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Pastor Ezekiel 11-17-2013 04:12 AM

Christianity In The News
 
Beware, Christians. The upcoming Hellywood blockbuster "Noah" is full of lies and blasphemies. Joos probably wrote it. :joo: :glare:

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Russell Crowe’s ‘Noah’ Film – A Warning For Christians

2013 and 2014 will see a large number of Christian-themed movies hit the big screen and one of the most anticipated of them is Noah, directed by Darren Aronofsky and starring Oscar-winner Russell Crowe. While there will be much hype and excitement for this movie, the early reports indicate that the Noah film will not be in line with the Biblical account of Noah’s ark and the flood, but instead will push a liberal, political message focused on the environmental agenda. Christians and those interested in a Biblical story thus need to be warned to use discernment and not support Hollywood as it exploits the Bible for gain and promotes a film that casts the God of the Bible in a bad light.

“Be warned, though: Aronofsky’s Noah might be a bit different from the bearded boat-builder most remember from the Bible. Aronofsky told us back then that he sees Noah as the “first environmentalist,” a man tormented by survivor’s guilt after living through the flood.”

The story of the Flood, as told in Genesis chapter 6-8 deals with humanity’s rebellion against God becoming so great that it threatened any chance of salvation and incurred God’s wrath.

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And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. – Genesis 6:1-6.
In the pre-flood world, a group of rebellious angels or “sons of God” as they are terms in the Bible, interacted with humanity openly on Earth. In doing this, they sinned against God by taking human women as wives and having children with them. These half-angel, half-human hybrid offspring, known as the Nephilim, were giant, super powerful beings who then overran the Earth (these beings have been described in other ancient historical accounts as “demi-gods”, titans and other names, hence them being called “men of renown.:). Soon humanity found itself far from the knowledge of God and steeped in violence, immorality, occultism and sinful rebellion against The Lord. This was the true Biblical backdrop for the world Noah and his family lived in before the flood.

Despite being surrounded by a sinful, lustful society, Noah was still a faithful believer in The Lord. The book of Hebrews called Noah a “preacher of righteousness.” As a result of the Nephilim hybridization taking place, the potential existed for the entire human gene pool to be corrupted by fallen angels. God already judged the first two humans, Adam and Eve for their sin, by banishing them from the Garden of Eden. This initial rebellion brought sin and death into the world. But even back at that time, The Lord, in His mercy, promised Adam and Eve that one day a child would be born who would redeem them and destroy Satan.

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And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. – Genesis 3:14-15.
It was this prophecy that out the Devil on notice that his judgment would come at the hands of a human savior. Eliminating the Messiah became the first order of business in Satan’s war against God. And the illicit relations between fallen angels and human women were a means to prevent a fully human savior from being born. God’s response to this was unexpected – a global flood that would destroy every creature on Earth except for Noah, his family and the animals on the ark. Rather than just acting in pure anger and rage, The Lord used the flood to preserve the human gene pool, punish those sinful angels, eliminate the Nephilim and preserve the chance for the Messiah to be born and for humanity to escape eternal damnation. Thus in the flood account, there is sinful rebellion, an ongoing battle between good and evil, the rewards of the faithful and God’s mercy towards those who believe in Him. None of this has anything to do with environmental movement whatsoever.

Rather than follow the Biblical account, Aronofsky is taking the story in his own direction to suit his own environmentalist agenda. There are many glaring differences between the Biblical narrative and Aronfosky’s version. Even Cain and Abel, the first sons of Adam and Eve, make an appearance and apparently befriend Noah as a child. The danger in this is that it distorts the Biblical message and only leads to further confusion about God and His plan of salvation for humanity. In the movie, God is portrayed as an angry Creator who wants to punish humanity permanently for not taking good enough care of plants and animals. Humans have compassion, while God in the film only has irrational wrath. This type of gnostic interpretation of Scripture that turns the Biblical account upside down to cast the God of the Bible in a bad light, has been done in many Hollywood films (we featured an article on the movie Legion that used this same tactic with a plot centered on the book of Revelation).

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Isaiah 5:20 says: “Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!”
Rather than change the Bible, it should be respected so the real message of God’s forgiveness, grace and mercy can be conveyed.

