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I'mAbeliever 03-26-2010 09:19 PM

How can you say you KNOW god exists?
 
Answer me please. Religion is faith. Baptists are religious. Faith is something you believe in, but cannot prove, therefore I ask you how you can say you've found "proof" that god exists.

Also, I must say I laughed out very, very loud when I saw that youtube-video that "proved" gods existance. Awesome logic: God created the bible, the bible says God exists, ergo he exists. That must be the lamest circular argumentation I've read so far.

And please try to be objective and answer me on everything I wrote or don't answer me at all.

Wide-Open 03-26-2010 09:21 PM

Re: How can you say you KNOW god exists?
 
Any other requirements? Do you have a rider? Blue Smarties only? :huh:

Brother Enoch 03-26-2010 09:25 PM

Re: How can you say you KNOW god exists?
 
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Originally Posted by I'mAbeliever (Post 493215)
How can you say you KNOW god exists?


How can you say you KNOW God doesn't exist?

Bobby-Joe 03-26-2010 09:31 PM

Re: How can you say you KNOW god exists?
 
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Originally Posted by I'mAbeliever (Post 493215)
Answer me please. Religion is faith. Baptists are religious. Faith is something you believe in, but cannot prove, therefore I ask you how you can say you've found "proof" that god exists.

Also, I must say I laughed out very, very loud when I saw that youtube-video that "proved" gods existance. Awesome logic: God created the bible, the bible says God exists, ergo he exists. That must be the lamest circular argumentation I've read so far.

And please try to be objective and answer me on everything I wrote or don't answer me at all.

The cucumber. The only logical explanation for the existence of cucumbers is if God exists.

Consider
  • Cucumbers are suitable for ramming up your backside
  • There is natural reason for a plant evolve to be suitable for being rammed up a backside
  • God is obsessed with what is rammed up people's backside and constantly tests for backside ramming.
Therefore God exists.

BelieverInGod 03-26-2010 09:44 PM

Re: How can you say you KNOW god exists?
 
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Originally Posted by Bobby-Joe (Post 493220)
The cucumber. The only logical explanation for the existence of cucumbers is if God exists.

Consider
  • Cucumbers are suitable for ramming up your backside
  • There is natural reason for a plant evolve to be suitable for being rammed up a backside
  • God is obsessed with what is rammed up people's backside and constantly tests for backside ramming.
Therefore God exists.

BROTHER

Have you been taken over by demons? :fear2:

I'mAbeliever 03-26-2010 09:47 PM

Re: How can you say you KNOW god exists?
 
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Originally Posted by Wide-Open (Post 493216)
Any other requirements? Do you have a rider? Blue Smarties only? :huh:

I don't know what you've smoked, but that didn't make any sense - try again.

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Originally Posted by Brother Enoch (Post 493217)
How can you say you KNOW God doesn't exist?

What a cheap trick - I hope your intelligence doesn't reflect the rest of the people in this cult :)

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Originally Posted by Bobby-Joe (Post 493220)
The cucumber. The only logical explanation for the existence of cucumbers is if God exists.

Consider
  • Cucumbers are suitable for ramming up your backside
  • There is natural reason for a plant evolve to be suitable for being rammed up a backside
  • God is obsessed with what is rammed up people's backside and constantly tests for backside ramming.
Therefore God exists.

You're basing your belief on a vegetable?

Brother Enoch 03-26-2010 09:49 PM

Re: How can you say you KNOW god exists?
 
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Originally Posted by BelieverInGod (Post 493228)
BROTHER

Have you been taken over by demons? :fear2:

I'm a little confused too. :shok:

Of course, Brother Bobby-Joe is an intellectual giant compared to me, so maybe he's employing irony or sarcasm or some other literary tool beyond my simple grasp. That's probably it. :)

Bobby-Joe 03-26-2010 09:56 PM

Re: How can you say you KNOW god exists?
 
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Originally Posted by I'mAbeliever (Post 493231)
You're basing your belief on a vegetable?

Don't be tedious; you wanted proof of something only God could create so I am provided one. You want to quit filibustering and deal with my point?

Face it, you can't explain cucumbers without God. Therefor God has to exist.

Ezekiel Bathfire 03-26-2010 09:56 PM

Re: How can you say you KNOW god exists?
 
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Originally Posted by I'mAbeliever (Post 493215)
[...]And please try to be objective

I consider this to be patronizing
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and answer me on everything I wrote
This is a petulant and immature demand
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or don't answer me at all.
Were you crying and stamping your feet when you wrote that?

You see, son, when you grow up, you'll realize that you don't have all the answer. Heck! You don't even have the questions!

You are going to argue against us and make us do all the work. We don't need to do the work; we have done it.

You need to question your own beliefs . I take it you are one of those young boys who puts his faith, not in God, but in science so-called.

Yet, if you do, you will believe that nothing is certain, and all is merely probable. No answers there then, are there?

The earth has been around for over 6,000 years and so far it has been pretty certain and no probabilities involved. That's because God's in charge.

Now, tell us why you are a vile, God-Hating atheist devoid of all morals and scruples...

Carry on, I'm listening.

