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Gabriel Reproba 01-31-2011 11:22 PM

Do You Love Your Wife Enough To Beat Her? This Pastor Does!
 
Let's get one thing out of the way right off the cricket bat: Stephen Green is a Brit. But, as we know, there CAN be pockets of True Christianity™ all over the Earth, no matter how Godless their surroundings may be.

Now to the meat of the matter: Stephen Green is a True Christian™ Pastor in every way. I am bringing this up because the media is once again trying to attack a Pastor because he ACTUALLY practices what is in the Bible. Specifically, he beats his wife when she strays from the Bible. From the story about his ungrateful wife:

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Caroline Green was often punished by her husband Stephen for failing to be a dutiful, compliant wife, but his final act of violence against her — the one that prompted her long-overdue decision to divorce him — was all the more chilling because it was coldly premeditated.Stephen Green wrote a list of his wife’s failings then described the weapon he would make to beat her with.

‘He told me he’d make a piece of wood into a sort of witch’s broom and hit me with it, which he did,’ she recalls, her voice tentative and quiet. ‘He hit me until I bled. I was terrified. I can still remember the pain.
Wait... They are saying that because he took time out of his precious schedule to document all of her transgression and describe to her what his plans were so she would have time to beg for forgiveness from Baby Jesus is "chilling?" The only thing that is chilling here is the fact that I still get chills when I read this. I can only pray that I can one day teach everyone in the world what this man is really all about. The FACT that the LIEberal media is chastising him for this is for one reason alone: He is a Pastor:

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Green, 60, is founder and director of Christian Voice, a fundamentalist group he set up in 1994, whose website thunders against the vices — family breakdown, crime, immorality and drink among them — that are ruining the lives of ‘real people’. For example, after Hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans in 2005 and killed more than 1,600 people, he claimed it was a result of God’s wrath and had purified the city.

He routinely inveighs against the abolition of the death penalty, no-fault divorce, Islam, abortion and, his particular bête noir, homosexuality. Violent crime and rape, he laments on his website, have risen dramatically in the past 50 years, while he points out that ‘virtue is derided’.
That the media would try to SPIN this as a bad thing is is not surprising seeing as they are all pinko atheist God Mockers. But they obviously have not read the Bible. It teaches us the following (scriptural support follows):

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  • The husband is in authority over his household and has the right/responsibility to discipline his entire household, including the wife.
  • DD is "responsible authority," meaning that if the husband is to have authority then he must be able to take action and mete out consequence in a tangible form.
  • Discipline is a practical expression of love, a proactive way of helping a wife to grow and mature; motivating her to re-align her priorities so that she will not end up in mediocrity.
  • Discipline is expressed in loss of privileges, spanking, corner time, and writing appropriate sentences multiple times. DDers may include prayer, godly examples, and encouragement in their list of ways to discipline.

Scriptural Support:

LOVE your Husband and OBEY him:
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Titus 2:4-5 (King James Version)
4That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, 5To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
Do NOTHING to give the husband cause to discipline you:
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1 Timothy 5:14 (King James Version)
14I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully.
SUBMIT to your husband as if he were God:
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Ephesians 5:22 (King James Version)
22Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

Colossians 3:18 (King James Version)
18Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
Peter demonstrates that being a wife is like being a slave by reviewing various submissive relationships:

1. Slaves, I Pet.2:18-19, 20.
2. Christ, the pattern for both, I Pet.2:21, 23.
3. Wives, "in the same way", I Pet.3:1, 5-6

In this last piece of scripture, Pete says that wives should behave like slaves:
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1 Peter 3:1 (King James Version)
1Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
Also, do not be prudish in bed since NOTHING you do in bed is sinful:
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Hebrews 13:4 (King James Version)
4Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.
So as you can see, the Holy KJV Bible fully supports what this man has done. he even cared enough to use a ROD. While God does not tell us how to punish wives specifcially, he does proscribe a ROD be used in at least ONE form of domestic discipline:


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Proverbs 23:14 (King James Version)
14Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.
After all of the lessons he gave he in God's Loving Word, she still didn't get it. She describes her husband's love, all of which come straight from the scripture I have listed:
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‘Stephen listed my misdemeanours: I was disrespectful and disobedient; I wasn’t loving or submissive enough and I was undermining him. He also said I wasn’t giving him his *conjugal rights.