“Noah is a kind of rural shaman, and vegan hippy-like gatherer of herbs. Noah explains that his family “studies the world,” “healing it as best we can,” like a kind of environmentalist scientist.”

In the Bible, Noah is no Shaman or mage, but a believer and follower of the true and living God of the Bible, Yahweh. When The Lord decided that He was going to judge the world for its rampant sin and punish those angels who sinned, He told Noah:

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And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth. Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch. – Genesis 6:13-14.
God then proceeded to give Noah specific instructions and dimensions for the construction of the ark. What is telling about the heart of Noah was his response to God’s very detailed instructions:

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Thus did Noah; according to all that God commanded him, so did he. – Genesis 6:22.
Rather than seeking the spirit realm, or his “inner knowledge”, Noah heard the Word of God and believed it. This is the sign of faith. So Noah’s spiritual state was clear, he believed the Lord. This is confirmed by the Lord in chapter 7:

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And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation. Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth. For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth. And Noah did according unto all that the LORD commanded him. – Genesis 7:1-5.
God saw Noah’s faith and declared him “righteous before me in this generation.” And with a week before the flood, God gave Noah his final instructions and informed him that it would rain for forty days and nights. This is very significant – up to this point in world history it had never rained. Prior to the flood, the moisture in the environment came from geysers in the ground:

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And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. – Genesis 2:5-6.
A mist from underground pressure provided water for plant life. The pre-flood word in short had a hyperbaric environment.

To hear the judgment would be in the form of a massive rainfalls all over the whole earth would be something no one in the world could fathom. Yet Noah, once again believes God and obeys. The Book of Hebrews explains the importance of faith and cites Noah as an example:

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But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith. — Hebrews 11:6-7.
Rather than seeking God, Aronofsky is using the Bible to push an environmental agenda. This film reflects a lack of faith and promotes the idea of doubting God, rather than believing.

“I don’t think it’s a very religious story,” Aronofsky told us at the 2011 Provincetown International Film Festival, where he was receiving career-spanning honors. “I think it’s a great fable that’s part of so many different religions and spiritual practices. I just think it’s a great story that’s never been on film.”

Here are some of the changes to the Biblical text that Aronofsky’s script makes:

Noah maintains an animal hospital to take care of wounded animals or those who survive the evil “poachers,” of the land. … Be that as it may, Noah is the Mother Teresa of animals.”

Nowhere are we told in Scripture that Noah ran an animal hospital.

Though God has not spoken to men or angels for a long time, Noah is haunted by recurring dreams of a rainstorm and flood that he surmises is God’s judgment on man because as Noah says, “At our hand, all he created is dying.” The trees, the animals, and the environment. “If we change, if we work to save it, perhaps he will too [save us].


In Genesis Chapter 6, it is clear that God is indeed speaking to humanity. The Lord addresses Noah directly and gives specific details about the coming judgment and how to prepare the ark to survive it. Nowhere does Noah have any dreams. Additionally, it is the sinfulness of humanity along with the Nephilim invasion of the Earth that brought God’s judgment, not mistreatment of the environment. And nowhere is it said if humanity helps the tress and animals, God would reverse the impending flood.
According to the Bible, humans are not animals. We are made in the image of God Himself. After creating the first man, The Lord gave Adam dominion over all animals and nature. Jesus Christ confirmed humanity’s superiority to animal’s in God’s eyes to demonstrate God’s love for all people:

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Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows. – Matthew 10:29-32.
God is aware of everything that happens in the lives of animals. But He is much more interested in human beings, His special creation. Jesus illustrates this in beautiful fashion, nothing that God knows the numbers of hairs on the head of every person ever born. And this theme seems removed far from the Noah movie: that God loves us and worked out a plan to reconcile us to Him through Jesus Christ.


Noah seeks advice from his grandfather, Methuselah, the oldest man alive, who lives in a cave. Unfortunately for fighting pacifist Noah, he has to go through the Watcher’s Land to get there. The Watchers are angels who came down from heaven to help fallen humanity by granting them wonders of knowledge from magic to science to stars, metal, and fire. But when mankind turned that knowledge into weapons of war and tools of environmental devastation, God banished the Watchers to earth and turned his back on them. Now, they reside as 18-feet tall, six-armed grumpy angelic complainers who resent mankind.

