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Jedediah 04-11-2012 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by eliot mayfield (Post 344307)
They died because God loves us. The holocaust happened so we would get Israel started again. God had to do this to get things ready for the second coming of Jesus. We were on the right track! George Bush knew God was guiding him. He told other leaders about it:

This is an anointed teaching that all too often gets swept under the rug for the sake of liberal "political correctness." God sent the Holocaust so that the state of Israel may be formed, as He promised in Scripture.

Jeremiah 16:15-16
But, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north, and from all the lands whither he had driven them: and I will bring them again into their land that I gave unto their fathers.
Behold, I will send for many fishers, saith the LORD, and they shall fish them; and after will I send for many hunters, and they shall hunt them from every mountain, and from every hill, and out of the holes of the rocks.


First, God sent the fisherman to Israel. These were the Zionists, men like Theodore Herzl who called for the Jews of Europe and the World to come to Palestine and establish the Jewish state. The Jews were encouraged to escape while there was still time.

Then God sent the hunters. No one could see the horror of the Holocaust coming, but the force and fear of the Nazis drive the Jewish people back to the only home God ever intended for the Jews to have - Israel. And with the establishment of the state of Israel, the wheels have been set in motion as we draw nearer to the End Times.

So really, when you think about it, we should be on our knees thanking God for sending the holocaust, as we should be thanking Him for all things, whether we like them or not.

I Thessalonians 5:18
In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.

Roberta 04-11-2012 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jedediah (Post 869739)
So really, when you think about it, we should be on our knees thanking God for sending ....

Moshe Dayan--he was so hot in those Hathaway shirt commercials.

Guesswork 04-16-2012 05:49 AM

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Holocaust was in god's divine plan. I have you know your all piffleED IN THE HEAD. So you can go *potty mouth* my *potty mouth*. Your children have been raped by me sorry bout that.:innocent: So as i was saying, you guys have no lives, go get a piffleing job you homosexual pifflewits, you can all eat my *potty mouth* with your gay, god loving mouths. I am best friends with satan, so sending me to hell won't make any difference, also, HEAVEN IS NOT REAL. HELL IS NOT REAL. So everyone praise scientology. Xenu is our saviour. YOU piffleING cooter HOLES, YOU CAN GO GIVE EACH OTHER ANAL, HAVE FUN WITH piffleING SICKNESS FROM NOT WIPING YOUR *racial slur against Swedes* HOLES, *phallic idolatry* HEADS, *reference to sodomy* ME OFF.

Thanks for listening. - Lots of Love Your mothers.

Didymus Much 04-16-2012 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Guesswork (Post 872175)
...go get a piffleing job you homosexual pifflewits, you can all eat my ballsack with your gay, god loving mouths...

Hi! You seem to be upset about about something, but with all the Xenu ravings and near-complete incoherence it's hard to determine exactly what's got your panties in such a knot. If you could put down the crack pipe (just for a few minutes) and rephrase your posting in something closer to intelligibility, we'd all appreciate it, thanks.

On a side note, could you please explain to me what's with all the homophobic references? The True Christians™ here follow the Bible, which tells them that God considers homosexuals (and homosexual's friends) to be abominations worthy of painful gruesome death, but in all my reading about Scientology, I've never come across anything like that. So, apart from being a completely ignorant dickhead, why do you hate fags?

Thanks, and have a great day! :D

Guesswork 04-16-2012 06:05 AM

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Cause you like to yiff.

Didymus Much 04-16-2012 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Guesswork (Post 872179)
Cause you like to yiff.

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Psychological projection or projection bias is a psychological defense mechanism where a person subconsciously denies his or her own attributes, thoughts, and emotions, which are then ascribed to the outside world, usually to other people. Thus, projection involves imagining or projecting the belief that others originate those feelings.[1]

Projection reduces anxiety by allowing the expression of the unwanted unconscious impulses or desires without letting the conscious mind recognize them.

An example of this behavior might be blaming another for self failure. The mind may avoid the discomfort of consciously admitting personal faults by keeping those feelings unconscious, and by redirecting libidinal satisfaction by attaching, or "projecting," those same faults onto another person or object...
It's ok, you're among friends here. Tell us what kinds of small furry creatures you dream of sexually violating, and what brands of duct tape you feel are best to keep them from exploding while you pound your inadequate penis into their rapidly cooling sphincters.

Recovery can only begin after you admit you have a problem. :thumbsup:

Thanks, and have a great day! (Just leave your aunt's cats alone, ok?) :D

Guesswork 04-16-2012 06:34 AM

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I can't help it. It's not my fault, they start it. It's all so confusing, next im going to sexually abuse you. I hope you don't mind, just turns me on.

