[BelieverInGod]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

Yes, I know. However, it's my belief, like religion is your belief, that it doesn't really effect me on what I've just done because it's a forum, therefore, I did it. Secondly, yes, you are mormons because of your low intelligence in science.

Once again, we're not Mormons. Not sure why you're so convinced we're Mormons, but we're not.

As for saying we're Mormons because of low intelligence in science. You may want to look at this list...

Henry Eyring
Harvey Fletcher
Steve Jones
Dr. John S. Lewis
Joseph F. Merrill
Richard G. Scott
Kip Thorn
Dr. Norman Tolk

All Mormons, and all know a lot more about sickular physics than you ever will.

So do you want to stop lying?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

Something tells me this guy isn't a real physicist but thinks we don't know enough of the lies they tell in public schools to tell the difference between an angry kid who has read a few text books and a major league fabricator of lies about reality.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

Something tells me this guy isn't a real physicist but thinks we don't know enough of the lies they tell in public schools to tell the difference between an angry kid who has read a few text books and a major league fabricator of lies about reality.

You think he's read text books? I think Sister Etheldreda is right, he's just watched Star Wars and thinks he knows it all.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

God isn't real

+ various other posts. The Fry quote was presented in a debate against Ann Widdecombe and Archbishop Onaiyekan concerning whether the catholic church was a force for good, which we have explained on numerous occasions: it is not; he was supported by Christopher Hitchens (since terminated by God).

With 4 such outstanding crackpots arguing over whether a circle is square or triangular it is hardly surprising that the audience became jaded so thoroughly tossing out the whole kaboodle with their final vote—not that studio audiences are any sort of yardstick of course but the big point here (which seems to have escaped your notice) is that we are NOT CATHOLICS.

There are some subtle hints around the site, such as at the top of every page:

Landover Baptist Church

Perhaps you didn't notice?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

Serious question... who wrote the bible?

GOD WROTE THE BIBLE!

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

I see the so called Doctor has vanished.

Typical atheist drive by poster.

YIC

[Missionary in Sweden]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

Oh, yes, utterly convincing. Oh, so convincing, a badly made video with text flashing one person's opinion. If you accept such as proof, then give me a bit of time and I'll show you 'proof' that the president's wife is actually a baboon. (It's already been proven many a time that he himself bears a close resemblance to our apelike ancestors).

Hey, we don't take kindly to racists here. Just because Obama's wife is a spearchucker doesn't make her a baboon. I'm aware they look vaguely the same. But that's no reason to be a racist.

We should have compassion for those who were unlucky enough not to be born being of God's preferred race.

NO TO RACISM!

[John the Monkey Worshiper]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

GOD WROTE THE BIBLE!

and how did we get it?

[Marshall]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

Today I had a doctors appointment at 2:00 downtown. Standard things like temperature taking and whatnot. I left my farm at 1:30 late from having lost my keys the night before while conducting a Bible study with a few of the darker farmhands, the paperbag test proves shade is proportionate to Godliness and these boys NEEDED a stiff shot of Jesus. Apparently the keys were under the bed and by the time I found them I was already running 10 minutes late.
I decided on the Plymouth because its fast and automatic so I figured Id have an easier time in traffic if I didnt have to change gears every 15 seconds. No sooner had I pulled out of the driveway then I was doing in excess of 100mph! My car ran better than its ever ran and I made the 45 minute trip in less than 20. I truly believe Jesus was my copilot as I coasted without slowing through every stoplight and intersection without missing a beat! It seemed nothing could slow me down! I did see that Satan had noticed I was in Gods favor and he tried to KILL ME. A car in an intersection I had just gone through narrowly missed me and flipped into the woods, luckily I wasn't fooled by the Devils attempt to make me miss my appointment and I didnt even slow down. Jesus is my Saviour and my best friend for getting me to my colonoscopy on time. Praise Jesus!

[{Anna}]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

One qvestion abaut this
Exodus 20:3
"Thou shall have no other gods before me"
Frist is the absence of any insistence on monotheism here
God does not declare that he is the only god in existence
but on the contrary, the words presume the existence of other gods
and insist that they should not be worshipped
and in beginning Hebrews believed in many Gods
but worship one

Why?
Becoze it not say
“Thou shall have no other gods”
or anything similar
It says
"Thou shall have no other gods before me"

Exodus 20:5
"Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God"
If he is one and only all powerful God
to whom is he jealous to?

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

One qvestion abaut this
Exodus 20:3
"Thou shall have no other gods before me"
Frist is the absence of any insistence on monotheism here
God does not declare that he is the only god in existence
but on the contrary, the words presume the existence of other gods
and insist that they should not be worshipped
and in beginning Hebrews believed in many Gods
but worship one

Why?
Becoze it not say
“Thou shall have no other gods”
or anything similar
It says
"Thou shall have no other gods before me"

Exodus 20:5
"Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God"
If he is one and only all powerful God
to whom is he jealous to?

