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Michael Hezekiah Esq 03-11-2017 06:18 PM

Wear a Hijab for Solidarity
 
Ladies,
Would you like to show solidarity with the unfortunate women in Arab nations, whose lives are lived in submission to men? Women who are beaten, degraded, and denied basic human rights such as the freedom to drive, vote, and have an opinion that is contrary to their brother, their husband, their uncle, father, or grandfather?


NOW YOU CAN! The terrible plight of these women can be brought to light by all women wearing a hajib for a full week. I know, you are probably thinking that this is contrary to the cause, but it is not. Why?


As you go about your day, going to work, teaching, running construction equipment, being lawyers, doctors, scientists, priests, ministers of whatever faith is yours, you will wear the hijab proudly, showing support for those who both willingly and unwillingly wear this garment that takes away from displaying the natural beauty of all women. For those of you who are fashion conscious, please know that hijab comes in many fabrics and colors. And here is the best part:


MEN CAN TAKE PART, TOO! Yes, women. Tell your husbands to wear a hijab as he tends the farm, goes to the office, etc! I plan to do so and will wear hijab to court, meet with clients, etc. proudly!


If you aren't sure where to purchase one, let me know. I can assist you. A couple of the sisters of your church have volunteered to make them for a nominal fee, also! (Thank you Harsha Shah and the other person who requested to remain anonymous!)

Michael Hezekiah Esq 03-11-2017 06:51 PM

Re: Wear a Hajib for Solidarity
 
I apologize for my error in the title of the original post.
The garment is, of course, a hijab and I did spell it correctly later in the post. My humble apologies to those for whom this garment is precious. I meant no disrespect.

Basilissa 03-11-2017 07:55 PM

Re: Wear a Hajib for Solidarity
 
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Originally Posted by Michael Hezekiah Esq (Post 1206372)
I plan to do so and will wear hijab to court, meet with clients, etc. proudly!

:huh:

But isn't that what you social justice warriors call a cultural appropriation?

Roland 03-11-2017 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Basilissa (Post 1206383)
:huh:

But isn't that what you social justice warriors call a cultural appropriation?

Hello Basillissa,

I am more worried by this phrase: ¨A couple of the sisters of your church have volunteered to make them for a nominal fee, also! (Thank you Harsha Shah)¨

To me it seems unlikely Harsha would volunteer to work in a sweatshop and abandoning the children in her class. I sense a more sinister scheme. By the way, is there any news on the whereabouts of Miss Cookie?

Kind regards,

Roland

Joanna Lytton-Vasey 03-11-2017 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Roland (Post 1206386)
I am more worried by this phrase: ¨A couple of the sisters of your church have volunteered to make them for a nominal fee, also! (Thank you Harsha Shah)¨

To me it seems unlikely Harsha would volunteer to work in a sweatshop and abandoning the children in her class.

It seems extremely unlikely to me that Harsha, misguided though she may be, would agree to make hijabs at all. Is Mr Hezekiah laboring under the misapprehension that all brown people are mooslims? This is frankly racist and unacceptable. :nono:


Harsha may, out of innocence, have agreed to make hajibs, I suppose - whatever hajibs may be? She seems like a kind and obliging woman. Too obliging, perhaps, in this case, in the improbable event that what Mr Hezekiah says is true?

Mrs. Elizabeth Johnson 03-11-2017 09:36 PM

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Well, I wear a hat in church, but why would I want to not look like a Christian lady? If I want to help save those poor Muslim women, I'd give them a Bible not wear a hijab!

Harsha Shah 03-12-2017 06:06 AM

Re: Wear a Hijab for Solidarity
 
Yes, Mr. Hezekiah, I am very sorry if I am offending you but it is not appropriate for me to wear a hijab at school. I am probably offending you, but you must have been misunderstanding what my philosophy is all about. Yes. I am thinking that the story of the blind men and the elephant is a story that is helping people to see that while our initial ideas of a concept are not necessarily wrong, they are biased and inadequate. Yes. I am thinking that you should be reading some Joseph Campbell such as the Masks of God. Behind the masks there is no god but only a striving to a consciousness of yourself and the world. Yes.

I am quoting him. It is from Creative Mythology last chapter. Individualism and spontaneous pluralism - the free association of men and women of like spirit, under protection of a secular, rational state with no pretensions to divinity - are in the modern world the only honest possibility.

He was writing this in 1968. I am seeing this now more clearly as I have been reading the texts of this forum. Yes. The center of mythogenesis is in everyone in this world, just as the center of the universe is in every small volume and it is expanding equally from every spot. Yes.

And to this end the guiding myths can no longer be of any ethnic norms. No sooner learned, these are outdated, out of place, washed away.

Yes. You are seeing a desperate surge of old myths with the hijab, but it is the hijab's last stand. Yes, it is being washed away and the myths that the pupils in my RME class, that is religious and moral education, are following are the Twilight Saga and Totoro and Rogue One and Potter. Yes. I am thinking that you are perhaps looking into the wrong direction for your moksha. The eye of the elephant is everywhere, Mr. Hezekiah, and I am afraid that I must be offending you very badly. Yes.

MitzaLizalor 03-12-2017 11:05 AM

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It is very thoughtful of you to consider the feelings of this chamæleon but I wouldn't worry too much about his mythogenetic centre. It can't be long before he starts reading Michel Foucault. We will hear less about elephants then and with your Joseph Campbell and perhaps Frazer's Golden Bough we might be spared his ravings for quite a while.

