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Jeb Stuart Thurmond 05-05-2009 07:39 AM

12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned
 
True Christians only touch a Harry Potter book when they are throwing it onto a fire.

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Twelve reasons why:

1. God shows us that witchcraft, sorcery, spells, divination and magic are evil.He hates those practices because they blind us to His loving ways, then turn our hearts to a deceptive quest for self-empowerment and deadly thrills. Harry Potter's world may be real, but the timeless pagan practices it promotes are real and deadly. Well aware that the final result is spiritual bondage and oppression, He warns us:
"There shall not be found among you anyone who... practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. For all who do these things are an abomination to the Lord..." Deuteronomy 18:9-12


2. The movie's foundation in fantasy, not reality, doesn't diminish its power to change beliefs and values...

"But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward." Jeremiah 7:24

3. Each occult image and suggestion prompts the audience to feel more at home in this setting.Children identify with their favorite characters and learn to see wizards and witches from a popular peer perspective rather than from God's perspective. Those who sense that the occult world is evil face a choice: Resist peer pressure or rationalize their imagined participation in Harry's supernatural adventures.
The second choice may quiet the nagging doubts, but rationalizing evil and justifying sin will sear the conscience and shift the child's perception of values from God's perspective to a more "comfortable" cultural adaptation. Even Christian children can easily learn to conform truth to multicultural ideals and turn God's values upside down - just as did God's people in Old Testament days:
"But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward." Jeremiah 7:24

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil;
Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness....
Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes,
And prudent in their own sight!" Isaiah 5:2-21

4. God tells us to "abhor [HATE] what is evil" and "cling to what is good." (Romans 12:9)

5. Immersed in Hogwarts' beliefs and values, children learn to ignore or reinterpret God's truth. They lose their natural aversion for the devious spirits represented by the creatures and symbols in this eerie world. Caught up in the exciting story, they absorb the suggested values and store the fascinating images in their minds -- making the forbidden world of the occult seem more normal than the Kingdom of God.
Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ." Colossians 2:6-9


6. This inner change is usually unconscious, for the occult lessons and impressions tend to bypass rational scrutiny. After all, who will stop, think and weigh the evidence when caught up in such a fast-moving visual adventure?

"Turn away my eyes from looking at worthless things, and revive me in Your way." Psalm 119:37

7. The main product marketed through this movie is a new belief system. This pagan ideology comes complete with trading cards, computer and other wizardly games, clothes and decorations stamped with HP symbols, action figures and cuddly dolls and audio cassettes that could keep the child's minds focused on the occult all day and into night. But in God's eyes, such paraphernalia become little more than lures and doorways to deeper involvement with the occult. In contrast, He calls a person "blessed" who -
  • "walks not in the counsel of the ungodly,
  • nor stands in the path of sinners,
  • nor sits in the seat of the scornful;
"But his delight is in the law of the Lord, and in His law he meditates day and night. Whatever he does shall prosper." Psalm 1:1-3



8. The implied source of power behind Harry's magical feats tend to distort a child's understanding of God. In the movie as in the books, words traditionally used to refer to occult practices become so familiar that children begin to apply the same terms to God and His promised strength. Many learn to see God as a power source that can be manipulated with the right kind of prayers and rituals -- and view his miracles as just another form of magic. They base their understanding of God on their own feelings and wants, not on His revelation of Himself.
"You thought that I was altogether like you; but I will rebuke you...." Psalm 50:21


9. Blind to the true nature of God, children will blend (synthesize) Biblical truth with pagan beliefs and magical practices. In the end, you distort and destroy any remnant of true Christian faith. For our God cannot be molded to match pagan gods.
“For My people have committed two evils:

They have forsaken Me, the fountain of living waters,
And hewn themselves cisterns—broken cisterns that can hold no water." Jeremiah 2:1
10. God tells us to "train up a child in the way He should go." It starts with teaching them God's truths and training them all day long to see reality from His, not the world's perspective. To succeed, we need to shield them from contrary values until they know His Word and have memorized enough Scriptures to be able to recognize and resist deception. Once they have learned to love what God loves and see from His perspective, they will demonstrate their wisdom by choosing to say "no" to Harry Potter.
“And these words which I command you today shall be in your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, when you walk by the way, when you lie down, and when you rise up." Deuteronomy 6:6-7


11. While some argue that Harry and his friends model friendship and integrity, they actually model how to lie and steal and get away with it.Their examples only add to the cultural relativism embraced by most children today who are honest when it doesn't cost anything, but who lie and cheat when it serves their purpose.
"And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased [depraved] mind, to do those things which are not fitting.... They are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them." Romans 1:28-32


12. God has a better way.

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Pastor Ezekiel 05-05-2009 07:50 AM

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned
 
I'll add one more to your list, Brother Jeb. In addition to their promotion of witchcraft, the Harry Potter books also promote HOMERSEXURALITY! It's true! The old hag who wrote the books even admitted it HERE! :furious:

Now I ask you; if the headmaster of their witch school is an old queer, why shouldn't everyone else be a queer too? :o

Won't someone please think of the children!? :(

JennyD 05-05-2009 08:18 PM

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel (Post 321435)
Now I ask you; if the headmaster of their witch school is an old queer, why shouldn't everyone else be a queer too? :o

Won't someone please think of the children!? :(

I bet Dumbledore thought of the children!