None of this is ever in the Bible. Noah has no interaction with angels or watchers (angelic beings who are mentioned in the book of Daniel). And while Methuselah is indeed his grandfather, Noah does not seek him out for “advice.” God gave Noah a clear plan of action for salvation for he and his family and Noah faithfully followed it. And while there was indeed open interaction between angelic beings and humans in the pre-flood world, we are not given these details in Noah’s story, nor is there any description of angels matching the script draft.

Noah convinces the Watchers to help him and he receives a magic seed from Methuselah that blooms a magical forest in the desert. It’s really a quite imaginative and powerful scene that shows God’s miraculous provision. Noah uses this timber to build his boat (Wait a second. Wouldn’t that make him an evil clear cutting lumberjack?). So the Watchers help him build the craft.

Once again, these ideas are not from Scripture. Nowhere in Genesis is there ever any hint of a tree shortage or environmental crisis. And the Watchers, who are not even mentioned in the book of Genesis, do not built the ark for Noah.

Meanwhile, Noah has himself become a bit psychotic, like an environmentalist or animal rights activist who concludes that people do not deserve to survive because of what they’ve done to the environment and to animals. Noah deduces that God’s only reason for his family on the boat is to shepherd the animals to safety, “and then mankind disappears. It would be a better world.” He concludes that there will be no more births in this family so that when they start over in the new world, they will eventually die out, leaving the animals in a human-less paradise of eco-harmony and peace. As Noah says, “The creatures of the earth, the world itself, shall be safe.” His ethical reasoning? The same as all environmentalist activists: The ends justify the means. “We must weigh those [human] lives against all creation.”

There’s only one problem. One of the women on the ark is pregnant, and Noah decides that if it is a boy, it can live, but if it is a girl, he must kill it. We can’t have more of those nasty little virus-like humans swarming the earth. So most of the last half of the script is a family killer thriller like Sleeping With the Enemy, that asks the dark dramatic movie question “will Noah kill the child if it is a girl or not?” Ancient sex-selection infanticide.

The woman gives birth to twin girls, and Noah gets all the way up to killing not one but two female infants, after killing evil meat-eating Akkad. But in the end, he fails. He says “to himself, to the Creator,” “I can’t. I can’t do it. I am sorry. I am so sorry.” He is just too compassionate to carry out God’s cruel plan. Noah is more loving than God.


This is the most disturbing part of this script. The idea that Noah would want to kill his own family, is not only never stated in Scripture, it is just blasphemous to the Biblical account. In warning humanity about changing parts of the Bible, Jesus said:

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For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. – Revelation 22:18-19.
This stern warning, in the last chapter of the Bible, underscores how seriously, the correct handling of the Bible is to The Lord. Unfortunately, we live in an age where Jesus Christ, the Bible and the Christian faith can be openly mocked, disrespected and twisted to suit the needs and purposes of the world. What would the reaction be in the Muslim world to a movie that cast Muhammad in a negative light? Well there is no reason to imagine since the trailer of a low-budget film on YouTube caused massive protests, public destruction of property and according to certain officials in the office of President Obama, was part of the reason four Americans were murdered in Libya. Yet when it comes to Christianity, a big-budget major motion picture can be made that completely twists and distorts the Biblical account and portrays the God of the Bible as a cruel, homicidal God who is more concerned with preserving plants and animals over human beings.
By now Lord willing, it’s clear that Noah is not a Christian film. Yet when this movie hits the theaters, it will not stop the film company behind from marketing the movie to churches and the Christian community in hopes of conveying the idea that it is a movie celebrating a Biblical story when it is not. Do not be deceived.

Jesus Christ described the days before His Second Coming with a reference to Noah: But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. (Matthew 24:37). Jesus pointed to the times Noah lived in before the flood as a type and shadow of the last days. And certainly the rampant sin, idolatry and disrespect for God and His Word is on full display in society. A judgment from God is coming on this sinful world. But just like the ark, God has prepared an escape for those who will put their faith and trust in Him: Jesus Christ.