I noticed you have eurotrash connections, perhaps like Jean Paul Gaultier or Vivienne Westwood you incline towards leather kilts and deconstructed bustles? or even both at the same time nothing would surprise me which is why I think you'll understand what I'm going to say.

Imagine you have a boyfriend |significant other| and you've become suspicious he |she or it| is out slutting as is the heathen way.

Hosea 1
2bii whoredoms and children of whoredoms:
2ci for the land hath committed great whoredom
KJV

You follow your suspicions up with some surveillance. Wriggling along through the undergrowth at night wearing infrared goggles and a purple latex onesie you are able to conceal yourself effectively as the object of your desires scurries furtively into the forest. So far then you are more or less indistinguishable from other eurotrashians but consider the horror, thrill of dark despair when you adjust your goggles, zoom in on the disrobing procedure and there is your belovèd entwined in love's embrace |at it with an obelisk|.

You would be devastated.

The obelisk is not alive, has not stolen anything from you, is altogether a passive agent in the matter. No two tails test is needed to determine the guilt |even greater lustful insanity than normally pertains in Europa| of your partner EVEN THOUGH THE OBELISK IS INERT. God is like that. He spells it out here:

Isaiah 44
13 The carpenter stretcheth out his rule; he marketh it out with a line; he fitteth it with planes, and he marketh it out with the compass, and maketh it after the figure of a man, according to the beauty of a man; that it may remain in the house.
14 He heweth him down cedars, and taketh the cypress and the oak, which he strengtheneth for himself among the trees of the forest: he planteth an ash, and the rain doth nourish it.
15 Then shall it be for a man to burn: for he will take thereof, and warm himself; yea, he kindleth it, and baketh bread; yea, he maketh a god, and worshippeth it; he maketh it a graven image, and falleth down thereto.
16 He burneth part thereof in the fire; with part thereof he eateth flesh; he roasteth roast, and is satisfied: yea, he warmeth himself, and saith, Aha, I am warm, I have seen the fire:
17 And the residue thereof he maketh a god, even his graven image: he falleth down unto it, and worshippeth it, and prayeth unto it, and saith, Deliver me; for thou art my god.
KJV

The whole point of that passage needs no explanation, and I will intrude none. The false god is an inert object, it is not alive, it can do nothing. From the very outset its existence derives from the diseased imagination of the heathen wretch who needed to manufacture the thing. The phantasm it represents is only real in the sense that the psychiatric condition of the idolator is real.

It would be the same with your boyfriend |current delusional obsession| and that obelisk. You could not feel jealousy to the monstrosity erected there in the forest all those years ago (probably by druids), the hand that mocked it nor the heart that fed. You would be jealous of your boyf.

There is a God shaped space in each of us which only God can fill. Anything we put in there becomes a god for us whether it has objective actuality (such as eel worshippers may experience: the eel is alive) or not (obelisks regardless of size, and these days many miniature obelisks are manufactured in a variety of materials many of then clockwork or even electric they may feel like they're alive but they're not: just another phantasm).

Returning to Hosea then we understand God's Clear Message:

Hosea 1,2
1:2 The beginning of the word of the LORD by Hosea. And the LORD said to Hosea, Go, take unto thee a wife of whoredoms and children of whoredoms: for the land hath committed great whoredom, departing from the LORD.
2:2 Plead with your mother, plead: for she is not my wife, neither am I her husband: let her therefore put away her whoredoms out of her sight, and her adulteries from between her breasts;
3 Lest I strip her naked, and set her as in the day that she was born, and make her as a wilderness, and set her like a dry land, and slay her with thirst.
4 And I will not have mercy upon her children; for they be the children of whoredoms.
5 For their mother hath played the harlot: she that conceived them hath done shamefully: for she said, I will go after my lovers, that give me my bread and my water, my wool and my flax, mine oil and my drink.
6 Therefore, behold, I will hedge up thy way with thorns, and make a wall, that she shall not find her paths.
7a And she shall follow after her lovers,
KJV

This inert object is one of them

I don't any imagination is necessary, do you?

[{Anna}]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

I noticed you have eurotrash connections, perhaps like Jean Paul Gaultier or Vivienne Westwood you incline towards leather kilts and deconstructed bustles? or even both at the same time nothing would surprise me which is why I think you'll understand what I'm going to say.

Imagine you have a boyfriend |significant other| and you've become suspicious he |she or it| is out slutting as is the heathen way.

Hosea 1
2bii whoredoms and children of whoredoms:
2ci for the land hath committed great whoredom
KJV

You follow your suspicions up with some surveillance. Wriggling along through the undergrowth at night wearing infrared goggles and a purple latex onesie you are able to conceal yourself effectively as the object of your desires scurries furtively into the forest. So far then you are more or less indistinguishable from other eurotrashians but consider the horror, thrill of dark despair when you adjust your goggles, zoom in on the disrobing procedure and there is your belovèd entwined in love's embrace |at it with an obelisk|.

You would be devastated.