Eww, I think I just grossed myself out. :bad:

Bryan Tamariki 05-13-2009 02:26 PM

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned
 
If the reasons above are not sufficient to ban Harry Potter:


:fear2: Harry Potter Books Spark Rise In Satanism Among Children ! :fear2:




July 26, 2000 | Issue 36•25
  • LOCK HAVEN, PA—Ashley Daniels is as close as you can get to your typical 9-year-old American girl. A third-grader at Lock Haven Elementary School, she loves rollerblading, her pet hamsters Benny and Oreo, Britney Spears, and, of course, Harry Potter. Having breezed through the most recent Potter opus in just four days, Ashley is among the millions of children who have made Harry Potter And The Goblet Of Fire the fastest-selling book in publishing history.
Enlarge Image http://www.theonion.com/content/file...er.article.jpg Above: Three young Harry Potter fans in Winter Park, FL, recite an ancient Satanic incantation.

And, like many of her school friends, Ashley was captivated enough by the strange occult doings at the Hogwarts School Of Witchcraft And Wizardry to pursue the Left-Hand Path, determined to become as adept at the black arts as Harry and his pals.
"I used to believe in what they taught us at Sunday School," said Ashley, conjuring up an ancient spell to summon Cerebus, the three-headed hound of hell. "But the Harry Potter books showed me that magic is real, something I can learn and use right now, and that the Bible is nothing but boring lies."
Ashley is hardly the only child rejecting God these days. Weeks after the release of Goblet, the fourth book in J.K. Rowling's blockbuster kid-lit series, interest in witchcraft continues to skyrocket among children. Across America, Satanic temples are filling to the rafters with youngsters clamoring for instruction in summoning and conjuring.
Over protests from Christian Right leaders, who oppose the books for containing magic—and, by extension, Satanic religious beliefs—millions of children are willing their bodies and souls to Lucifer in unholy blood covenants. In 1995, it was estimated that some 100,000 Americans, mostly adults, were involved in devil-worship groups. Today, more than 14 million children alone belong to the Church of Satan, thanks largely to the unassuming boy wizard from 4 Privet Drive.
"The Harry Potter books are cool, 'cause they teach you all about magic and how you can use it to control people and get revenge on your enemies," said Hartland, WI, 10-year-old Craig Nowell, a recent convert to the New Satanic Order Of The Black Circle. "I want to learn the Cruciatus Curse, to make my muggle science teacher suffer for giving me a D."
"Hermione is my favorite, because she's smart and has a kitty," said 6-year-old Jessica Lehman of Easley, SC. "Jesus died because He was weak and stupid."
But as wild as children are about Harry, no one is happier about the phenomenon than old-school Satanists, who were struggling to recruit new members prior to the publication of the first Potter book in 1997.
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"Harry is an absolute godsend to our cause," said High Priest Egan of the First Church Of Satan in Salem, MA. "An organization like ours thrives on new blood—no pun intended—and we've had more applicants than we can handle lately. And, of course, practically all of them are virgins, which is gravy."
With membership in Satanic temples reaching critical mass in some areas, many children have been forced to start their own organizations to worship the Lord Of Lies. Houston 11-year-old Bradley Winters, who purchased Goblet Of Fire with his own allowance money at the stroke of midnight on July 8, organized his own club, Potterites To Destroy Jesus, with his neighborhood pals. An admission fee of $6.66 grants membership to any applicant willing to curse the name of God and have a lightning bolt carved into his or her forehead with an iron dagger.
"The Harry Potter books are awesome!" Winters said. "When I grow up, I'm going to learn Necromancy and summon greater demons to Earth."
It's more than just the kiddie set and Satanists, however, who are rejoicing over Harry's success. Educators nationwide are praising the books for getting children excited about reading.

