[Alterboy]

Re: Questions to ask liberal "Christians"

A liebral is a liebral no matter how deviously they attempt to market themselves.

[tryingtobringsense]

Re: Questions to ask liberal "Christians"

Jesus was very liberal. He supported giving to the poor, and taking in the the sick and weary.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Questions to ask liberal "Christians"

Jesus was very liberal. He supported giving to the poor, and taking in the the sick and weary.

Are you claiming that liberals are more generous than normal people?

[tryingtobringsense]

Re: Questions to ask liberal "Christians"

No, everyone is capable of giving. I just trying to point out the Jesus would most likley be considered liberal by today's standards.

[Oliver Brendan Hayve]

Re: Questions to ask liberal "Christians"

No, everyone is capable of giving. I just trying to point out the Jesus would most likley be considered liberal by today's standards.

Preaching that we should give to the poor doesn't necessarily mean that one is a liberal. People of any political philosophy, even voluntaryism, can believe that we should give to the poor.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Questions to ask liberal "Christians"

Jesus was very liberal. He supported giving to the poor, and taking in the the sick and weary.

Please post the Scripture that backs up your claim.

Spoiler alert: Jesus is a REPUBLICAN.

[Ex-soccer player]

Re: Questions to ask liberal "Christians"

Jesus was very liberal. He supported giving to the poor, and taking in the the sick and weary.

Giving to the poor YES, but NOT to those who are just lazy and refuse to take up work and NOT to those who reject Jesus as Lord and Savior. I would give to DECENT poor if I'd ever encounter one. Jesus cares about the poor but primarily about the poor in spirit, not lazy "poor in money" welfare bums

[In-Human]

Re: Questions to ask liberal "Christians"

Well then, answering questions by more questions :
"We often hear that the Genesis creation accounts were never meant to be read literally. What historical evidence do you have for that assertion?"
Who need a proof ? What historical evidence have we at all of the Genesis creation ? You and me do not need proofs of that, because we have the Bible, which is not a rational argument, but a faith fact. A proof is a rational factor none expects from you, so why would you ever expect it from other christians ? (Unless someone can rationally prove each and every quote from the Bible he uses, which none will never ever be able to do).

"Which is the Word of God: those people’s interpretation of the Bible, or the Bible? If you are justified in reading the Bible in that way, why are homosexuals not equally justified in doing so?" To understand something, one needs to interpret it by the bias of language ; that's why there skilled and unskilled translators, as well as misunderstanding. That's why it's impossible to "literally" understand the Bible : a book inspired by God but done by mans, situated in its own cultural context but holding eternal truths, containing some heartwarming stories but also philosophical considerations, deserves at least to be treated with the respect the lesser assyrian scroll earns :experts who spent a lifetime doing researchs studies them, concert with each other and gain a transient understanding of it. Later on, they will work further on it to improve the gained knowledge, justifying theirs own authority on the rightness of theirs judgment. That is how knowledge works, like God's actions in our world, by "sharing the divine) Love."

[In-Human]

Re: Questions to ask liberal "Christians"

Please post the Scripture that backs up your claim.

Spoiler alert: Jesus is a REPUBLICAN.

And I do think Jesus said something like "give back to Caesar what is his own" ... If he did not want to be politically invested in his own country, why would he ever bother to decide between two equally corrupted wings in the XXI th century ?

A.M.D.G.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: Questions to ask liberal "Christians"

A.M.D.G.

Are you a Jesuit?

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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Well then, answering questions by more questions :
"We often hear that the Genesis creation accounts were never meant to be read literally. What historical evidence do you have for that assertion?"
Who need a proof ? What historical evidence have we at all of the Genesis creation ? You and me do not need proofs of that, because we have the Bible, which is not a rational argument, but a faith fact. A proof is a rational factor none expects from you, so why would you ever expect it from other christians ? (Unless someone can rationally prove each and every quote from the Bible he uses, which none will never ever be able to do).

How very postmodern of you. Lots of people have faith in lots of things, not all of which can logically be true. If God didn't provide us with a way to determine whose faith was correct and whose wasn't, God would have failed as God.

"Which is the Word of God: those people’s interpretation of the Bible, or the Bible? If you are justified in reading the Bible in that way, why are homosexuals not equally justified in doing so?" To understand something, one needs to interpret it by the bias of language ; that's why there skilled and unskilled translators, as well as misunderstanding. That's why it's impossible to "literally" understand the Bible : a book inspired by God but done by mans, situated in its own cultural context but holding eternal truths, containing some heartwarming stories but also philosophical considerations, deserves at least to be treated with the respect the lesser assyrian scroll earns :experts who spent a lifetime doing researchs studies them, concert with each other and gain a transient understanding of it. Later on, they will work further on it to improve the gained knowledge, justifying theirs own authority on the rightness of theirs judgment. That is how knowledge works, like God's actions in our world, by "sharing the divine) Love."

How hard would it be for an omnipotent God to express Himself clearly enough to avoid the need for all of that? God's words, which He repeatedly promised to preserve, cannot be analogized to secular writings.

Are you a Jesuit?

Given that person's ability to say a lot without actually answering the questions, that's entirely possible.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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A.M.D.G.

Are you a Jesuit?

It's a Catholic thing. It's Latin for "All My Damn Gods." Being pagans, they incorporate their pagan gods and goddesses into their "Saints" collection. This AMDG thing is a way to honor their pagan gods and goddesses, most especially Mary. It's sad, really. These Catholics have no idea of their own pagan roots, they just believe whatever their priests tell them.

[BaptistBethany]

Re: Questions to ask liberal "Christians"

It's a Catholic thing. It's Latin for "All My Damn Gods." Being pagans, they incorporate their pagan gods and goddesses into their "Saints" collection. This AMDG thing is a way to honor their pagan gods and goddesses, most especially Mary. It's sad, really. These Catholics have no idea of their own pagan roots, they just believe whatever their priests tell them.

Dear Mary, Like you said, it is sad. Most Catholics have never even read the Bible. If they would only read it, then they would truly become enlightened and realize the truth.

[In-Human]

Re: Questions to ask liberal "Christians"

Are you a Jesuit?

No, but I actually like theirs motto, a reminding of what truly matters.

[In-Human]

Re: Questions to ask liberal "Christians"

[QUOTE=Pastor Isaac Peters;1124663]How very postmodern of you. Lots of people have faith in lots of things, not all of which can logically be true. If God didn't provide us with a way to determine whose faith was correct and whose wasn't, God would have failed as God.
How hard would it be for an omnipotent God to express Himself clearly enough to avoid the need for all of that? "

Well we do agree on the fact that, if God failed to express himself clearly, he could not be almighty in the same time. But us, humans, are both fallible and really prompt to mix our own circumstances (by example political investment) and God's will. ( For examples of human ingenuity I strongly recommend C.S. Lewis's book "The Screwtape Letters" )
Are you really ready to take responsibility for each and every madman who obeyed his own wishful thinking and started, in his own delusions, to extract from the Bible (which one do not really matter) whatever character he liked, then started to act in a way he sincerely thought biblical ?
Is there really no need of a coordination of believers putting theirs faith in a trustworthy man (some people call them "pastor) to determine what it is correct to believe when you want from the bottom of your heart to keep on Christ's tracks , to answer his call:

" And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me."

Luke 9 : 23, King James Bible

Yours in Christ.