The ark itself was a foreshadow of the protection from eternal judgment that comes from believing in Jesus Christ as the Son of God who died to take the punishment for the sins of the world. Pray for the makers of this movie to repent and believe the Word of God, rather than abusing it. And spread the Word to other Christians to not support such a blasphemous, anti-Christian film. The good news is that for all this disrespect, Darren Aronofsky can still be forgiven of his sins. There is still time for society to get into the ‘ark’ that saves us from hell. It just takes hearing the true Word of God, not a Hollywood distortion.

Pastor Ed Lowman 11-18-2013 03:35 AM

Re: Christianity In The News
 
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While there will be much hype and excitement for this movie, the early reports indicate that the Noah film will not be in line with the Biblical account of Noah’s ark and the flood, but instead will push a liberal, political message focused on the environmental agenda.
Great. Just what the world needs. An "environmentally friendly" Noah picking up trash with one of those sticks the road workers use to pick up trash with on the sides of interstate highways. No floating on waters that cover Mt. Everest, no eloquent Russell Crowe giving speeches to quiet all those many animals inside the ark, just a bunch of eco malarky from joos with a lot of money and influence. Just great.

Mark L. Snyde, PhD 11-18-2013 06:17 AM

Re: Christianity In The News
 
You know, in my bringing of His Word to the misguided atheists in my community, I am often told by these haters of God that the story of Noah's Ark is ridiculous, both from a genetic diversity and logistics viewpoint. These mockers point to many things which someone without faith might find downright foolish.

I must confess, I laugh heartily, and rebuke them saying, "Do you not think The Almighty, who spoke this entire universe into existence some six thousand years ago, is not capable of warping space, so that an Ark can contain as many animals and the necessary supplies as He wishes?" What is enough water to cover all of the mountains compared to an entire universe? What a small feat it is for God to collect and then disperse several million species. What fools I make of them...Praise Jesus!

To me, this most unlikely of miracles is true testament to the awe and wonder of the might of God (Praise HIM!!!), and to have it not be portrayed as given in The Bible is an affront to those of us who know the truth of it...because The Bible tells us it is true. Oh how I pity those who require evidence that will never come. What an empty foul existence theirs must be, not having all the answers.

Why do the movie makers and satanic entertainers want to weaken and bastardize the Bible? Satan has won a battle here, as children watching this movie will miss out on the power of God to do things that just seem downright impossible to the sickular world. :(

But God will win the war, as he casts the evildoers into eternal damnation, and I can't wait for that day! Praise His Holy Name!!! :innocent:

Ezekiel Bathfire 11-19-2013 03:49 PM

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Being a Parent is no easy task, and it is harder when all around you criticize God's Word. There will be unfortunate incidents along the way, but we must continue as instructed:

I quote from this site, which as you will see denies God's Word http://www.examiner.com/article/anot...ain-up-a-child
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Two parents in Washington state have been found guilty of murder after following the abusive parenting techniques advocated in the parenting book "To Train Up a Child" by Michael and Debi Pearl.

Larry and Carri Williams received the maximum prison sentences allowable under the law after being found guilty of beating and starving their adopted daughter Hana to death. The methods they used to "discipline" their daughter were advocated in the controversial Christian book.

The New York Times reported:

Late one night in May this year, the adopted girl, Hana, was found face down, naked and emaciated in the backyard; her death was caused by hypothermia and malnutrition, officials determined. According to the sheriff’s report, the parents had deprived her of food for days at a time and had made her sleep in a cold barn or a closet and shower outside with a hose. And they often whipped her, leaving marks on her legs. The mother had praised the Pearls’ book and given a copy to a friend, the sheriff’s report said. Hana had been beaten the day of her death, the report said, with the 15-inch plastic tube recommended by Mr. Pearl.

Some of the discipline techniques the Pearls teach include:

Using plastic tubing to beat children, since it hurts a lot but leaves fewer marks to alert authorities
Wearing the plastic tubing around the parent's neck as a constant reminder to obey
"Swatting" babies as young as six months old with instruments such as "a 12-inch willowy branch," thinner plastic tubing or a wooden spoon
"Blanket training" babies by hitting them with an instrument if they try to crawl off a blanket on the floor
Beating older children with rulers, paddles, belts and larger tree branches
"Training" children with pain before they even disobey, in order to teach total obedience
Giving cold water baths, putting children outside in cold weather and withholding meals as discipline
Hosing off children who have potty training accidents
Inflicting punishment until a child is "without breath to complain."