Didymus Much 04-16-2012 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Guesswork (Post 872187)
I can't help it. It's not my fault, they start it. It's all so confusing...

There, now doesn't that feel better?

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...next im going to sexually abuse you. I hope you don't mind, just turns me on.
It's quite all right, in fact I'm used to having people of both sexes fantasize about me. It could due to my chiseled abs and rock-hard physique, or my glorious mane of lustrous and wavy just-on-the-dark-side-of-blond hair, I don't know. We all have our crosses to bear. :innocent:

But this is all getting rather off-topic, so before the moderators get their knickers in a twist, why don't you make your way to Introduction forum and make a thread telling us all about yourself and why you hate Jesus?

Thanks, and have a great day! :D

Remember what I said about the cats, though.

handmaiden 04-16-2012 03:25 PM

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Like it or not, God did allow the Holocaust to happen so that a modern state of Israel could be founded. Afterall, if God absolutely did NOT want any of those terrible things to happen, He could have intervened in a direct, supernatural way.

But He didn't. Instead, He allowed history to play itself out and sat back while Israel came about through the political machinations of man. And now that Israel exists as a nation again, He will soon take action through direct, supernatural means to fullfill all His promises.

Did you know many Orthodox Jews don't fully accept the official existance of Israel's statehood? They seem to think that it doesn't "count" as the real deal because God didn't bring Israel into existance again through direct, supernatural means.

How silly is that?


Seriously Yours,

Handmaiden

Rev. M. Rodimer 04-16-2012 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Didymus Much (Post 872188)
It's quite all right, in fact I'm used to having people of both sexes fantasize about me. It could due to my chiseled abs and rock-hard physique, or my glorious mane of lustrous and wavy just-on-the-dark-side-of-blond hair, I don't know.

It could be the $100 bill you stick to your forehead.

But getting back to the Holocaust, how could anything in this world happen if it is not part of God's Plan?

He is all-knowing and all-powerful. He could easily have prevented the Holocaust.

He did not.

Therefore, He must have wanted it to happen, for His own reasons.

annabethchase 04-17-2012 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Wash O'Hanley (Post 345853)
I sincerely doubt there was any foul play in those concentration camps. How many Jews were rounded up in those things? How many people actually died? If we take into account that the average 7-day cruise ship has at least one death, I don't think it is far-fetched to believe that the 6 million Holocaust deaths were all a result of natural causes and blown out of proportion by the scare tactics and fear mongering of the Liberal Left.

No foul play? Are you stupid? Have you seen Schindler's list, or the Hiding Place? have you learned about it? There is a holocaust museums, and concentration camps that have been preserved. They used gas chambers, crematoriums, they starved them to death, and worked them to death, and buried them alive. They died in transport from being shoved into unsanitary conditions and being brutalized and raped and beaten. 6 MILLION PEOPLE were murdered...there are pictures and real person accounts of the survivors.

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Originally Posted by James Hutchins (Post 345856)
So you are saying it really was not just careless work place safety habits at the German Wonder Bread factories?

If it was a genocide, why didn't the joos simply hide someplace other than the ovens at the factories. I don't know, it just does not seem very smart. You would of thought they would of hidden in their bank vaults with all their stolen money. No fires in there!

It is hard to believe that 6 million were killed, seems like it did not even make a dent.

They TRIED to hide...The Hiding Place is a real account of a woman who attempted to hide them. And they were FORCED into the factories. Most of them didn't have any place to go. This was WWII there wasn't nearly as many banks, and they didn't have vaults. Jews were an accepted art of the community. They were tailors and mechanics and watchmakers.
And yes. 6 million were killed. It seems small since the world's population is about 7 billion! it was about 1/1000 of the poulation killed. That is still a lot. Most of the jews, gypsies, homosexuals, and anyone who disagreed with hitler killed.

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Originally Posted by James Hutchins (Post 345873)
All I know is there was nothing about this in the KJV Bible as the 'holocaust' as you call it occurred after 1611, if it really did. I go by what I hear and read. I guess what I do not understand is what difference it makes. Being none of these joos were True Christians, they were all doomed to Eternal Damnation in Hell anyway, that is for sure. So what difference does a day make?

Of course there is nothing in the bible. The bible is not a history textbook, not recent history anyways. The holocaust happened a long time after the bible was written. It isn't constantly updated, so it wouldn't be in there.

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Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel (Post 345885)
You have to admit, the joos are world famous for being connivers and liars. It just seems like common sense to assume that they made up most of this "holocaust" story to gain a permanent badge of victimhood.