‘He even framed our marriage vows — he always put particular emphasis on my promise to obey him — and hung them over our bed. He believed there was no such thing as marital rape and for years I’d been reluctant to have sex with him, but he said it was my duty and was angry if I refused him.
The media is attacking him because they do not want him spreading the TRUTH about what Christianity is REALLY all about. This persecution is actually addressed in the Bible. A husband disciplining his wife must be prepared to be punished for doing the right thing, up to and including dying for it, just as Christ died for us:

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Ephesians 5:25-27 (King James Version)
25Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Isn't that beautiful? God so loves women that he commands their husbands to punish them even if the husband will be persecuted and punished, even killed, for doing so!

SHOUT GLORY AND PASS THE ROD!

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BelieverInGod 01-31-2011 11:44 PM

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Caroline Green was often punished by her husband Stephen for failing to be a dutiful, compliant wife, but his final act of violence against her — the one that prompted her long-overdue decision to divorce him — was all the more chilling because it was coldly premeditated.Stephen Green wrote a list of his wife’s failings then described the weapon he would make to beat her with.

‘He told me he’d make a piece of wood into a sort of witch’s broom and hit me with it, which he did,’ she recalls, her voice tentative and quiet. ‘He hit me until I bled. I was terrified. I can still remember the pain.
Really? A Christian Pastor said he was going to make a "witch's broom"? Why do I think the wife is a lying harlot. Oh, I noticed they couldn't be bothered to post the list of transgressions that she was guilty of. Of course not, in this femnazi world the woman is ALWAYS innocent :rolleyes:

I also noticed that nobody is telling his side of the story.

Gabriel Reproba 02-01-2011 02:01 AM

Re: Do You Love Your Wife Enough To Beat Her? This Pastor Does!
 
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Originally Posted by BelieverInGod (Post 686082)
I also noticed that nobody is telling his side of the story.

Nobody, that is, except us, the KJV Bible, and God! :thumbsup:

InvisiblePinkUnicorn 02-01-2011 02:38 PM

Re: Do You Love Your Wife Enough To Beat Her? This Pastor Does!
 
Could you please point out the part of the Bible where it says to hit your wife with a stick till she bleeds if she doesn't obey you? I know you found one that says hit your child, but I can't find one that say hit your wife. What did I miss?

Dave Smith 02-01-2011 08:29 PM

Re: Do You Love Your Wife Enough To Beat Her? This Pastor Does!
 
I beat my wife everyday. http://diablo.uk.to/1.jpg

Hank 02-01-2011 08:37 PM

Re: Do You Love Your Wife Enough To Beat Her? This Pastor Does!
 
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Originally Posted by InvisiblePinkUnicorn (Post 686509)
Could you please point out the part of the Bible where it says to hit your wife with a stick till she bleeds if she doesn't obey you? I know you found one that says hit your child, but I can't find one that say hit your wife. What did I miss?

I'll point you to the scripture when you can point me to the scripture that says we evolved from monkeys. :D

Bobby-Joe 02-01-2011 08:38 PM

Re: Do You Love Your Wife Enough To Beat Her? This Pastor Does!
 
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Originally Posted by InvisiblePinkUnicorn (Post 686509)
Could you please point out the part of the Bible where it says to hit your wife with a stick till she bleeds if she doesn't obey you? I know you found one that says hit your child, but I can't find one that say hit your wife. What did I miss?

If we showed you, you would just refuse to believe us like the good Atheist your are.

loveforchrist 02-01-2011 09:08 PM

Re: Do You Love Your Wife Enough To Beat Her? This Pastor Does!
 
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Originally Posted by InvisiblePinkUnicorn (Post 686509)
Could you please point out the part of the Bible where it says to hit your wife with a stick till she bleeds if she doesn't obey you? I know you found one that says hit your child, but I can't find one that say hit your wife. What did I miss?

Well, we know for a fact that God wants us to rule over our wives as can be plainly seen here:

1 Corinthians 11:3
1 Corinthians 11:7 - 9
1 Corinthians 14:34 - 35
Ephesians 5:22 - 25
Colossians 3:18
Romans 7:2
1 Peter 3:1 -3
Genesis 3:16

And one can only assume that in LOVING your wife and correctly ruling over her, you must CORRECT her from time to time!