You are quite correct to say that behind the masks of animism there is no God. Perhaps the savages who wear them are trying to attain consciousness but that's not how they describe it. Demons infuse their very breath and are co-extensive with every aspect of their culture producing a structureless society. Their concepts are not so much wrong as absent. Jesus is the answer. In Him we find that association you hinted at, all one in Christ Jesus and sharing His Spirit. Soon those beyond our ken, the ones with whom God teaches us not to associate, will be destroyed. If you choose to reject His love Jesus will destroy you. The Bible explains that then you will be tortured. But if you have been selected to accept Redemption from the claws of Satan then you can praise Him with us forever and ever. And then you can praise Him again. To be among that number, accept Jesus today; just contact the senior pastor or the deaconess tomorrow could be too late.

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Originally Posted by Harsha Shah (Post 1206446)
Yes, Mr. Hezekiah, I am very sorry if I am offending you but it is not appropriate for me to wear a hijab at school. I am probably offending you, but you must have been misunderstanding what my philosophy is all about. Yes. I am thinking that the story of the blind men and the elephant is a story that is helping people to see that while our initial ideas of a concept are not necessarily wrong, they are biased and inadequate. Yes. I am thinking that you should be reading some Joseph Campbell such as the Masks of God. Behind the masks there is no god but only a striving to a consciousness of yourself and the world. Yes.

I am quoting him. It is from Creative Mythology last chapter. Individualism and spontaneous pluralism - the free association of men and women of like spirit, under protection of a secular, rational state with no pretensions to divinity - are in the modern world the only honest possibility.

He was writing this in 1968. I am seeing this now more clearly as I have been reading the texts of this forum. Yes. The center of mythogenesis is in everyone in this world, just as the center of the universe is in every small volume and it is expanding equally from every spot. Yes.

And to this end the guiding myths can no longer be of any ethnic norms. No sooner learned, these are outdated, out of place, washed away.

Yes. You are seeing a desperate surge of old myths with the hijab, but it is the hijab's last stand. Yes, it is being washed away and the myths that the pupils in my RME class, that is religious and moral education, are following are the Twilight Saga and Totoro and Rogue One and Potter. Yes. I am thinking that you are perhaps looking into the wrong direction for your moksha. The eye of the elephant is everywhere, Mr. Hezekiah, and I am afraid that I must be offending you very badly. Yes.


Michael Hezekiah Esq 03-12-2017 06:11 PM

Re: Wear a Hijab for Solidarity
 
To All:


Abandon the hijab if you so desire. I have abandoned it.
I have also abandoned Harsha Shah, and will no longer communicate with her. I offer sincere apologies for the embarrassment I caused.


Ladies, I DO encourage you to read the book "Dianetics," and follow your hearts as to what you learn from it. A Scientology center is likely nearby. Have you been audited? If not, I urge you to have this done as soon as possible.

Ezekiel Bathfire 03-12-2017 09:19 PM

Re: Wear a Hijab for Solidarity
 
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Originally Posted by Michael Hezekiah Esq (Post 1206372)
Ladies,
Would you like to show solidarity with the unfortunate women in Arab nations,

Let me get this right... you are not bothered about women in other nations?
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whose lives are lived in submission to men? Women who are beaten, degraded, and denied basic human rights such as the freedom to drive, vote, and have an opinion that is contrary to their brother, their husband, their uncle, father, or grandfather?
When you say "who are degraded" do you mean "who refuse to accept the wise advice of their male guardians?

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NOW YOU CAN! The terrible plight of these women can be brought to light by all women wearing a hijab for a full week.
I spoke to Mrs Bathfire about this. I asked her if I should wear an hijab for a week... she gave me one of those looks that she usually reserves for my more esoteric concepts in biblical philosophy, but I received the impression that she did not think it was a good idea.

What makes you think that my wearing a hijab will do anything but get me arrested?

MitzaLizalor 03-12-2017 09:27 PM

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oh I was going through some material for him too.

Mrs. Elizabeth Johnson 03-12-2017 11:15 PM

Re: Wear a Hijab for Solidarity
 
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Originally Posted by Michael Hezekiah Esq (Post 1206476)
Ladies, I DO encourage you to read the book "Dianetics," and follow your hearts as to what you learn from it. A Scientology center is likely nearby. Have you been audited? If not, I urge you to have this done as soon as possible.

Scientology? That sounds like a messed up version of liberal science and linguistics...maybe that's just me as a woman though. I looked it up online and saw that it wasn't KJV Bible obeying, so I immediately shut it down and prayed that the Lord would forgive my eyes even seeing such Satanic words.


Also, following my heart is a bad idea. "Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him." Proverbs 22:15 As a woman, I know I'm not much very intelligent, so my heart is probably bound to folly. Thus, any folly of mine should be beat out of me, for my own good.


And rebelling from my father (and deceased husband) and trying to be wise myself?! Ha!!! 1 Corinthians 14:34-25 says, "Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.", Ephesians 5:22-24 says, "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing." and Ephesians 6:1 says, "Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right." We are the weaker vessel, as seen with Eve bringing sin into the world so I won't make her mistake and try to be wiser than I am.


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