [with an acknowledgement to Isaac Fisher]
4 v Sore Botch
4 vi Loathsome disease
4 vii Harlot

5 i Carkeises
5 ii The Botch of Egypt
5 iii Blasting
5 iv Murrain (grievous)
5 v Stinking Wound
5 vi Stinking Carcass
5 vii Scab

6 i Dung
6 ii Grasse Be Withered
6 iii Sand
6 iv Drink Pisse
6 v Sore Sickness
6 vi Frogge
6 vii

7 i
7 ii
7 iii Blewnes (of a wound)
7 iv Bruise
7 v Skin Was Black
7 vi Leprosy set*
7 vii Gold with hand tools*

*Leprosy set comprises:
silver leaf (with gilding kit)
pure silver emulsion
Silver Acetate (powdered, with applicator)
Silver Nitrate (powdered, with applicator)

*Gold, with hand tools comprising:
a good quality Cyanide solution
200 ampère single phase rectifier [please specify voltage when ordering]
an appropriate size (suitable for a broad range of materials)
a renewable supply gold leaf

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ONLY 9 TO GO !

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NOTE: I've used the Biblos site for the King James verse, Revelation 21:21, with the remaining verses of the chapter too. Any comments as to whether that (as opposed to just the single verse, like this) might be to difficult for the younger age groups would be appreciated. The KJV site now offers the 1769 edition in red, which matches well - but it does suggest that modernity is OK which, as we all know, it is not because it leads to gender conflict, homosexuality, prostitution and drugs. Or should I stick with the 1611 edition? It get very confusing here sometimes, Rev. Rodimer I think I need to go and lie down

[Noah Sole]

Re: Smitten With Joy (children's palette competition)

Sister
7(i) reminds of that giant sea serpent 'leviathan'.

Isaiah 27:1
In that day the Lord with his sore and great and strong sworde shall punish LEUIATHAN the piercing serpent, euen LEUIATHAN that crooked serpent, and hee shall slay the dragon that is in the Sea.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Smitten With Joy (children's palette competition)

Sister
7(i) reminds of that giant sea serpent 'leviathan'.

Isaiah 27:1
In that day the Lord with his sore and great and strong sworde shall punish LEUIATHAN the piercing serpent, euen LEUIATHAN that crooked serpent, and hee shall slay the dragon that is in the Sea.

Before going with 7i as Leviathan I'll ask the Creation Scientists whether the identity or hue of that crooked serpent has been determined. I hope that's OK.

Thanks for the suggestion and I'll see what they say

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Smitten With Joy (children's palette competition)

There has been a lively discussion going on concerning LEUIATHAN and The Blue Hypothesis. I have no opinion on the subject of course and after weighing up all the arguments for and against (actually there weren't any "against" arguments) am now able to include LEUIATHAN and Isaiah 27:1 at 7i

I would like to thank Mr Sole for his patience and for his valuable contribution especially as this is a children's palette and for the lovely LEUIATHAN picture he supplied. Here it is shown against a background of 3iv (an as yet unnamed hue) and I think he stands out beautifully. Note the lovely red eyes.

The palette mostly comprises actual hues available from artists' suppliers in the form of either pencils or artist's block. One exception would be 2vii - I'd thought that if a child had a red pencil they already used for drawing Bible pictures it'd be a shame to say they couldn't use it and the same for Rows 6 & 7 (except leprosy set and gold kit) where I have used standard hues so that the little ones can use some of their own there, too as they enjoy illustrating all those cool Bible stories. LEUIATHAN is a great match and will go well with any of the reds.

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Here's the latest update
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UPDATE 25

1 i Break Their Bones
1 ii Corpse [thank-you LordHaveMercy]
1 iii Sinew
1 iv Mildewe
1 v Skull
1 vi Scall
1 vii Extreme Burning

2 i Scarlet
2 ii
2 iii Cut Off His Head
2 iv
2 v
2 vi Stripes
2 vii

3 i
3 ii Blains
3 iii The Pestilence [courtesy Redeemed Papist]
3 iv
3 v Inflammation
3 vi Emerods
3 vii Bowels

4 i Blood
4 ii Liver
4 iii Kidneys
4 iv Putrifying Sores [with an acknowledgement to Isaac Fisher]
4 v Sore Botch
4 vi Loathsome disease
4 vii Harlot [thank-you Brother Bob]

5 i Carkeises
5 ii The Botch of Egypt
5 iii Blasting
5 iv Murrain (grievous)
5 v Stinking Wound
5 vi Stinking Carcass
5 vii Scab

6 i Dung
6 ii Grasse Be Withered
6 iii Sand
6 iv Drink Pisse
6 v Sore Sickness
6 vi Frogge
6 vii

7 i LEUIATHAN [with thanks to Noah Sole for The Blue Hypothesis]
7 ii
7 iii Blewnes (of a wound)
7 iv Bruise
7 v Skin Was Black
7 vi Leprosy set* [acknowledgement to Rev. M. Rodimer]
7 vii Gold with hand tools* [acknowledgement to Rev. M. Rodimer]

*Leprosy set comprises:
silver leaf (with gilding kit)
pure silver emulsion
Silver Acetate (powdered, with applicator)
Silver Nitrate (powdered, with applicator)

*Gold, with hand tools comprising:
a good quality Cyanide solution
200 ampère single phase rectifier [please specify voltage when ordering]
an appropriate size (suitable for a broad range of materials)
a renewable supply gold leaf

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ONLY 8 TO GO !

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[Noah Sole]

Re: Smitten With Joy (children's palette competition)

Thank-you Sister

Colour 6 vii should be named Red Sea after that famous verse:

Exodus 14:21
And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the LORD caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night, and made the sea dry land, and the waters were divided.

The colour in your palette is exactly the same blue as in this life-like illustration: