Originally Posted by Mistress Cookie
What an utterly insulting post at that site!!!!
RE: "God exists, because matter can't make ITSELF." You might wanna re-think your theory. It's a circular fallacy. Your argument is that "something can not be created out of nothing" (tired and boring argument). Therefore (A) god must have "poofed" it into existence. Here's where your argument takes a nose dive; Who created your god? Some other god with infinite powers +1? And who created that god? Some god with infinite powers +2? ( etc, etc, etc.) Of course, the god who created your god is going to be pissed beyond belief that you're worshiping his creation and not him, ad infinitium.
When we leave this Godôly site, we encounter such NEEDLESSLY nasty, crackerjack things!!!
The whole multiverse thing reminds me of other religions when gods beget gods. Look at the extent of the imagination one must go to length in creating all kinds of acrobatics. The burden of proof is upon them, despite this comment unwitting attempt to shift the burden upon the testimony of the Bible. I suspect that there are many a keyboards being head butted over this battle for the beginning in the atheistic camp.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man. With the proof now in place, cosmologists can no longer hide behind the possibility of a past-eternal universe. There is no escape, they have to face the problem of a cosmic beginning.