Brother Enoch 03-26-2010 10:04 PM

Re: How can you say you KNOW god exists?
 
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Originally Posted by I'mAbeliever (Post 493231)
What a cheap trick - I hope your intelligence doesn't reflect the rest of the people in this cult :)

So, no answer then? Just a cheap insult?

Quelle surprise! :lol:

I'mAbeliever 03-26-2010 10:10 PM

Re: How can you say you KNOW god exists?
 
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Originally Posted by Bobby-Joe (Post 493241)
Don't be tedious; you wanted proof of something only God could create so I am provided one. You want to quit filibustering and deal with my point?

Face it, you can't explain cucumbers without God. Therefor God has to exist.

Then I can say if God existed, he'd make the apple bigger. Therefore, he cannot exist. It's exactly the same.

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Originally Posted by Ezekiel Bathfire (Post 493242)
You see, son, when you grow up, you'll realize that you don't have all the answer. Heck! You don't even have the questions!

1st off, what a cheap technique: "son", "when you grow up". Cut the crap, will you?
I'm aware that I don't have answers, the difference is that I don't turn to a higher power for meaning.

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You are going to argue against us and make us do all the work. We don't need to do the work; we have done it.
What you have done is to believe in a two thousand years old book.

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You need to question your own beliefs . I take it you are one of those young boys who puts his faith, not in God, but in science so-called.
I believe there is no such thing as a supernatural thing that created everything and is watching everything everyone does, for all eternity. I believe in facts, for example: the earth is more than 6000 years old.

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Yet, if you do, you will believe that nothing is certain, and all is merely probable. No answers there then, are there?
I think it's better to move forward and make research instead of just believing in an old book and live on forever believing that.

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The earth has been around for over 6,000 years and so far it has been pretty certain and no probabilities involved. That's because God's in charge.
If you really believe the world is around 6000 years old then I feel sorry for you - but luckily you're a dying race.

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Now, tell us why you are a vile, God-Hating atheist devoid of all morals and scruples...
Are you implying moral is trademarked religion? It sure seems so.[/QUOTE]

SUV 03-26-2010 10:12 PM

Re: How can you say you KNOW god exists?
 
How dare you bring Monkees songs onto our Godly Board! Are you some kind of evilutionist? :angry:

I'mAbeliever 03-26-2010 10:13 PM

Re: How can you say you KNOW god exists?
 
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Originally Posted by Brother Enoch (Post 493250)
So, no answer then? Just a cheap insult?

Quelle surprise! :lol:

If you read my original post, I asked how you can say that you have proof that God exists. The burden of proof is on you, not me. I cannot prove that he doesn't exist, nor have I said I have proof he doesn't.

Bobby-Joe 03-26-2010 10:24 PM

Re: How can you say you KNOW god exists?
 
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Originally Posted by I'mAbeliever (Post 493256)
Then I can say if God existed, he'd make the apple bigger. Therefore, he cannot exist. It's exactly the same.

No it is not. You are being a coward here friend. Unless you can provided a naturalistic process for a vegetable to become suitable for sodomizing a human rectal cavity you have no choice but to accept God exists. The only force, natural or supernatural, ever described that has any interest in what human's stick in their rectal cavity is the God of the Bible.

I'mAbeliever 03-26-2010 10:31 PM

Re: How can you say you KNOW god exists?
 
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Originally Posted by Bobby-Joe (Post 493268)
No it is not. You are being a coward here friend. Unless you can provided a naturalistic process for a vegetable to become suitable for sodomizing a human rectal cavity you have no choice but to accept God exists. The only force, natural or supernatural, ever described that has any interest in what human's stick in their rectal cavity is the God of the Bible.

You're taking the easy way out - trusting a supernatural being to have created everything so you don't have to think about it. I'm not a biologist - and neither do I have to be one - to say I do not believe in god.

Good night now, will probably forget all about this forum - and luckily you're just a small cult and will hopefully die out soon. /common sense out. Even """normal""" Christians aren't as extreme as you. I'm literally laughing out loud here, although at the same time it's a bit sad.

Bobby-Joe 03-26-2010 10:38 PM

Re: How can you say you KNOW god exists?
 
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Originally Posted by I'mAbeliever (Post 493276)
You're taking the easy way out - trusting a supernatural being to have created everything so you don't have to think about it. I'm not a biologist - and neither do I have to be one - to say I do not believe in god.

COWARD

Atheists have said they would become believers or at lest agnostics if we Theists were to show you just the shadow of the hemline of the robes of God. I just did just that. Now if you can't provide a naturalistic explanation of anally insertable cucumbers then logically there had to be a supernatural one.

Face it, I have you stuck on this cucumber dilemma.

Brother Enoch 03-26-2010 10:54 PM

Re: How can you say you KNOW god exists?
 
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Originally Posted by I'mAbeliever (Post 493260)
If you read my original post, I asked how you can say that you have proof that God exists. The burden of proof is on you, not me.

Because you say so? You started this thread. In doing so you implied God does not exist, the burden of proof is on YOU. I made no claims at all, how can the burden of proof be on me? :dunce:

You're not very good at this, are you? :)

James Hutchins 03-26-2010 11:02 PM

Re: How can you say you KNOW god exists?
 