Michael Pearl tells one mother on his website, "I could break his anger in two days. He would be too scared to get angry. On the third day he would draw into a quiet shell and obey."

The Pearls and their ministry, No Greater Joy, make an estimated $1.7 million a year.

The couple is the third set of parents to be found guilty of killing their children by following the teachings of the book, which is commonly given out in churches and sent for free to military families. Many other parents have been found guilty of child abuse and torture for following the advice of the Pearls, and it is unknown how many other children's deaths could be tied to the books.

I have written extensively about the Pearls in the past, including:

Another child's death linked to Pearls and "To Train Up a Child"
Michael Pearl writes that he is laughing at his critics after child's death
Child's death leads Christians to speak out against Michael and Debi Pearl

After the death of 7 year-old Lydia Schatz, family friend Paul Mathers wrote on his blog:

"The Schatzes followed, to a "t", a system of child rearing which came from Michael and Debi Pearl... The Pearls are not professionally trained or educated in child development. They came up with this darkness out of the abundance of their hearts... It is one of the most hate-filled, wicked and evil systems I've encountered in my life, all with a sheen of 'Christian' and 'happy families.'"

Mathers told Salon.com:

"I would love to see the people rise up and say no to the Pearls, that this will not stand. I would love to see the Pearl system become anathema, disgusting, and shunned by the world. I would love to see the Pearls out of a job. Before another child dies."

Sadly, this was not the case.
Here is the book:



2Sa:7:14: I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men:

De:21:18: If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
De:21:19: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
De:21:20: And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
De:21:21: And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

Ezekiel Bathfire 11-19-2013 05:45 PM

Re: Christianity In The News
 
In News from the Septic Tank of Europe:

All over the world, the Christian is under pressure from the sins of the flesh. It is easy to see how the voice of God which we all hear sometimes comes through unclearly

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...years-ago.html

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The sordid past of disgraced Co-op bank boss Reverend Paul Flowers was laid bare today after it emerged he has a conviction for gross indecency and quit as a councillor for having pornography on his computer.

The fallen Methodist minister is already being investigated by the police after apparently buying £300 ($450) worth of hard drugs, including crack cocaine and crystal meth.

But it has now been revealed that in the past 30 years he has been involved in a series of sex scandals.


In 1981 he was convicted of gross indecency after he was caught by police performing a sex act with a trucker in a public toilet - but he was forgiven by the church.

Rev Flowers, who is gay, admitted the offence at Fareham Magistrates' Court in Hampshire and was fined £75 with £35 legal costs, yet his church let him continue in his job because he was sorry.

He also resigned as a Labour councillor in Bradford in 2011 after 'inappropriate but not illegal adult content' was found on a computer he used, the city council said today.

A rent boy claimed today that the Methodist also used his Co-op email account to organise drug-fuelled sex sessions while he was still chairman of the bank.

After his gross indecency conviction, Flowers told magistrates he was 'shamed and embarrassed' about the incident, but maintained he was involved 'at the other man's instigation'.

Yet he was allowed to continue as a Methodist minister.

It comes days after the Mail on Sunday revealed Rev Flowers bought hard drugs just after he was grilled by MPs on the Treasury Select Committee over the bank's disastrous performance.
'It was decided he could continue as a minister. It did not preclude him from his activities in the church. He was very contrite, and he continued his work.'
There needs to be more forgiveness. Why can't this simply be brought to a close and Mr Paul Flowers be forgiven yet again?

Bjorn Jensen 11-19-2013 07:20 PM

Re: Christianity In The News
 
Noah was a man of God and not some damn PETA-member :angry:

Genesis 8:20
And Noah builded an altar unto the LORD; and took of every clean beast, and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offerings on the altar.

Alphonse Alban 11-19-2013 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ezekiel Bathfire (Post 1042555)
Being a Parent is no easy task, and it is harder when all around you criticize God's Word. There will be unfortunate incidents along the way, but we must continue as instructed:

I quote from this site, which as you will see denies God's Word http://www.examiner.com/article/anot...ain-up-a-child Here is the book:


We can see the dangers of being too liberal with your kid. God clearly punished this kid by killing him, because he had too liberal cherry picking parents. Let's just take a look at these anti-Christian discipline methods.

