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Originally Posted by ayerea
i have no names because i do not know them.
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Wow, what a shock. It's a lot easier to attack someone's beliefs in the abstract than it is to show a single concrete example. I'd hoped for more from you, but, frankly, didn't really expect it.
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but all the people, every gay, every person who was convicted of witch craft for no reason other then being a woman. Every person who was killed in the crusades, every black slave, every native culture of the americas.
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All the people? You can't name a single individual, so you just go to the opposite extreme and say everyone? Well, you've got me convinced. NOT.
It is wrong to put someone to death only because he is gay--he has to actually have sex with another man before we advocate putting him to death under Leviticus 20:13 (and most of us don't think that applies to lesbians, though, of course, they are sinners, too).
The Bible is very clear that only
real witches are to be killed under Exodus 22:18. Anyway, it's very rare that we Landoverites actually put a witch to death these days, given all of the ungodly laws on the books that unfairly interfere with our practice of our religion.
Please address your remarks on the crusades to Father Thomas or other Catholics. I'm not saying they didn't have a good idea or two, but there weren't any Baptists involved to the best of my knowledge, and certainly nobody from Landover, so it's hardly fair to blame us for their excesses.
The Bible has several rules to guarantee that slaves are treated well, whether black or otherwise--we believe in those rules, too. You might want to check your facts before leveling that sort of accusation at us.
Do you really mean
every native culture of the Americas? Even, say, the Carib Indians, whose main source of protein was the bodies of the Arawak Indians, whom they penned up like cattle for slaughter? It sounds like your main source of knowledge on Indians is the movie
Pocohantas. Trust me on this, there were no talking raccoons around back then and the native "Americans" were plenty willing to kill each other and collect the scalps to prove it.
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Buddhists dont preach to people about how if their religion isnt followed to the letter, they will burn in hell.
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True. But they do preach that the downtrodden should not try to lift themselves up and overthrow oppressive governments, because their low status results from bad acts in their previous lives for which they must atone. The Dalai Lama used this argument to maintain himself as the head of a brutal slave state before the equally evil Communists kicked him out and imposed their own brutal slave state. There are a few Tibetans in Landover (our ministry ranges worldwide) who remember the old regime, and I'm not afraid to give you names to back up my claims: Lhakpa Gyaltsen, Tsering Tshoko, and Kelsang Tashi in Dhasa have all written about this in the
Landover Republican.
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And most muslums dont preach that. Ive met and become friends with several, and beyond simple questions and discussion, i have never been preached to by them about how their religion is right.
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Oh, sure, Islam is a real "hugs and flowers and puppies" religion. Look, we have inserted operatives into mosques across the country, and I can assure you that what your friends will say to your face and what they say about you behind your back are two
very different things.
Muslims know that the Koran has too many contradicitions for anyone who's actually read it to believe, so they use swords, not words, to convert those infidels whom they don't just kill outright. You should ask your Muslim friends to name the US Imams who have publicly condemned suicide bombings in Israel. I'll give you good odds that they, like most people who don't actually have evidence to back up their claims, can't give you
a single name.
Or maybe you should go straight to the source and read the Koran. It's a definite page turner, if you're into the genre of absurdist, internally inconsistent, reign-of-terror fantasy.
Anyway, it sounds to me like what you're really saying is that you don't reject Landover Baptist Church and it's adherents, you reject the whole Bible. Is that a fair statement of what you believe? If so, then I guess we'll need to agree to disagree.