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Default Re: Why Aren't Dinosaurs in the Bible? - 02-14-2010, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Schopenhauer View Post
You can calculate Pi by yourself. It is ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter.
That isn't what the Bible tells us!


1 Kings 7: 23And he maketh the molten sea, ten by the cubit from its edge unto its edge; [it is] round all about, and five by the cubit [is] its height, and a line of thirty by the cubit doth compass it round about;

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1 Timothy 6: 20
The word science was used by John as a word for knowledge, and they meant that you will not get as much knowledge by "owning the holy ghost" than by following the words of the apostle
Whether the word means knowledge does not matter. It still tells us to listen to the Bible rather than the words of men claiming they know better.

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My Faith is in me and I know that
You claim to have faith, yet you demand proof for the Bible. There is no faith in that.

http://www.exchangedlife.com/Creation/compat.shtml

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Are Evolution and Creation Compatible?

More and more Christians are adopting evolution as a compatible doctrine with the creation story. So is evolution compatible with the Bible? Could God have used evolution to complete creation? No. Evolution is 100% incompatible with the Bible. There are four reasons that evolution could not be in God's plan of creation.
One. Death came by sin. Sin did not enter into the world until after Adam and Eve disobeyed God. Evolution requires death in order to arrive to Adam. Therefore, for a Christian who believes in evolution (even theistic evolution, the 'GAP theory' or progressive evolution) by default, must believe the Bible to be false. Not only do you have to discredit the first 11 chapters of Genesis, but also the New Testament. The foundation of the New Testament is that sin entered through death and Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin (Romans 5:12). The Bible says,
16 ...For the judgment which came from one offense resulted in condemnation
17 For if by the one man's offense death reigned ... much more those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ
You cannot believe Geneses or these passages and believe in evolution. If evolution exists, then the Bible is false. Death did not come by sin but existed millions or billions of years before man arrived. Salvation through Christ is built on the need of salvation born in Genesis. Romans builds the Christian faith on this principles. If this is wrong, so is the gospel of Jesus Christ. There is no middle ground provided by scripture.
Two. The facts don't fit. Every cell, every organ, every organism, every biological function points to detailed design. Every part living processes is so interdependent that anything outside of careful, purposeful design becomes absurd. Sagan once said that each cell contains enough data to fill up one million volumes of the Encyclopedia Britannica. Much research has proven that if one function of the cell is removed, the interdependent processes will cease to function and the cell will die. Logic drives us to conclude that if one million volumes of data must be present to sustain life, then everything had to be present at the formation of the cell and had to be added at the exact same instant. There are not numeric odds big enough to sustain these 'by chance' phenomena. Design must be concluded.

Three. Evolution was born out of atheism. The entire purpose of the evolutionary theory was to answer the question of origins without acknowledging a creator. Look at the pioneers of evolution. All of them were atheists. The foundation of evolution was to support atheism. If the foundation is faulty, nothing else matters. You cannot realistically separate evolution from atheism. Evolution teaches people that they are products of chance. They were not designed with a purpose and there is no creator in which we are accountable to. The leading modern preacher of evolution is Richard Dawkins. He said that he believes that atheism is the only logical deduction from evolution.

Four. Anything that takes focus and glory from God is not of God. One common theme throughout the Bible is the importance of giving glory to God. Constantly we are commanded to glorify God because God is worthy. Indeed God is worthy. God created us and the world we live in with amazing detail and design. We will not know until heaven the depth of God creation. In fact, I believe we will have all eternity to continue exploring God's amazing creation. To say that God would use by-chance evolution for creation means that we believe that God is willing to hide behind the scenes allowing creation get the glory of continuing what He started. This is not consistent with scripture. The glory belongs to God and God alone. God created this world and man for His pleasure and His glory. Because evolution draws the world's focus away from God, we know it is not of God.

In conclusion, I believe it is clear that these two world views are incompatible. Trying to unionize creation and evolution is a trend that is growing in the church. Many people try to believe both creation and evolution. This idea began to become popular when the 'Gap Theory' was popularized. If you are not familiar with the Gap theory, it is a theory that there is unwritten history lies between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2. Some 'gappers' believe a gap lies between some of the creation stages. The reality is that there is absolutely no scriptural basis at all for any gap. Christians began to turn to alternative creation doctrines when evolutionary 'sciences' became popular. Believing that the facts were against creation, people began to search for ways to marry evolution and creation. This was especially true when the so-called missing links began to be announced. Every missing link has since been disproven. Most curriculums continue to teach the links as fact either out of ignorance or out of denial. One thing I have discovered through many conversations with evolutionist and atheist is that they are ignorant of evolution science. What evolution scientists and researchers have acknowledged as misinformation or theories that have been proven false, the average person still believes as though it were gospel.

Christians as a whole, do a terrible job of defending creation. The evidence presented by the vast majority of Christians usually contains faith answers. I see arguments in response to atheists, "You just have to have faith", or "It is not our place to question, only to believe". How far we have slipped in the Christian world. Christian scientists founded almost every major science. Now the argument is that Christians can't reason but only think in terms of faith. God has provided us with logic, reason and inquisitive minds. It is not a sin to use these tools. Viewing all the evidence drives you back to creation. Christians I have met are often afraid of the evidence because of the fear that the Bible will be proven wrong. Atheists are afraid of the evidence because it undermines their self-lordship doctrines. Atheists toss out any information that does not support evolution or they over simplify it to make it sound like it fits the evolution model.

Evolutionists accuse Christians of not knowing the facts. Many times this is true. I have concluded that both sides are guilty of ignorance regarding the facts. The difference is that atheists/evolutionists do a much better job of intimidation than Christians do. Atheists are very quick to call themselves intellectual and have their cannons loaded with a handful of facts. When you begin to dig in, you find that atheists are completely clueless as well. Most do not know why they believe, they only repeat what they hear or they consult infidel.org or some of the other atheist information centers. The problem with this information is the simplistic reasoning. Evolution always begins at a complex starting point and goes from there. If you can stop the argument from going forward and target questions back to 'how did you get at this starting point?' we find the argument crumbles very quickly. When you dig into the grass roots of creation, they have no explanations. Every atheist will immediately jump to intimidation and name calling when questioned on the logical level. This is their only defense because evolution does not add up.

Evolution springs from a lack of knowledge. It can only survive with missing pieces. The more information included in the discussion, the more leaks the evolutionary argument springs. Evolution's greatest weapon is ignorance of Christians. Most people (Christians included) accept evolution at face value. When we toss out the argument of simplicity and really begin to look at how this design could happen by chance, there is absolutely no logic that points to evolution."
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