Some of the discipline techniques the Pearls teach include:

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Using plastic tubing to beat children, since it hurts a lot but leaves fewer marks to alert authorities
Wearing the plastic tubing around the parent's neck as a constant reminder to obey
"Swatting" babies as young as six months old with instruments such as "a 12-inch willowy branch," thinner plastic tubing or a wooden spoon
"Blanket training" babies by hitting them with an instrument if they try to crawl off a blanket on the floor
Beating older children with rulers, paddles, belts and larger tree branches
"Training" children with pain before they even disobey, in order to teach total obedience
Giving cold water baths, putting children outside in cold weather and withholding meals as discipline
Hosing off children who have potty training accidents
Inflicting punishment until a child is "without breath to complain."

Rulers? Plastic tubing? Belts? Leaving fewer marks!!!???

Jesus clearly says that if we do not use ROD on our kids, we hate them. Also disciplinary actions must leave proper marks if we want to take evil away as intended.

Proverbs 22:15 Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.

Proverbs 13:24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

Proverbs 20:30 The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly.

WWJDnow 11-20-2013 02:29 AM

Re: Christianity In The News
 
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Originally Posted by Alphonse Alban (Post 1042597)
Rulers? Plastic tubing? Belts? Leaving fewer marks!!!???

Jesus clearly says that if we do not use ROD on our kids, we hate them. Also disciplinary actions must leave proper marks if we want to take evil away as intended.

Brother Alphonse, I agree with everything you said, but Christian parents who live outside the Bible belt face a special problem. Because of anti-Christian bigotry, there are all kinds of crazy laws that make teachers and doctors report signs of "child abuse." The liberals would like nothing more than to take our children away from us and raise them to be Democrats in foster homes.

I would say that, if it's absolutely necessary to use a plastic hose instead of a rod, then a Christian parent should do so, and can make up the difference by swatting extra hard or increasing the number of reps. Of course, the best solution in these areas is homeschooling and using a good faith healer instead of a pediatrician.

Wide-Open 11-21-2013 02:19 PM

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More proof God really hates gays with a passion! Even the communist atheist Russians admit it now.


Russian Journalist Says Chelyabinsk Meteor Strike Was Caused By Gay People


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Non-gay person

A Russian TV host warned viewers that the Chelyabinsk meteor strike, which happened back in February, was caused by gay people. Journalist Arkady Mamontov (pictured) said on his program Special Correspondent that the fall of the Chelyabinsk meteorite was punishment against Russia for tolerating LGBT people.

Because when we think of countries that tolerate gay people, Russia is first on our list.

The meteor explosion occurred on February 15 and lit up the morning sky in the city of Chelyabinsk. It resulted in a series of shock waves that damaged thousands of buildings and injured approximately 1,500 civilians.

“This is a warning to us all that we need to preserve our traditions, the family, the traditional love, or not only the Chelyabinsk meteorite will hit us, but something bigger,”

Yay God! :wub:

Attila's Wife 11-22-2013 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ezekiel Bathfire (Post 1042578)
In News from the Septic Tank of Europe:
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There needs to be more forgiveness. Why can't this simply be brought to a close and Mr Paul Flowers be forgiven yet again?

The "Rev." Flowers has now been arrested:

http://www.theguardian.com/business/...-police-arrest

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Paul Flowers, the former chairman of the Co-operative Bank, has been arrested by West Yorkshire police in connection with an investigation into the supply of drugs.


The 63-year-old Methodist minister was arrested late on Thursday evening and taken to a police station in West Yorkshire after he was filmed handing over cash to buy drugs.
I really don't know what to think about this. Can a pastor advise whether or not I should pray for him? I mean, he is a Methodist.

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Ezekiel Bathfire 11-22-2013 11:08 PM

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I think this is the sort of thing that Methodists must do. It is a false religion. It would be useful, nevertheless, to pray for this man's soul.

If I am any judge of human spirituality, I believe that Paul Flowers will have already made a contrite admission of his sins and asked the forgiveness of Jesus. There seems little reason therefore to continue with the police action for Paul Flowers will be born again, and the old Paul Flowers no longer exists.

