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Originally Posted by Patriot of the U.S.A
Don't pick leave out some words of my post to suit your needs, I said: For example, when he says he hates Esau, he does not mean he hated Esau himself, rather, he meant he hated what Esau was doing.
I didn't just say when he says he hates Esau, he doesn't mean he hates Esau.
See the difference?
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Originally Posted by Patriot of the U.S.A
.. blah .. it's simply a result of the curse. It's not a punishment.
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So you don't know what "hate" means and now you're switching to "curse" — I'll assume you don't know what that means either.
Here's what God said at the time:
GENESIS 3
14 And the LORD God said vnto the Serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed aboue all cattel, and aboue euery beast of the field: vpon thy belly shalt thou goe, and dust shalt thou eate, all the dayes of thy life.
15 And I will put enmitie betweene thee and the woman, and betweene thy seed and her seed: it shal bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heele.
16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorowe and thy conception. In sorow thou shalt bring forth children: and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and hee shall rule ouer thee.
17 And vnto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened vnto the voyce of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commaunded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eate of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake: in sorow shalt thou eate of it all the dayes of thy life.
18 Thornes also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee: and thou shalt eate the herbe of the field.
19 In the sweate of thy face shalt thou eate bread, till thou returne vnto the ground: for out of it wast thou taken, for dust thou art, and vnto dust shalt thou returne.
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Do you know what "because" means?