Arizona Gets Godly: "Life Begins BEFORE Conception," says Governor

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Today Arizona Governor Jan Brewer signed into law a bill that will radically redefine when life begins for an unborn child.

A State Senate amendment to the bill, H.B. 2036, states that a fetus’ life starts not at conception, but up to two weeks before then—“from the first day of the last menstrual period of the pregnant woman.”

The controversial language is part of a plan seeking to ban abortions after a fetus is 20 weeks old. Abortion-rights advocates say the new definition would essentially make the prohibition take effect at 18 weeks, not 20 weeks.

The law is expected to take effect in late July, 90 days after the close of the current legislative session.

http://www.allgov.com/Top_Stories/ViewNews/Arizona_Law_Declares_Life_Begins_before_Conception__Update_120413

http://rt.com/usa/news/abortion-arizona-law-brewer-003/

Life begins BEFORE conception--right when God creates the soul and sends it down. Take that, stupid science! I don't care if you say it's not logically possible! Praise Jesus!

Iron sharpeneth iron indeed. And Arizona has proved to be a bulwark of truth for all (and to think that a place once filled with only sand, snakes, rats, and godless injuns now outdoes every state on righteous pro-life-ism!)

You know Jesus is up in heaven rejoicing now that abortion is yet one step closer to being banned altogether.

Pastor Ed

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Arizona Gets Godly: "Life Begins BEFORE Conception," says Governor

Finally some logic based on something other than science which just wants to kill babies and is looking for any excuse.

Contraception is also therefore an act of murder because if there's a little soul waiting... waiting... waiting for that magic conception moment and the pre-destined sperm is thwarted!

We have a whole common sense creed springing like a beautiful flower of Godly loveliness from this one burst of inspiration from the Holy Spirit.

GLORY!

[SUV]

Re: Arizona Gets Godly: "Life Begins BEFORE Conception," says Governor

It's Good to see science making a comeback in this God-less world. But what can Landover Baptist Church possibly do to become even more GODLY than that?
We will NOT be seen as a #2 "sloppy seconds" entity in the Religious world!

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

Re: Arizona Gets Godly: "Life Begins BEFORE Conception," says Governor

The next logical step would be a law that would make it illegal for wives to deny sex to their Godly husbands. After all, if there is a soul waiting to be conceived in their cooters, not letting their husband's seed access to said soul would be the same as abortion.

[SUV]

Re: Arizona Gets Godly: "Life Begins BEFORE Conception," says Governor

The next logical step would be a law that would make it illegal for wives to deny sex to their Godly husbands. After all, if there is a soul waiting to be conceived in their cooters, not letting their husband's seed access to said soul would be the same as abortion.

Perhaps the Wives should be made to dress in Victoria's Secretions in order to facilitate the process even more

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Arizona Gets Godly: "Life Begins BEFORE Conception," says Governor

The next logical step would be a law that would make it illegal for wives to deny sex to their Godly husbands. After all, if there is a soul waiting to be conceived in their cooters, not letting their husband's seed access to said soul would be the same as abortion.

You've no problems in THAT department from what I hear, you old dog, you!

That little virgin you took in certainly seems to be coming on nicely.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Arizona Gets Godly: "Life Begins BEFORE Conception," says Governor

I'm not so sure about this.

I thought the soul lived in the sperm, not the egg.

If an egg is a human, which makes every single menstrual cycle without a resulting pregnancy an abortion, then what is a sperm?

Or is the soul in two pieces that have to be joined? Does that mean there are many possible combinations (a few hundred thousand sperm and one or two eggs), each of which would result in a different person?

Or does God just inject a soul after conception?

I'm confused.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Arizona Gets Godly: "Life Begins BEFORE Conception," says Governor

I'm not so sure about this.

I thought the soul lived in the sperm, not the egg.

If an egg is a human, which makes every single menstrual cycle without a resulting pregnancy an abortion, then what is a sperm?