"It's almost impossible to find a book that can compete with those PlayStation games, but Harry Potter has done it," said Gulfport (MS) Middle School principal Frank Grieg. "I have this one student in the fifth grade who'd never read a book before in his life. Now he's read Sorcerer's Stone, Prisoner Of Azkaban, Chamber Of Secrets, Goblet Of Fire, The Seven Scrolls Of The Black Rose, The Necronomicon, The Satanic Bible, The Origin Of Species—you name it."
Less pleased are Christian leaders, who see Pottermania as a serious threat to their way of life.
"Children are very impressionable," said Dr. Andrea Collins of Focus On Faith, a Denver-based Christian think-tank and advocacy group. "These books do not merely depict one or two uses of magic spells or crystal balls. We're talking about hundreds of occult invocations. The natural, intuitive leap from reading a Harry Potter book to turning against God and worshipping Satan is very easy for a child to make, as the numbers have shown."
"These books are truly magical," Collins added, "and therefore dangerous."
But such protests are falling on largely deaf ears, especially in the case of Harry's creator.
"I think it's absolute rubbish to protest children's books on the grounds that they are luring children to Satan," Rowling told a London Times reporter in a July 17 interview. "People should be praising them for that! These books guide children to an understanding that the weak, idiotic Son Of God is a living hoax who will be humiliated when the rain of fire comes, and will suck the greasy c**k of the Dark Lord while we, his faithful servants, laugh and cavort in victory."

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WickedWitch 05-13-2009 10:14 PM

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan Tamariki (Post 323988)
If the reasons above are not sufficient to ban Harry Potter:


:fear2: Harry Potter Books Spark Rise In Satanism Among Children ! :fear2:
[snip]Ridiculous and comical article[/snip]

Oh my good Gods, you are silly. Are you really taking that article seriously? That was almost the funniest thing I've ever read, and it certainly wasn't meant to be taken seriously! It was meant to be humourous, they made all that stuff up.

Ezekiel Bathfire 05-14-2009 12:33 AM

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned
 
Not a particularly Godly reason for banning it, but I am told that it says in one of the books that Harry Potter's friend is Roland Wheatly - this is complete garbage - apparently this Wheatly character has ginger hair. Who's going to befriend a ginger?:wacko:

WiseAss 05-24-2009 08:42 PM

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned
 
Too bad in "god's favorite country" free speech is a valuable concept.
Therefore you can't ban a book.
No matter how much you don't like it, it's still going to be there.

Tertius The Scribe 05-24-2009 10:12 PM

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WiseAss (Post 327545)
Too bad in "god's favorite country" free speech is a valuable concept.
Therefore you can't ban a book.
No matter how much you don't like it, it's still going to be there.

Not if God wills a book to be gone, unrepentant atheist! Maybe burning a couple of those naughty books you probably have on your shelf like The Principals Of Chemistry or A Brief History Of Time will teach you some respect, boy!

Satan's Advocate 08-15-2009 03:50 PM

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned
 
What the hell are you bloody hipocrites on about.
God says this God says that, did you ever stop to think that
1) the original sin, 'lust and carnal desire' without it there would be NO human race.
2) God is an entity made up by mankind
3) all 7 deadly sins are natural urges of human existance
4) your reading a little to much into the whole harry potter thing.

God does not love you, if he did why does he merclessly take away innocent lives of children?
Why does he not stop all the hurt in the world?
Why does he let bad things happen to 'devot' religious people?

I for one am proud to stand here today and tell you now,
your views on satanism are completly incorrect, we do not sacrifce any one or thing, we believe only in self preservation.

The bible tells you love thy enemy, but does that not put you at the mercy of thine enemy?
Turn the other cheek! Another joke of the church, as they KILL all who oppose them, all throughout history they have anihilated anyone who disagrees with there bogus preachings.

I would also like to point out that all of todays devils and demons were yesterdays GODS.
I am proud to be able to call myself a true SATANIST and do not appreciate this drivle when looking into one of the most successful childrens stories of all time. You people have taken PAGAN and WICCAN traditions as your own 'to keep up with the times'.
Why don't you people actually get a grip on reality and stop worshipping something made up by man, in effect your actually worshipping the man who thought of 'God' as a way of self-denial for his own inadiquacies.

Ofc. Don W. Richards 08-15-2009 04:02 PM

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned
 
I would arrest you if I knew were you lived.

Christiansoldier 08-15-2009 05:04 PM

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned
 
Did you guys know that the actor who plays Harry Potter is atheist?

Ezekiel Bathfire 08-15-2009 05:17 PM

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Satan's Advocate (Post 384071)
What the hell are you bloody hipocrites on about.
God says this God says that, did you ever stop to think that
1) the original sin, 'lust and carnal desire' without it there would be NO human race.

I do believe that procreation can be performed in a Godly and polite manner and without the use of “toys” or “lubricant” and certainly without 4 or 5 others!
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2) God is an entity made up by mankind
Read Genesis – God made man… and then woman.
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3) all 7 deadly sins are natural urges of human existence
which we must overcome by bathing in The Blood of The Lamb.
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4) your reading a little to much into the whole harry potter thing.
Have you read Brother Jeb’s discourse? It is both masterful and scholarly.