God does work in mysterious ways...:hmmm:

Did they make up the mass graves, and the concentration camps, and hitler's Mein Kamph? Did they edit the photos, and the first hand survivor accounts? there is so much evidence of the Holocaust. It's not just a story.

Rev. M. Rodimer 04-17-2012 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by annabethchase (Post 872518)
Lots of worrying about things having nothing to do with God.

Let's consider the most important point, anna. The Holocaust must have been God's Plan.
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Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer (Post 872379)
But getting back to the Holocaust, how could anything in this world happen if it is not part of God's Plan?

He is all-knowing and all-powerful. He could easily have prevented the Holocaust.

He did not.

Therefore, He must have wanted it to happen, for His own reasons.


Catherine Moore 04-17-2012 12:16 PM

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What I don't understand is this:

The Reverand Rodimer is quite right. Obviously it was God's plan because otherwise it wouldn't have happened, thats pretty much obvious. And I think we can all see why God would have wanted a load of commies, joos, gyppos, nigras and homers to die.

What I simply can't understand is why God's plan included the joos banging on about it for so long. Even now, seventy years later, they're still harping on. Get over it. I know God moves in mysterious ways but I just don't see why He has made the joos so damned tiresome about this whole thing.

After all, you don't see True Christians constantly going on about things that happened ages ago and trying to bring them up in every conversation do you?

loco73 05-05-2012 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by eliot mayfield (Post 344307)
The holocaust happened so we would get Israel started again.


So, with all his allmightyness he was not able to set up Israel without killing millions of his own created 1st stallion - humans. Doesn't really sound all-mighty to me.

Jedediah 05-05-2012 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by logo73 (Post 881855)
So, with all his allmightyness he was not able to set up Israel without killing millions of his own created 1st stallion - humans. Doesn't really sound all-mighty to me.

Sure, he could have. But who are we to question His ways? When we don't understand His ways, we may yet rejoice in His promises.

Isaiah 55:8-9
For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.
For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.


John 3:8
The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Awaiting the End Times! Shout Glory! Hallelujah!

loco73 05-05-2012 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jedediah (Post 881872)
Sure, he could have. But who are we to question His ways? When we don't understand His ways, we may yet rejoice in His promises.


That is the most horrible sentence in the whole forum - even in the whole world. Did you listen, what you said by that? Do you really understand, what that means? What you did with that sentence? You justified all, what you are objecting to so much. Any dictator or murderer can now justify his actions by just claiming, that his acts are so high and so sophisticated and so hard to understand, that others can never question them.
You just contradicted your own high moral standards with that. You dismantled the whole Western moral values with just this sentence. Is that really Christianity, which prefers an such an ideology, an absolute totalitarian mastermind to a democratic system of mutual control?

Noah Sole 05-05-2012 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by logo73 (Post 881964)
That is the most horrible sentence in the whole forum - even in the whole world. Did you listen, what you said by that? Do you really understand, what that means? What you did with that sentence? You justified all, what you are objecting to so much. Any dictator or murderer can now justify his actions by just claiming, that his acts are so high and so sophisticated and so hard to understand, that others can never question them.
You just contradicted your own high moral standards with that. You dismantled the whole Western moral values with just this sentence. Is that really Christianity, which prefers an such an ideology, an absolute totalitarian mastermind to a democratic system of mutual control?

You just don't understand do you? The Bible is the word of God and as such we follow it completely and to the letter. You complain about us but we are just doing what we are told, is there something wrong with that?

YIC

Didymus Much 05-05-2012 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by logo73 (Post 881964)
...Any dictator or murderer can now justify his actions by just claiming, that his acts are so high and so sophisticated and so hard to understand, that others can never question them...

Fallacious strawman argument, due to own inability to read. The passage in question relates to God, not "any dictator".

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...You just contradicted your own high moral standards with that...
What do you know of his moral standards? Have you read the Bible?

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...Is that really Christianity, which prefers an such an ideology, an absolute totalitarian mastermind to a democratic system of mutual control?
Find "democracy" in the Bible. I'll wait.

Nah, I won't. :lol:

Rev. M. Rodimer 05-06-2012 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by logo73 (Post 881964)
Is that really Christianity, which prefers an such an ideology, an absolute totalitarian mastermind to a democratic system of mutual control?

Jesus is King of Kings, not Temporary Elected Leader as Long as Approval Numbers Remain High. :dunce:

He ain't running a democracy. He's in charge. You can walk with Him, or be swept into the furnace.

Pastor Ezekiel 05-06-2012 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by logo73 (Post 881855)
So, with all his allmightyness he was not able to set up Israel without killing millions of his own created 1st stallion - humans. Doesn't really sound all-mighty to me.

You don't understand the Holy Word of God because your father is satan. :rtfm:

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John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.


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