Last night my wife made dinner (as always) but forgot to clean the dishes afterwards. I woke up this morning and the sink was full of dirty dishes. I "corrected" her with the back of my hand, and rest assured she won't make the same mistake again. What is wrong with that?

WinnerNotSinner 02-01-2011 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by loveforchrist (Post 686703)
Last night my wife made dinner (as always) but forgot to clean the dishes afterwards. I woke up this morning and the sink was full of dirty dishes. I "corrected" her with the back of my hand, and rest assured she won't make the same mistake again. What is wrong with that?

Absolutely nothing. There is nothing wrong with "constructive criticism" for when they inevitably mess something up.

Gabriel Reproba 02-01-2011 11:31 PM

Re: Do You Love Your Wife Enough To Beat Her? This Pastor Does!
 
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Originally Posted by InvisiblePinkUnicorn (Post 686509)
Could you please point out the part of the Bible where it says to hit your wife with a stick till she bleeds if she doesn't obey you? I know you found one that says hit your child, but I can't find one that say hit your wife. What did I miss?

Did you even read my post? Focus on the part where Peter says wives should be like slaves. Now what does the Bible say about slaves? You may beat them:

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Exodus 21:20-21 (King James Version)
20And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. 21Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money.
Re-read what Peter said. Slaves obey your masters. We are slaves to God. Wives are slaves to their husbands. See how simple God's Laws really are? Just think of everything like slavery and all will become clear.

Littlelady 03-15-2011 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Smith (Post 686680)
I beat my wife everyday. http://diablo.uk.to/1.jpg

Ah. So you're just a <vile profanity removed> coward. I hope your wife wakes up one day and runs before you kill her with your "love."

Yes, Yes, make fun of my picture, realize your people GOD made me this way. Making fun of God's creation, isn't that a sin? Freak.

Daisy Mae Johnson 03-15-2011 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Littlelady (Post 711577)
Ah. So you're just a <vile profanity removed> coward. I hope your wife wakes up one day and runs before you kill her with your "love."

Yes, Yes, make fun of my picture, realize your people GOD made me this way. Making fun of God's creation, isn't that a sin? Freak.


Listen you evil little freak. I will not tolerate you spewing your hatred here on GOD'S Favorite Forum. :angry:

You don't see US barging into YOUR disguting midgets and sexual perverts forum and insulting YOU now do you?

Enjoy HELL freakatard.

Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson 03-15-2011 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Littlelady (Post 711577)
Ah. So you're just a <vile profanity removed> coward. I hope your wife wakes up one day and runs before you kill her with your "love."

Yes, Yes, make fun of my picture, realize your people GOD made me this way. Making fun of God's creation, isn't that a sin? Freak.

Show me the chapter and verse from the holy Bible that says any such thing, trollop.

Littlelady 03-15-2011 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Daisy Mae Johnson (Post 711589)
Listen you evil little freak. I will not tolerate you spewing your hatred here on GOD'S Favorite Forum. :angry:

You don't see US barging into YOUR disguting midgets and sexual perverts forum and insulting YOU now do you?

Enjoy HELL freakatard.


Daisy? I chose this picture from my collection. My girlfriend took it, but you can't see the sexy ones!

So, your people are being insulting. Oh why do you bring up sexual perversion? I didn't. Interesting obsession you all have with sex. And I do not take back my remarks about men who beat their wives. They are cowards. And someday, you will realize this. You don't seem very Christian with your nastiness. I truly hope your husband/boyfriend/fiance/owner doesn't beat you. That's why I lick girls.

Pastor Ezekiel 03-16-2011 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Littlelady (Post 711602)
Daisy? I chose this picture from my collection. My girlfriend took it, but you can't see the sexy ones!

So, your people are being insulting. Oh why do you bring up sexual perversion? I didn't. Interesting obsession you all have with sex. And I do not take back my remarks about men who beat their wives. They are cowards. And someday, you will realize this. You don't seem very Christian with your nastiness. I truly hope your husband/boyfriend/fiance/owner doesn't beat you. That's why I lick girls.