The obelisk is not alive, has not stolen anything from you, is altogether a passive agent in the matter. No two tails test is needed to determine the guilt |even greater lustful insanity than normally pertains in Europa| of your partner EVEN THOUGH THE OBELISK IS INERT. God is like that. He spells it out here:

Isaiah 44
13 The carpenter stretcheth out his rule; he marketh it out with a line; he fitteth it with planes, and he marketh it out with the compass, and maketh it after the figure of a man, according to the beauty of a man; that it may remain in the house.
14 He heweth him down cedars, and taketh the cypress and the oak, which he strengtheneth for himself among the trees of the forest: he planteth an ash, and the rain doth nourish it.
15 Then shall it be for a man to burn: for he will take thereof, and warm himself; yea, he kindleth it, and baketh bread; yea, he maketh a god, and worshippeth it; he maketh it a graven image, and falleth down thereto.
16 He burneth part thereof in the fire; with part thereof he eateth flesh; he roasteth roast, and is satisfied: yea, he warmeth himself, and saith, Aha, I am warm, I have seen the fire:
17 And the residue thereof he maketh a god, even his graven image: he falleth down unto it, and worshippeth it, and prayeth unto it, and saith, Deliver me; for thou art my god.
KJV

The whole point of that passage needs no explanation, and I will intrude none. The false god is an inert object, it is not alive, it can do nothing. From the very outset its existence derives from the diseased imagination of the heathen wretch who needed to manufacture the thing. The phantasm it represents is only real in the sense that the psychiatric condition of the idolator is real.

It would be the same with your boyfriend |current delusional obsession| and that obelisk. You could not feel jealousy to the monstrosity erected there in the forest all those years ago (probably by druids), the hand that mocked it nor the heart that fed. You would be jealous of your boyf.

There is a God shaped space in each of us which only God can fill. Anything we put in there becomes a god for us whether it has objective actuality (such as eel worshippers may experience: the eel is alive) or not (obelisks regardless of size, and these days many miniature obelisks are manufactured in a variety of materials many of then clockwork or even electric they may feel like they're alive but they're not: just another phantasm).

Returning to Hosea then we understand God's Clear Message:

Hosea 1,2
1:2 The beginning of the word of the LORD by Hosea. And the LORD said to Hosea, Go, take unto thee a wife of whoredoms and children of whoredoms: for the land hath committed great whoredom, departing from the LORD.
2:2 Plead with your mother, plead: for she is not my wife, neither am I her husband: let her therefore put away her whoredoms out of her sight, and her adulteries from between her breasts;
3 Lest I strip her naked, and set her as in the day that she was born, and make her as a wilderness, and set her like a dry land, and slay her with thirst.
4 And I will not have mercy upon her children; for they be the children of whoredoms.
5 For their mother hath played the harlot: she that conceived them hath done shamefully: for she said, I will go after my lovers, that give me my bread and my water, my wool and my flax, mine oil and my drink.
6 Therefore, behold, I will hedge up thy way with thorns, and make a wall, that she shall not find her paths.
7a And she shall follow after her lovers,
KJV

This inert object is one of them

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I don't any imagination is necessary, do you?

I asked your opinion on First commandment and my interpretacion
Whay it say
Exodus 20:3
"Thou shall have no other gods before me"
and not simply
“Thou shall have no other gods”
and to to whom your all powerful God is he jealous to?

not about Gods and statues-I knew your opinion on that

[MitzaLizalor]

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I asked your opinion

I don't have "opinions" but am happy to quote Scripture with context as appropriate so as to avoid accusations of cherry picking.

The context of "other gods" is given in The Bible. God explains how false gods are false, how they have themselves to be made by some metalworker (or woodworker or potter) like this:

Habakkuk 2
18 What profiteth the graven image that the maker thereof hath graven it; the molten image, and a teacher of lies, that the maker of his work trusteth therein, to make dumb idols?
19 Woe unto him that saith to the wood, Awake; to the dumb stone, Arise, it shall teach! Behold, it is laid over with gold and silver, and there is no breath at all in the midst of it.
KJV

They are incapable of doing anything at all let alone create the whole world including the very metal and wood they're crafted from.
God is particularly clear that anyone who considers the merits of any idol or other false god (such as planets or the anogenital area) is exactly the same as a prostitute. As far as God is concerned reading your horoscope and hanging around down the docks in a spandex miniskirt when the fleet is in at midnight are not two activities, they are the same activity and you might just as well eat live babies. He is very clear on this point.

Eventually the Israelites got the idea.

Lamentations 5
22 But thou hast utterly rejected us; thou art very wroth against us.
KJV

Why are you having such difficulty with the concept?

[{Anna}]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

So you think religion that your parents that you
is only true religion out of thousands upon thousands
through history?
What a coincidence

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

So you think religion that your parents that you
is only true religion out of thousands upon thousands
through history?
What a coincidence

But if God is actually real the probability is 1.

It does not matter how many other potential states of existence there are, if God is real there is a zero probability of Him not being real.

YIC