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God does not love you, if he did why does he merclessly take away innocent lives of children?
I fail to see your point – The Lord giveth and The Lord taketh away, Blessed be the Name of The Lord.
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Why does he not stop all the hurt in the world?
why should He? Is it not part of His Plan? You seem to think that God is some sort of Welfare Agency, constantly wringing His Perfect Hands. He is not! He has ordered the deaths of millions – men, women and children – that you might lead a Godly Life today. See? His Plan is Good!
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Why does he let bad things happen to 'devot' religious people?
Because he hates people who misspell “devout”. Doh! Obviously they were not sufficiently devout
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I for one am proud to stand here today and tell you now,
your views on satanism are completly incorrect, we do not sacrifce any one or thing, we believe only in self preservation.
What a load of arrant crap. What’s you Lord of Darkness done recently except stroke the pope’s ego? What illnesses has he recently cured? What’s he done about the starving millions? Sir, you are more deluded that I have time to describe.
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The bible tells you love thy enemy, but does that not put you at the mercy of thine enemy?
No. If the enemy attacks, or even thinks of attacking, God smites them with a great smiting!
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Turn the other cheek! Another joke of the church, as they KILL all who oppose them, all throughout history they have anihilated anyone who disagrees with there bogus preachings.
You’re talking about Catlix – they worship satan too.
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[general adolescent navel gazing, ill-thought out ideas and half baked superstition deleted as it was boring].


Your tantrums do not impress either God or me.

Ezekiel Bathfire 08-15-2009 05:21 PM

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Christiansoldier (Post 384105)
Did you guys know that the actor who plays Harry Potter is atheist?

and he's only 5'8", so he's practically a dwarf!

godsdrummer 08-15-2009 05:57 PM

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned
 
Honestly, I've read all seven books. I turned out alright, at least according to most people. I just kinda thought they were fun to read, plus doesn't good over come evil in the end? Like I said, I thought they were fun to read. I know they aren't real, so it didnt effect me. I still love Jesus and God the same, if not more. But then again, I just like to read.

OGRYAN 08-15-2009 08:52 PM

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned
 
so you are all acting this way over a book that is a work of F-I-C-T-I-O-N. get a life cats

Ezekiel Bathfire 08-15-2009 08:57 PM

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OGRYAN (Post 384286)
so you are all acting this way over a book that is a work of F-I-C-T-I-O-N. get a life pussies

Even your corrupted and limited intellect must tell you that there are many books of fiction out there that lead to moral turpitude and the Gates of Hell.

Why do you hate the world that you would subject young children to eternal damnation?

Christiansoldier 08-16-2009 03:52 AM

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by godsdrummer (Post 384159)
Honestly, I've read all seven books. I turned out alright, at least according to most people. I just kinda thought they were fun to read, plus doesn't good over come evil in the end? Like I said, I thought they were fun to read. I know they aren't real, so it didnt effect me. I still love Jesus and God the same, if not more. But then again, I just like to read.

Reading ANY of those books is like begging Satan to come to hell.

Pastor Ezekiel 08-16-2009 04:17 AM

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by godsdrummer (Post 384159)
Honestly, I've read all seven books. I turned out alright, at least according to most people. I just kinda thought they were fun to read, plus doesn't good over come evil in the end? Like I said, I thought they were fun to read. I know they aren't real, so it didnt effect me. I still love Jesus and God the same, if not more. But then again, I just like to read.

And I notice that you are still unsaved, and without a Husband to subjectify you as the Bible commands.

Better rethink your priorities, girl. :rtfm:

godsdrummer 08-16-2009 04:39 AM

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned
 
I have been Saved, granted not by your Church, as I don't exactly live in Iowa. No, I may not be married, as you know, I left my boyfriend because all he wanted was sex, and I wouldn't give it up untill I was married to him. However, Capt. Portway and I have been talking a lot lately.

I'm trying, Pastor, like I said, I just like to read. The Bible has been attached to me ever since one of out last talks, and I've read all the way through Psalms 122.

Grant 08-19-2009 12:46 PM

Re: 12 reasons Harry Potter should be banned
 
I dont think a mentally sane person would start worshipping demon after reading Harry Potter books.

Harry Potter stories are Fiction, not real. Its like if you watch a Superman movie and you jump out of the window thinking you will fly.

Oh, and what about past gods being today demons as that other user said? leviathan, baphomet, lucifer, belial...all were other religion gods that are now Christianity demons. Even the snake form of Satan was a god image in the past.

And i repeat: i dont think that reading a fiction book will make you think you are a with or a sorcerer...


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