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Originally Posted by I'mAbeliever (Post 493215)
Answer me please. Religion is faith. Baptists are religious. Faith is something you believe in, but cannot prove, therefore I ask you how you can say you've found "proof" that god exists.

Also, I must say I laughed out very, very loud when I saw that youtube-video that "proved" gods existance. Awesome logic: God created the bible, the bible says God exists, ergo he exists. That must be the lamest circular argumentation I've read so far.

And please try to be objective and answer me on everything I wrote or don't answer me at all.

Try the reverse logic. You do not have faith, therefore God does not exist. Just as hollow, isn't it? So we can say, either e does or does not, based on your logic and the logic I presented, right friend? We need something to sway the voter as it were. Ah, we have the Bible. The Bible does state God exists. So that makes it two for God, one against. Then we have the billions of believers. That makes billions plus 2 to your one. We can try to add atheists but they are a wide group. Not all atheists say God does not exist, they state that either they choose not to follow Him or they do not believe. I figure they end up being a wash. So we are down to a billion plus two to your one.:thumbsup:


Check and mate, my friend.

Would you like to play again? This questions is like checkers and God always gets to go first.:innocent:

I'mAbeliever 03-27-2010 11:12 AM

Re: How can you say you KNOW god exists?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby-Joe (Post 493282)
COWARD

Atheists have said they would become believers or at lest agnostics if we Theists were to show you just the shadow of the hemline of the robes of God. I just did just that. Now if you can't provide a naturalistic explanation of anally insertable cucumbers then logically there had to be a supernatural one.

Face it, I have you stuck on this cucumber dilemma.

You have stuck me on an irrelevant dilemma - you think it's God, I don't know what it is, but I choose to believe everything happens naturally and most things are up to chance.

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Originally Posted by Brother Enoch (Post 493301)
Because you say so? You started this thread. In doing so you implied God does not exist, the burden of proof is on YOU. I made no claims at all, how can the burden of proof be on me? :dunce:

You're not very good at this, are you? :)

I started this thread asking how you (not you as in you personally, but you as in you people (I assume you understood that)) can say you know god exists. I never said he doesn't, so the burden of proof does not lie on me.

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Originally Posted by James Hutchins (Post 493315)
Try the reverse logic. You do not have faith, therefore God does not exist. Just as hollow, isn't it? So we can say, either e does or does not, based on your logic and the logic I presented, right friend? We need something to sway the voter as it were. Ah, we have the Bible. The Bible does state God exists. So that makes it two for God, one against. Then we have the billions of believers. That makes billions plus 2 to your one. We can try to add atheists but they are a wide group. Not all atheists say God does not exist, they state that either they choose not to follow Him or they do not believe. I figure they end up being a wash. So we are down to a billion plus two to your one.:thumbsup:


Check and mate, my friend.

Would you like to play again? This questions is like checkers and God always gets to go first.:innocent:

Wow, that's some advanced logic there. A billion people believes it, so it must be true. In the past, people thought the world was flat. Does that make it true?

I love your argumentation, guys: God exists, God is always right, I rest my case, period.

GOD=life 03-27-2010 11:27 AM

Re: How can you say you KNOW god exists?
 
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Originally Posted by I'mAbeliever (Post 493231)
What a cheap trick - I hope your intelligence doesn't reflect the rest of the people in this cult

That's dodging the question, friend. We're used to being persecuted by intolerant people, so insulting our considerable intelligence won't faze us.

Again: how do YOU know God does NOT exist? Where does everything come from then? I gigantic explosion? Suuuuuure.

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Originally Posted by I'mAbeliever (Post 493256)
What you have done is to believe in a two thousand years old book.

Which is, of course, very "silly" compared to believing in a billions year old universe.

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Originally Posted by I'mAbeliever (Post 493256)
I believe there is no such thing as a supernatural thing...

Strange thing to say for "I'mAbeliever". What DO you believe in then? Nothing? How can you prove God does not exist? Please provide EVIDENCE! An argument from incredulity is nothing more than an informal fallacy, which has no place in rational discourse.

True Christians care very much about rational arguments based on evidence and logic, which in turn is squarely based and confirmed by the KJV 1611 Bible.

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Originally Posted by I'mAbeliever (Post 493256)
I believe in facts, for example: the earth is more than 6000 years old.

The earth isn't exactly 6000 years old, no. It can be a bit older. This figure also changes all the time. For example, supposing the earth was exactly 6028 years old in 2009, then it's 6029 years old in 2010 and 6030 years in 2011 and so on.

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Originally Posted by I'mAbeliever (Post 493256)
If you really believe the world is around 6000 years old then I feel sorry for you - but luckily you're a dying race.

That sounds rather hateful. That's the difference between atheists and Christians: an atheists wants you to die and cease existing. When Christians are "hateful", it's because they WANT your eternal soul to live on FOREVER in Heaven.

Atheists hate everyone, even eachother. That's why they can't organize themselves properly. They don't have friends. At best, they have allies.


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