Or is the soul in two pieces that have to be joined? Does that mean there are many possible combinations (a few hundred thousand sperm and one or two eggs), each of which would result in a different person?

Or does God just inject a soul after conception?

I'm confused.

I think it's time to fall back on scripture:

Titus 3:1 Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,

Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

God clearly put this man in a position of power to do just this.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Arizona Gets Godly: "Life Begins BEFORE Conception," says Governor

I'm not so sure about this.

I thought the soul lived in the sperm, not the egg.

If an egg is a human, which makes every single menstrual cycle without a resulting pregnancy an abortion, then what is a sperm?

Or is the soul in two pieces that have to be joined? Does that mean there are many possible combinations (a few hundred thousand sperm and one or two eggs), each of which would result in a different person?

Or does God just inject a soul after conception?

I'm confused.

Maybe you are thinking of humunculus?



Yet another example of science getting it wrong.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Arizona Gets Godly: "Life Begins BEFORE Conception," says Governor

Life begins BEFORE conception--right when God creates the soul and sends it down. Take that, stupid science! I don't care if you say it's not logically possible! Praise Jesus!...

So God creates a soul (at least one, maybe more) in the belly of every woman every month from puberty until menopause.

The vast majority of these souls never even get fertilized, let alone born.

God tells us (in the Bible) that souls need to repent and be baptized in order to go to Heaven. If they don't go to Heaven, they go to Hell.

So almost all of those souls will go to Hell, except for a tiny fraction which are actually born, less the ones of those who die in infancy and childhood, less the ones who don't accept Christ, less the ones who don't get baptized (properly), less the ones who don't live in English-speaking areas and thus never have a chance to hear the "Good" news about a Jewish zombie who impregnated His own mother with Himself so He could be hoisted on a stick and "die" (temporarily) and go to Hell and come back so He could forgive us the sins that He created and foisted upon us because somebody yielded to the temptation (that He gave them) and ate a fruit (that He created and put in her reach) in a magical garden after a serpent convinced her to.

He is so merciful to create all those souls just to send them to eternal torment in Hell.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go vomit.

[Catherine Moore]

Re: Arizona Gets Godly: "Life Begins BEFORE Conception," says Governor

Ah, yes, but no new souls are created while a woman is pregnant.

So if she gets pregnant the first time it is possible, and then continues to get pregnant every time it is physically possible after each birth then not a single soul created by God is wasted.

Clearly, God is telling us that women who are not pregnant are murderers.

And I think it must be the egg (although what do I know?). Just because - at the risk of degenerating into pornographic filth - there are simply so many more sperm. If each one was a potential person then there is no possible way every single one could be "empersoned" and it would be impossible for men not to become murderers. And thats leaving aside the non-guaranteed nature of pregnancy.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Arizona Gets Godly: "Life Begins BEFORE Conception," says Governor

He is so merciful to create all those souls just to send them to eternal torment in Hell.

It is because your heart is still hardened that you cannot see He is so Merciful to create a way OUT of the eternal torment that every soul deserves, being defiled with a sinful nature and all.

<---- Christ's crucifixion is for our salvation!

[Thinks Design]

(although what do I know?)

Why are you so hard on yourself? You strike me as an intelligent woman. How did you get through university thinking that way?

ThinksDesign

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Arizona Gets Godly: "Life Begins BEFORE Conception," says Governor

I think it's time to fall back on scripture:

Titus 3:1 Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,

Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

God clearly put this man in a position of power to do just this.

Jan Brewer is a man?!

I had no idea.


I suppose it explains how she-he got so mouthy with the President.

However, that's not really relevant. Nor does your selection of Scripture address my questions about when God injects the soul . . . but thanks, anyway.

[Darren Ingram-Myers]

Re: Arizona Gets Godly: "Life Begins BEFORE Conception," says Governor

However, that's not really relevant. Nor does your selection of Scripture address my questions about when God injects the soul . . . but thanks, anyway.

When the baby draws its first breath.

http://joeschwartz.net/life.htm

We should support a woman's right to choose up until that point.