You are truly repulsive, and Jesus is going to send you to hell and I can't wait to watch you get yours, cripple. A miget lezbean. What will satan throw at us next? :angry:

loveis.. 03-16-2011 06:59 AM

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I understand the whole thing about keeping your wife inline but there is no need of violence. the woman was created from man and man created by god yes there is an order, i must of over looked it, but i read where it did say a man was suppose to keep his wife inline but nowhere did i read he was suppose to beat her until she was crippled or bleeding. my father and my grandfather were both christian men but never did i see them hit my mother or grandmother. I was taught in my christian household that the man is the provider protector and leader of the home, while the woman provides for the mans needs and takes care of the household... There is no need for violence.

Gabriel Reproba 03-16-2011 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by loveis.. (Post 712171)
...but nowhere did i read he was suppose to beat her until she was crippled or bleeding.

I am glad you agree that Men are 100% superior to women. There is hope for you, yet!

Do you agree that women should not hold jobs and that they should not be allowed to vote or teach men?

As for the sanctioning of corporal punishment, did you read the Scripture I laid out in the original post? If so, you should also be familiar with the rules about beating your children and your slaves, yes?

Religion15kanzer 03-18-2011 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank (Post 686685)
I'll point you to the scripture when you can point me to the scripture that says we evolved from monkeys. :D

Answer the question! If there's one thing christians are good at, it is dodging a question that they do not know the answer.
Furthermore, there are no bible quotes on evolution because the bible knows nothing on the topic, but instead prefers children's fairytales..and rape:wub:

Wide-Open 03-18-2011 12:56 PM

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Joe, why exactly are you here? Try to control your natural tendency to be cruel, OK? We are God-fearing Christians, and we REALLY don't want to hear lies about the Holy Bible. Jesus weeps! :(

TruDisciple 02-03-2014 05:02 PM

Re: Do You Love Your Wife Enough To Beat Her? This Pastor Does!
 
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Originally Posted by Gabriel Reproba (Post 686070)
Isn't that beautiful? God so loves women that he commands their husbands to punish them even if the husband will be persecuted and punished, even killed, for doing so!

SHOUT GLORY AND PASS THE ROD!

Your handling of scripture is not only laughable but blasphemous. Absolutely wretched how you molested Ephesians 5:25 to say a husband should beat his wife even if the authorities come after him. Fool, in those days in that culture ALL MEN regardless of faith beat their wives and no one gave a damn! Christ showed us we were wrong and we see His shining example of gentleness and compassion with PROSTITUTES. Husbands are, like Christ, to DIE TO SELF, at times giving up things out of love for our wives as Christ gave up life out of love for His church! How do you not see that?

Oh, right... because you are a misogynistic woman-hater. And you pervert God's Word to justify yourself. Repent now because "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also", and your misguided understanding of the Word has led you into a false faith and thus, false works (or at the very least, proposition of beating your wife). Thin ice, friend.

As well, your mishandling of Hebrews 14:3 to justify forcing your wife into any sexual act is disgusting and defies the very heart of God. Anything that is unnatural, unhealthy, unsanitary, uncomfortable, undesirable, is thus UNLOVING. Regardless of whether both parties wish to partake in a certain act, it may still be something God would consider an abomination which he never intended our bodies for. "Wives submit to your husbands" in conjunction with the already mentioned 'husbands, dying to self for their wives" means a healthy sexual relationship of give and take. Forcing someone into a sexual act proves you are devoid of love. "He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love" 1 John 4:8

Lastly, we are not GOD, and the wife's submission to her husband as unto God means that she is to trust God and submit, understanding that He is sovereign and in control. Therefore, the husband should be right with God AND HAVE A RIGHT UNDERSTANDING OF HIS WORD, so that HE IS WALKING IN STEP WITH THE SPIRIT and making wise, holy choices. Doubtfully something you understand or do. Thus her submission to her husband is akin to submitting to God. In the event that her husband is unwise, if her council (Gen 2:18, she is a helpmeet) is not agreed upon, she trusts that the Lord will guide the circumstances around that of her husbands foolish decisions, OR correct HIM.

The discipline talked about is that of "WASHING IN THE WORD" meaning studying the bible correctly with her so the Holy Spirit can work in her life. Obviously something you can not be trusted to do. Do I ever pity your wife and your daughters and any other woman you come into contact with...

Shame on you. I pray you appreciate this rebuke from a godly, discerning man, who is faithful to the LORD and His Word.

Note: You may wish to read Ezekiel 36:26 and John 3:3.... Hell is an awful place and you won't get their with a stone-cold, unregenerate heart. Read 1 John 5, if you are not too obstinate and proud.


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