POLL: Who did more to introduce socialism into the US?
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Socialist Crime & Consequence Destruction of Second US Bank The myth the market couldn’t manage itself. Forcing South Carolina to follow the 1828 tariff weakening of state’s rights. Indian Removal: Unconstitutional myth the Federal government has the right to stop a state from exterminating a undesirable minority. Abraham Lincoln Socialist Crime & Consequence Civil War Myth that the states don’t have the right to seize control of the Federal government when Jesus tells them to. Ending Slavery Myth of workers rights preempt property rights Theodore Roosevelt Socialist Crime & Consequence National Parks System Wicca Anti-Trust act Myth that price fixing and artificial shortages are “wrong” Lincoln on the penny defacement of US currency. Herbert Hoover Socialist Crime & Consequence Unemployment Insurance Lazy worthless American workers. Volunteerism Myth altruism is ether good or Christian. Stock Market Regulation Myth that the stock market is not honest. |
Re: POLL: Who did more to introduce socialism into the US?
That's very enlightening, Brother. I had always considered FDR's Raw Deal to be the biggest move towards socialism in the US. However I see now that it was just another step in a much larger trend. Thank God for Ronald Reagan!
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I blame the Clintons. Why isn't that on your poll? :angry:
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There is an element of British influence you may have missed out as well, Thomas Clarkson and William Wilberforce doing large amounts to abolish slavery will have definitely influenced America somewhat. However my knowledge of American history is not that great, some of the people mentioned in the poll probably did more.
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It was John Brown with Negro arming and Harriet Beecher Stone with her seditious book Uncle Tom's Cabin that stir the whole think up by misleading hard working Americans that the slave owners were out to take their jobs. |
Thanks for the summary at the top B-J. I'm not very strong on US history and without your accurate and deft pen guiding my decision, I could have sat there for hours rocking backwards and forwards mumbling to myself trying to work it out.
"Honest" Abe is looking the worst of the lot. Denying somebody's right to wage war on a state and take over because he was following Jesus' Will. Well, I'll be! Theo is looking pretty Leery too. He encouraged Wicca in modern society. Imagine that, I really had no idea. I knew there was something suspicious about a man who bequeathed the "Teddy Bear" to the rest of humanity. |
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Lincoln was the quintessential terrorist/mad dictator.
Started a war for cotton just to have a legacy as a war President. What a scumbag. |
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Just to be known as a war President. You aren't forgetting he was also insane are you? Accepted fact bears that out. Semper Sic Tyrannus |
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Dodger's ignorance probably isn't his own fault. The public school system teaches kids that the so-called civil war was about slavery rather than about economics.
Dodger, the south grew cotton, and the north processed the cotton into fabric. However, the English cotton mills were much more efficient -- so much more efficient that they could pay the southern cotton growers more for cotton than the northern mills could, and they could sell the finished fabric back cheaper than the northern mills could. The southern cotton farmers naturally preferred to deal with the English mills, so the northern mills were having a hard time. Lincoln wanted to put an export duty on raw cotton and an import duty on cotton fabric so the southern cotton farmers would have to deal with the northern cotton mills. THAT'S why the south seceded. Pastor Billy-Reuben |
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An illegal war for cotton.
An unnecessary illegal war for cotton by a man with mental problems. Now, through the power of Northernist propaganda, Lincoln is revered as a peacemaker and is somehow included amongst Americas best Presidents. The man is even on our money! So he starts a war with his own country, illegally, and suspends habeas corpus, runs concentration camps for POWs, sends a General on a death march across the south with orders to level and kill everything, promotes himself as a peaceful man while waging war with the CSA which seceded legally and was a fully functioning nation unto itself with currency, government and army. All we did was kick the Yankee squatters out of Fort Sumter. They were trespassing. Biggest overreaction in US history. |
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Plagiary from this site removed. Dodger, please learn to think for yourself. Copying and pasting from the internet is not an argument. |
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Not to keep harping on the subject, but the Northern Unionists didn't exactly "win" that war either.
Sure Lee surrendered, but that was just to prevent further deaths on both sides and to end the war Lincoln was waging against America. The Union lost thousands upon thousands of more soldiers than the CSA did. We were better shots, better fighters and actually cared about what we were fighting for. As for introducing Socialism into the American mainstream, FDR and his insipid "New Deal" created the modern Welfare State that breeds the likes of the Katrina leeches and the scumbag homeless that plague our cities. The gimmie mentality that is prevalent and used to gain votes by the disgusting Left. The recent stimulus handouts for instance. Obviously done to gather the votes of the lower class and the losers who think $600 is a lot of money for some reason. I bought an original, unused trunk mat for my Road Runner that cost twice that and it was a bargain. Poor people are so stupid. |
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I thought I paraphrased well enough, do you prefer apa citations? In itself, my argument still stands. Also, my piece on General Sherman was of my own from what I've gathered when I studied his tactics.
He had every right to declare war on the South when they seceded from the Union. Even though the south viewed themselves as being discriminated against with the tariff on import/export of cotton, and for a few other reasons. Slavery is still morally wrong. |
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