Johny Joe Hold 11-24-2013 06:15 PM

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How could anyone make a film that portrayed God, and his representative on earth at the time, Noah, as environmentalists?

God and Noah were intent on destroying the environment. It was supporting he people at that time. These people were sinners. God/Noah saw the environment as the "enabler" of Satan.

God had all kinds of choices. He could have sent a disease that wipped out the population, except for Noah and his family, and left the environment in place. Obviously, He thought the environment had to go.

Wide-Open 11-28-2013 03:48 PM

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Baby Dies After Parents Trade Hospital For Church After Crash

MOSCOW, November 25 (RIA Novosti) – A couple in Russia face jail after their religious zeal compelled them to drive their child, injured in a car crash, to church for an urgent baptism rather than to hospital.

The two-month-old infant was dead by the time it was delivered into the hands of the priest, Fontanka.ru news website said Sunday.

The boy sustained a brain injury in a minor crash in St. Petersburg on Saturday despite being in a child safety seat, the report said.

The worried parents sped him up to the church because “otherwise he would be denied the Kingdom of Heaven,” investigators cited them as saying, Fontanka.ru reported.
The baby seat clearly proves they had no trust in Jesus anyway, so God killed the now retarded baby. Glory! :thumbsup:

Attila's Wife 11-28-2013 04:43 PM

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The two-month-old infant was dead by the time it was delivered into the hands of the priest, Fontanka.ru news website said Sunday.
So God didn't want the child baptised. That should tell the parents something about their own so-called church.

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Religious sentiment is on the rise of Russia, where 83 percent of the population described themselves as believers as of 2012, according to pollster Levada. In 1991, that figure was just 24 percent.
Note the use of the term "sentiment" rather than Faith. These Russkies are as heathen as they ever were.

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Attila's Wife 01-12-2014 12:06 PM

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I know it is wrong to laugh, but that fine British newspaper the Daily Mail has now dubbed Paul Flowers the Crystal Methodist.

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Disgraced former Co-op Bank boss Rev Paul Flowers has resumed his depraved lifestyle of drugs and rent boys, despite facing fresh scrutiny by police and City regulators.

Although he promised to seek help, the Methodist minister is still using the horse tranquilliser drug ketamine and booking male prostitutes.
I shall continue to pray for him, as instructed by 1 Timothy 2:1-4, even though he is no longer in authority over the Co-Optional Bank. :pray2:

YiC
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Pim Pendergast 02-11-2014 09:09 AM

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This makes me sick. There's a nudist church in Virginia making a mockery of worship.

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SOUTHAMPTON, VA (WWBT) -
About an hour's drive south of Richmond, there's a small congregation that doesn't care about "material" things. They worship the same way we were all brought into this world, naked.

Even in February, when temperatures can average in the 20s, members show up in various forms: some fully clothed, others topless, many still completely nude.

Pastor Allen Parker says it's not about the clothes, or lack thereof. He says it's about baring his soul to Christ and leading his flock down that path of righteousness, no matter what they're wearing.

Every Sunday in the front few rows of White Tail Chapel, you'll find Katie and Robert Church. Katie wasn't a nudist when they first met, but quickly fell in love with both Robert and the resort. They married at White Tail Chapel and say the church has given them a sense of Christian community with none of the pretense of a traditional church.

"Once we were married, and we were here, this whole place became our family," said Katie Church. "I feel like I can turn to anyone in this church, or even in this park, and they will be there to help me."

"People are more open as far as hearing the word of God, and speaking the word of God," agreed Robert Church.

If you think anyone here finds church attendance titillating, you'd be wrong. They're here to find inner peace and Pastor Parker believes that starts with accepting themselves.

"There's not a feeling that you have to be better than one another, physically," Pastor Parker said. "We're humans, we have scars, we have what we have…it's learning to love and accept that."

Coming before God naked was a capital offence in ancient Israel. The Priests even had to wear underwear beneath their robes.

Ex 28:42-43 And thou shalt make them linen breeches to cover their nakedness; from the loins even unto the thighs they shall reach: and they shall be upon Aaron, and upon his sons, when they come in unto the tabernacle of the congregation, or when they come near unto the altar to minister in the holy place; that they bear not iniquity, and die: it shall be a statute for ever unto him and his seed after him.

Pastor Allen Parker believes in "baring his soul to Christ and leading his flock down that path of righteousness, no matter what they’re wearing.” But he could do that fully clothed. Everything is naked before God.

Heb 4:13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

Godfly 02-11-2014 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny Joe Hold (Post 1043705)
How could anyone make a film that portrayed God, and his representative on earth at the time, Noah, as environmentalists?

God and Noah were intent on destroying the environment. It was supporting he people at that time. These people were sinners. God/Noah saw the environment as the "enabler" of Satan.

God had all kinds of choices. He could have sent a disease that wipped out the population, except for Noah and his family, and left the environment in place. Obviously, He thought the environment had to go.

If the True Story of Noah says anything it says the environment is evil. God destroyed the environment with a flood very quickly. As humans it takes us much longer. We should be looking for ways to destroy the environment faster to save God the work on judgment day.

Pim Pendergast 07-12-2014 11:48 AM

Six-month-old corpse gives birth!
 
An Alaskan woman who has had her existence artificially prolonged on "life support" has given birth.
ANCHORAGE, ALASKA — A baby has been born to an Alaska woman in a coma and listed as clinically brain dead for most of the pregnancy.

KTVA reports (http://is.gd/n85V3Z) that baby Faith was delivered by cesarean section Tuesday.

Her mother, Jessie Ayagalria of Bethel, suffered cardiac arrest in January. Doctors discovered she was 12 weeks pregnant.

She was transferred to an Anchorage hospital, where doctors said she had no brain wave activity. However, a neurologist said it was possible for her to carry the baby.

Ayagalria's mother, Shirley Jerry, says family members agreed to try, and had her daughter put on life support.

Jerry says it was amazing to hold her granddaughter, who was born at 35 weeks. But the birth comes with mixed emotions since Ayagalria has returned to hospice care.

Jerry will care for Faith.
It's against nature, like homosexuality. These "medical miracles" can't hold a candle to the Holy Spirit's work.

ExGay Alex 07-12-2014 06:48 PM

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I agree. If Jesus wanted her to give birth, He wouldn't have put her into that coma.

Pim Pendergast 12-04-2014 10:34 AM

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Stephen Hawking has had the software in his retard mobile upgraded so that it can now supposedly read his mind. Here's what he said in a recent interview

Stephen Hawking warns artificial intelligence could end mankind

Stephen Hawking: "Humans, who are limited by slow biological evolution, couldn't compete and would be superseded"

Prof Stephen Hawking, one of Britain's pre-eminent scientists, has said that efforts to create thinking machines pose a threat to our very existence.

He told the BBC:"The development of full artificial intelligence could spell the end of the human race."

. . .

Prof Hawking says the primitive forms of artificial intelligence developed so far have already proved very useful, but he fears the consequences of creating something that can match or surpass humans.

Stanley Kubrick's film 2001 and its murderous computer HAL encapsulate many people's fears of how AI could pose a threat to human life.

"It would take off on its own, and re-design itself at an ever increasing rate," he said.

"Humans, who are limited by slow biological evolution, couldn't compete, and would be superseded."


There's no such thing as AI. First of all, Stephen Hawking's computer cannot predict what he's going to say next. Other people write his books and speeches. He's just a vegetable, a puppet. He's "had" ALS -- a disease that kills within 3 to 4 years -- for 50 years now.

Second, AI never will be developed. God is the source of all knowledge and wisdom. All the knowledge man has comes from God. A computer will never have intelligence of its own unless God gives it intelligence.

Prov 2:6 For the Lord giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.

Is 28:24-26
24 Doth the plowman plow all day to sow? doth he open and break the clods of his ground?
25 When he hath made plain the face thereof, doth he not cast abroad the fitches, and scatter the cummin, and cast in the principal wheat and the appointed barley and the rie in their place?
26 For his God doth instruct him to discretion, and doth teach him.

Dan 2:21b He giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:

Col 2:2-3 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; in whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.


Third, the world will not end in a robot apocalypse. How paranoid can unbelievers be? It will end in fire.

2 Pet 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.


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